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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 05:05:58
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
That new player is reading the wrong material then. This game isn't hard to start up, its just time consuming but then again what MMO isn't.
"This game is in no way different from any other MMO on the path to max level."

Ok, my bad then.
By volkom 2013-07-13 10:07:27
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Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.
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By fonewear 2013-07-13 10:18:57
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2500 people on Phoenix no shouts worth noting. I would say about 60% is afk. Think of all the events you could do if there was decent content. Just shouted for a 40 million gil hide and seek game and got zero tells. Just to prove a point.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-13 10:50:37
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volkom said: »
Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.
My problem with that is when I played and wanted to do rank missions, I wanted to do them with other people/friends. No friends to play with, no drive. I think that mentality has spread too much over the course of the past few years. Especially since Abyssea release.
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By fonewear 2013-07-13 10:53:21
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volkom said: »
Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.[/q[quote='volkom' pid=2409926]Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.

How are you supposed to craft when you are afk ?
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-07-13 11:17:21
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Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.

Rank 10 San d'Oria, Bastok and Windurst. Captain. Finished ZMs. Finished CoP. Finished ToAU. Finished WotG. SoA missions...okay maybe I'll come back 2 years from now to finish them, hopefully the whole storyline's been implemented by then.

Crafts? Nope. Why? Inventory issues. Not to mention having to hunt for ingredients - whether it's farming for them or camping the AH for them, both equally unattractive options.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 11:22:15
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volkom said: »
Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.
Define achievement.

Getting rank 10 in a nation that doesn't interest someone isn't what he would call an achievement, for example.

Meanwhile, being full Salvage isn't an achievement for this guy who only collects gear that is useful.

FFXI is huge when it comes to do everything, but so much can be skipped now that it's even harder for some people to justify doing it. That's the only thing people already playing this game are complaining about.
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By fonewear 2013-07-13 11:25:40
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So if they implemented a trophy system to FFXI like on PS3. People would all the sudden give a ***about completing VW Salvage etc so they could increase their gamerscore ?
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-07-13 11:28:57
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fonewear said: »
So if they implemented a trophy system to FFXI like on PS3. People would all the sudden give a ***about completing VW Salvage etc so they could increase their gamerscore ?

Some people would. It's not for everyone though. I certainly only half cared about WoW achievements.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-07-13 11:31:25
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To me achievements aren't in order to be ranked into a chart, but they surely motivate me to do certain things that I would otherwise ignore. They create artificial goals when you run out of objectives(like capped gear till next update).
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 12:02:05
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I enjoyed the fact that FFXI allowed so much relevant things to be done that you could set your own objectives. They could take months, years, but you could build your own achievement system, it felt great. It was even better when the achievements included your friends, which was the point of the game until Abyssea died.

There is an actual achievement system for FFXI on 360, most people who would log on it would get full points nowadays, though.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 19:10:42
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Except FFXI still has that. Abyssea is far from dead, you need gear from it for every job still... There are various peices from almost all content that are still relevant. Don't argue the side-grade angle because that has always been what FFXI was (until now) and what people did/do.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 19:12:39
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Kinda funny most of the doomsday prophets liked your post. Do you guys just look for anything negative about FFXI to back it and try to assert some sort of justification for quiting? You know you'll come back lol.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-07-13 19:15:38
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I liked his posts because they were accurate, and I'm never coming back, problem?
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By Cerberus.Dragonslayerone 2013-07-13 19:17:06
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I enjoyed the fact that FFXI allowed so much relevant things to be done that you could set your own objectives. They could take months, years, but you could build your own achievement system, it felt great. It was even better when the achievements included your friends, which was the point of the game until Abyssea died.

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Now everything is irrelevent cept Seekers :(
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 19:32:10
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Cerberus.Dragonslayerone said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I enjoyed the fact that FFXI allowed so much relevant things to be done that you could set your own objectives. They could take months, years, but you could build your own achievement system, it felt great. It was even better when the achievements included your friends, which was the point of the game until Abyssea died.

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Now everything is irrelevent cept Seekers :(

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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 19:32:39
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I liked his posts because they were accurate, and I'm never coming back, problem?

Look out, we got a bad *** over here.
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-07-13 19:45:06
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I liked it because I like the game for similar reasons. I'm not quitting, although I don't really like the progression model for Seekers.
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By Dankdragon 2013-07-13 20:20:30
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Bro don't be a moron. Everybody knows people cheated in nyzul. If you didn't, you didn't get your pixels. So shut up. Stop hating because I did whatever it took to be the best.

And what would separate that attitude from the likes of someone coming to your house, smashing your computer, and saying THAT'S what it took to be the best?

Me. That's what is seperating those 2 scenarios. I'll always be on the winning side. If anybody even touched my computer.... oh man. That poor poor soul.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-07-13 20:26:49
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Seekers gets alot of hate for 'ruining XI' because of the obvious tp/ws/weapon item related offerings for DDs.

SoA doesnt come anywhere close to offering a comprehensive set of options for elemental resist gear/pdt/mdt/regen/refresh pieces in a lot of slots.

Abyssea and Dynamis will forever be relevant for the af3+2/af2+2 aug peices that are JA related.

Anyone that wants to ignore 'useless old content' is just cutting off their situational gear options and another income source since there are peripheral activities tied to those areas that still make gil as well.

If anything, crazy adoulin gear just makes it even easier to solo/lowman Pre-SoA content with more jobs and increased its accessibility to more casuals+new players.
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By Luvbunny1 2013-07-13 22:02:41
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If anything, crazy adoulin gear just makes it even easier to solo/lowman Pre-SoA content with more jobs and increased its accessibility to more casuals+new players.

I totally agree with you on this, BUT one BIG glaring mistake from the developer part. They fail to create a content that is FUN, ADDICTIVE and ACCESSIBLE. SoA gears and weapons will definitely make it easier to "complete" the older content for sure. But the biggest problem is that SoA clears and getting those KI from the NMs are not exactly a fun rewarding activities. Once you got it, you do not want to ever go back and do them again and move on. There is no incentive to redo them, which is a glaring mistake on the developer's part. Apparently they forgot to learn from Abyssea, and yes FF14:ARR. Maybe they will add another "brew item" so that those that were left behind can purchase and get clear and instant win.
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By runeghost 2013-07-13 23:12:36
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Asura.Tamoa said: »
volkom said: »
Its like everyone complains that once you get the top level gear there's nothing left to do. What about ranked missions, completing story lines, maxing out crafts and stuff. Be an achievement hunter, not a loot ***.

Rank 10 San d'Oria, Bastok and Windurst. Captain. Finished ZMs. Finished CoP. Finished ToAU. Finished WotG.
I would also argue that with some of these, if you haven't done them, you -can't- do them now. If you don't have Captain, how many assault shouts have you seen? If you haven't finished a Nyzul climb? If you haven't cleared the new dynamis or whatever - all the things that can't be done solo, but alliances aren't interested in?
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By Kimble2013 2013-07-14 01:27:00
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I always hear the defense of "lol you know you will come back!" yet everyone I used to play with quit and none of them have come back.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-14 01:58:36
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Cerberus.Dragonslayerone said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I enjoyed the fact that FFXI allowed so much relevant things to be done that you could set your own objectives. They could take months, years, but you could build your own achievement system, it felt great. It was even better when the achievements included your friends, which was the point of the game until Abyssea died.

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Now everything is irrelevent cept Seekers :(

WRONG
Wow Starcade, please calm down.

Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Except FFXI still has that. Abyssea is far from dead, you need gear from it for every job still... There are various peices from almost all content that are still relevant. Don't argue the side-grade angle because that has always been what FFXI was (until now) and what people did/do.
I never talked about side-grade, you're just proving with this post how blind you are, you are missing the point by a huge margin.

Who wants to do old content right now? People complain across all servers that they can barely even see shouts for Delve and that older content is even rarer.

Of course I can tri box Abyssea and get the gear I want from it, but a new player isn't going to want that. He's going to shout with most often not the experience required to face the short patience of people who would dare answer his shout. If they do answer his shout.

Get real now. We're not death prophets, none of us is. The game is still alive and will be for a long time. What is dead is the interest in the game, the niche of the game. Both are gone and we're all just waiting for it to come back one day.

Unfortunately, with less and less player, we may reach a point where everything will die before the niche is back. That is the most offensive thing said by people here.

Don't you realize how much of a fool you look with catchphrases like "you'll be back lol", "stop being death prophets omg, mooom!" or "FFXI is like other MMOs, it's still the same as it was back in 2006".

I get your point, I know what you mean, but you sound like you are on drug, seriously. You don't even listen, you just repeat the same blind stuff over and over in every thread to answer anyone and anything said against the game.

You're a Starcade without the threats at this point. Seriously, start using your brain.
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By macsdf1 2013-07-14 03:09:54
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was 1800 on bismark today, 500 of them in morjami doing the bird.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-14 09:25:20
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How about you take your own advice. You all say the same crap as well.
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By fonewear 2013-07-14 09:28:41
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Kinda funny most of the doomsday prophets liked your post. Do you guys just look for anything negative about FFXI to back it and try to assert some sort of justification for quiting? You know you'll come back lol.

You are in the first stage of grief. Denial please move on to the next stage.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-14 09:34:46
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
I didn't read your post, so I'll keep it simple:

Nou.
Ok Draylo, I give up, you are right.
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By Asura.Aerox 2013-07-14 09:47:13
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Kimble2013 said: »
I always hear the defense of "lol you know you will come back!" yet everyone I used to play with quit and none of them have come back.

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Out of the 50 plus ppl that were active on my friend list at 75 cap none of them still play or have done since 90 cap.

Out of the ppl on my FL from abyssea era none still play, the last quitting 1 month into SoA release.

I can't speak for everyone but the game feels socially stagnant at the moment... I literally log in to do salvage2 and build emps as a long term goal of mine with the few like minded friends still active on my FL. Why would people come back when the reasons they quit have not gone away and in some cases gotten worse?

I guess you can argue "addicted to the game, you'll come back" and i was addicted to this game, I havent cared about logging in to do something since they fudged up salvage 2 gear stats. Only stick around for the few real friends left. I'm sure i'm not the only one who feel this way judging by the comments I keep seeing on these forums.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-14 10:06:29
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There are positive comments too, can't always focus on the negative. There are like the same 6 doomsday prophets just constantly shitting up ffxi threads on this forum. They quit the game (some multiple times) and they try to ruin everyone view of the game so they can feel better and justified about quitting. They simply can't leave ffxi topics alone because of this, they must make sure nobody likes the game they don't like!
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