Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Tenshi also used he when talking about my avatar. Thinking my name must not be obvious enough
The Mentally Disabled State Of Texas (Loud And Clear)
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The mentally disabled state of Texas (Loud and clear)
The mentally disabled state of Texas (Loud and clear)
Bismarck.Luces said: »
While he should not have been cleared if they wanted a conviction they should have tried him for 3rd degree/reckless endangerment if they wanted to win. The defense argued that he never intended to shoot the escort just the car she was trying to escape in. As such it can not be considered first or second degree murder by US law. Oh darn my education in Texas taught me something about laws. The fact is the prosecutor thought he had an open and shut case so they didn't prepare which caused them to loose. Sucks for the girl and her family and I agree he should not be let free because recklessly firing a gun like that is illegal in Texas, the prosecutor who tried the case was flat out awful and should loose their bar accreditation for this imo.
Back to the OP topic!? OH NOES!!
Edit: Apparently I don't pay attention when trying to hit that quote button. ; ;
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Lol says who?
I am a texan. I've lived in the southern states all of life until moving abroad. (Unless you don't want to count FL, then only 3/4 of my life)
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Lol says who?
I am a texan. I've lived in the southern states all of life until moving abroad. (Unless you don't want to count FL, then only 3/4 of my life)
Go me. XP
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On a different note, Texas has AMAZING food compared to the rest of the country in my travels. Dallas, Htown, SanAntonio omfg best food
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This thread was about a Woman's murder, and the guys court case.
Now It looks like 2 people going back and forth at it trying to see what states better.
How about this: All states have ups and downs, their ups counter out the downs other states have and downs counter out ups other states have.
Land is land
All states have their idiots.
All court rooms make mistakes.
All threads die, so nobody wins.
Have i covered everything yet?
Now It looks like 2 people going back and forth at it trying to see what states better.
How about this: All states have ups and downs, their ups counter out the downs other states have and downs counter out ups other states have.
Land is land
All states have their idiots.
All court rooms make mistakes.
All threads die, so nobody wins.
Have i covered everything yet?
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
On a different note, Texas has AMAZING food compared to the rest of the country in my travels. Dallas, Htown, SanAntonio omfg best food
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Then hit the switch and turn it back on.
Tenshi doesn't advertise any "documentation" in his statements because it shows that he is like the rest of us. He has fought hard that we "liberal sheep" spew ***we read about and he miraculously comes up with his own ideas, admitting he reads conservative sources and spouts the same ***shows he is a hypocrite (yet again).
As Angry Liberal Scum (trademark pending as of 2013), I have no sense of humor as all jokes are virtually guaranteed to infringe upon the integrity and personhood of the members of some marginalised class and create a divide between a hegemonic privileged class and an outgroup of disenfranchised minorities
It's important to adhere to this as removing all normalization evaluations from the cultural landscape is essential to the grander goal of redistributing all wealth and resources and realizing the divine utopia prophesized by His Holiness Eternal, The Voice of Heaven, The Equalizer Empyrean, Karl Marx.
It's important to adhere to this as removing all normalization evaluations from the cultural landscape is essential to the grander goal of redistributing all wealth and resources and realizing the divine utopia prophesized by His Holiness Eternal, The Voice of Heaven, The Equalizer Empyrean, Karl Marx.
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
As Angry Liberal Scum (trademark pending as of 2013)...
Sounds catchy.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
As Angry Liberal Scum (trademark pending as of 2013), I have no sense of humor as all jokes are virtually guaranteed to infringe upon the integrity and personhood of the members of some marginalised class and create a divide between a hegemonic privileged class and an outgroup of disenfranchised minorities
It's important to adhere to this as removing all normalization evaluations from the cultural landscape is essential to the grander goal of redistributing all wealth and resources and realizing the divine utopia prophesized by His Holiness Eternal, The Voice of Heaven, The Equalizer Empyrean, Karl Marx.
It's important to adhere to this as removing all normalization evaluations from the cultural landscape is essential to the grander goal of redistributing all wealth and resources and realizing the divine utopia prophesized by His Holiness Eternal, The Voice of Heaven, The Equalizer Empyrean, Karl Marx.
HOW DARE YOU REFERENCE RELIGION IN OUR ATHEIST LIBERAL UTOPIA
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How dare you rain blasphemy on the Glory of The Manifesto. Fear not, 'infidel for even the ferocious vitriol of your vile tongue cannot infect His Illuminated Word with even the most dilute of impunties. The Divine Light of Marx shall illuminate the hearts of the wicked, and rend th and rend the darkness of Capitalism, revealing the Truth.
All hail the alrighty Proletariat.
All hail the alrighty Proletariat.
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This thread is still going on?
Why can't we all agree to disagree and get on with out lives and let this insane thread die?
Why can't we all agree to disagree and get on with out lives and let this insane thread die?
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Back up your theory with data. I pointed out that the states with the highest average poverty are in the South. I pointed out that a significant portion of the south receives social security and medicare/medicaid. This points to reliance on the federal government.
Refute me. You have you actually use sources rather than cop out with the "do your own research"
Refute me. You have you actually use sources rather than cop out with the "do your own research"
2012 Election by county:
High % Democrat voting blocs:
Food stamp usage by county:
Welfare by county:
Murder by county (matches others indicating other violent crimes):
So yes, the South has some problems with poverty and crime, but guess where it is concentrated? That's right! With the Democrats, just like in California and New York and DC and Philly and Chicago and... need I go on? So this is why taking an average and attributing it to a state is misleading, and that is how I refuted you.
And whoever still maintains that whatever I said about secession amounts to advocating secession, you need to learn what "advocate" means and how to properly use it in a sentence.
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Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »
First of all, the idea that conservatives/red states are not more self-reliant than liberals/blue states is almost absurd enough to a blanket dismissal of anything else that person has to say, but since you are interested in facts only as long as they agree with you, here is the truth behind the red states (meaning conservatives) being the ones reliant on the government:
First, this is an unemployment map not a welfare map. This is stated on the title and in the image address.
Here is a government benefits map from 2009 compared to your Republican county voting map. Along with your food stamp map. You posted a census map from 2000 on Hispanics as your "High % Democrat voting blocs" but, whatever, it is also below so that you can compare.
From looking at the government benefits map and comparing it to the "Democrats" and "Republicans", I would still say, yes the South uses a lot of welfare and it is both Democrats and Republicans who do so.
Welfare is social security, medicaid, medicare, income support, veterans benefits, unemployment insurance, food stamps, etc. There are a lot of government sponsored welfare programs. Implying that only democrats use it is crap.
This murder map is kind of odd because it is "percent of population affected by murders per county". So if your county has a low population and a few murders, your county is going to be more affected. So I put in a population density map so you could compare.
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So yes, the South has some problems with poverty and crime, but guess where it is concentrated? That's right! With the Democrats, just like in California and New York and DC and Philly and Chicago and... need I go on? So this is why taking an average and attributing it to a state is misleading, and that is how I refuted you.
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »
The South has oil, agriculture, and tourism. It is not all that reliant on the federal government, and in many ways is inhibited by it. There are segments that can't wipe their rear ends without the government holding their free hand, but that doesn't speak to the South as a whole, and generally speaking,Southern people are more independent and self-reliant than the average American.
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Why are "Black" and "Hispanic" overlaid on Tenshi's map?
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Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »
Enuyasha said: »
-Walmart pays minimum wage (In some cases above), but has forced all its full-time employees out and brought in a flood of part time employees with no benefits. Walmart is also the closest thing to a legal monopoly and performs as such.
A monopoly for services and products sold in their local areas. When Walmart moves in they instantly lower their prices and force local business out. Then, they increase their prices to comparable as the businesses that were forced to leave.The pull to PT hiring was not anything the government did but it was a pull from Waltons kids after he died. They'v made a numerous amount of changes to Walmart as a whole since they inherited it. And i've talked to actual FT employees before they got pushed out,they were being worked to death in places they were not hired to be in as pressure by the company to leave.
And by the way, I know you may have to front for the guys here on the forum, but you and I are both from the New Orleans area, and you know the Welfare Queen is no myth.
I know there are abusers of the welfare system, but i dont know of anyone gaining solely by leeching from the welfare system. Section 8 was (and in certain parts still is) bad, but the ones with the high six or more figure salaries and still live under welfare are the abusers, and they are not in high quantity. These people are also earning this money through illegal activity. Yes, it is not a myth, but it is not as rampant as most would like to believe.
Enuyasha said: »
-a job is a job, saying that they do not do physical labor (not even breaking a sweat or a nail!?) so they shouldn't *** is being lazy in itself and not recognizing the issue.
I know people that work hard in "low skill" areas. I also know Nurses (High Skill) that work 16+ hours. The reference to "Slave Labor" is literally what happened in the factories and mills in the 19th century before regulations. I was not saying that we have slave labor today but that people want us to move more towards it by deregulating.
Enuyasha said: »
-You also describe people as items to be bought,which is not true. An employee can name any wage they feel their skillsets and abilities in that particular field are valued at as long as it is okay with the employer and as long as it is above minimum wage.
Absurd number. You can apply for any reasonable job and write in your salary, there is no flat rate for how to pay a technician compared to how you pay a server. There are bases for pay though, but they are not viewed as the "market value" for your new
Enuyasha said: »
-If people think jobs are beneath them we wouldnt have trashmen or postal delivery people. The problem is finding jobs not the qualities of the positions.
How do you put figures on "Some" and "Many"."lots" of the population are looking at a very "low" hiring situation atm across all professions. There are of course "last resort" jobs that people are perfetly wiling to do, but why pay for your education as a lawyer and instead work in a Mcdonolds or as a bus driver.That is, if that is indeed the problem.
Enuyasha said: »
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
There are good and bad laws, good and bad regulations. What are moderate regulations to one person are crippling regulations to others. Hell, if we took Tenshis advice we'd scale things back to the days of Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller.
Its only a straw man because you know its right. These politicians and corporate heads only want those laws stripped so they can force $.1 an hour,lax safety procedures,lax product safety standards,and lax waste disposal to save themselves money at the cost of nothing for themselves. This is not propaganda,this is not rhetoric, this is the facts of rampant capitalism in the good ole black and white of whatever chapter in your middle school history book the industrial revolution,minimum wage,the robber barons,and anything related to the 19th century is about.
That is what you are advocating for with deregulation. As well as lower wages,max hours,human parts in food,toxic landscapes, and a huge increase in structure/hazard/fire related deaths. Regulations are there to combat rampant capitalism and its hazardous effects on the American society.
I still want to know what BHlaicspknic means.
silly sylow that obviously is an ethnic group Biasplanic (biased black hispanic?)
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Blaspanic: Black Hispanics. That's how I read it anyways.
I don't always dabble in Facts,
But when I do, I ignore them all.
I don't always dabble in Facts,
But when I do, I ignore them all.
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Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »
So yes, the South has some problems with poverty and crime, but guess where it is concentrated? That's right! With the Democrats, just like in California and New York and DC and Philly and Chicago and... need I go on? So this is why taking an average and attributing it to a state is misleading, and that is how I refuted you.
Nice gerrymandering to prove a point; "well, if you split it up like so, it's totally the democrats fault!!!"
Infuriates me, and ***, and I'm not even a democrat!
Even if it was a democrat problem, you're forgetting one teensy, tiny thing: that's still, you know, The South; you can't preach on one hand "The south doesn't have this problem!" and then say "Look, the South has this problem, because of those dastardly democrats!"
Also, NY is objectively better than this nebulous South; we have snow days and good food of every culture, as well as all the cool businesses! :)*
* Playfully stating this only.
Besides Tenshibaby, I don't believe anyone is blaming the democrats for the world's problem.
That is like blaming Bush for everythin.....oh wai...
Either way, it is not the politics of a single party that is the problem, it is the mentality of a group of people that is the problem.
But that is for another conversation, since that is not the topic or subtopic of this thread.
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That is like blaming Bush for everythin.....oh wai...
Either way, it is not the politics of a single party that is the problem, it is the mentality of a group of people that is the problem.
But that is for another conversation, since that is not the topic or subtopic of this thread.
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So we've reached the point in the conversation where this has turned into Liberals v. Conservatives. That's great, this'll be a locked thread soon.
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