[Dev] Delve Updates, Holding Times & Bosses

the hell good thing i got all ki's >.<

5/6 on KI's and I haven't seen a "weakness" exploited yet.

I hope this leads to better sharing of information.

It gives me a headache that they think this happens even in JP groups.

Just...holy ***. I'm just at a complete loss for words to describe this.

Every time i hear Zerg i always think of toy story 2

I want to know how they decided on twenty minutes to begin with...at least I know they didn't use NNI's RNG to get 20, but other than that... everything else in this game is 15/30/45/60 so 20 is the new 30?

But let's run with that...so
1. take mob that flips out in 20 minutes.
2. take 5 different kinds of mob in #1
3. The chance at a chance to possibly eliminate up to 3 of these mobs by outside shard fight.
4. kill 2-5 of these mobs, any fodder en route, and kill megaboss all within 45 minutes, using effective/optimal/bold new strategies.
5. Get shiney new gears.
6. REPEAT
OR/AND
7. Invite players that can't win to help them win.

Whatever SE was smoking on 4/29 apparently was not good enough and they upgraded to something more potent. Or we are all terrible players and should have already plowed through delve content in a week. Even assuming you killed like all the nms in like 5 minutes each that would still only leave you maybe 10-15 to kill the boss at best?

Sign me up for charity delve runs to help challenged players. I'm probably one of them o_O

Honestly, when you have the "quirks" figured out, NMs just melt in 10-12 minutes with a decent zerg setup, a few even without delve weapons.

There's no reason you need over 20 minutes for any of these NMs really once you figure everything out.

I'm betting even traditional setups will succeed with the right tactics while exploiting their quirks.

Oh, this solution is so easy, though. Just make bead drops 100% when someone without the KI gets it.

We kited a turtle around a rock, running behind it to SATA WS and there was a point were it stomped 10 people dead! *** old-school

Skirmish, so much potential, wasted before people barely got to say potential.

DELVE ALL THE TIMES

how about give it a 45 min Rage timer and have 3 Pop spaces?

cause seriously, I enjoy it as it is now, the zerg crap is getting so old

They've already said "no" to more pop spots.

I like this solution; they did the same thing in Abyssea. However, -now-, they're concerned about lag.

Wouldn't increasing the drop rate on beads actually HELP more players get the KI's? If the bead drop rates were 100%, you would probably see people shouting "3 field NM + Fracture run, Do you need it?". Once you get the KI from the field NM, the only real reason to repeat these is the beads (or the very small chance to save a bit of plasm I guess). But since the drop rates are so low, and only 1/18 people can get the bead, it will be hard to convince 17 other people to join unless they can be guaranteed a spot in your fracture run (whenever you manage to actually get 2 other beads). Or they could actually have the bead free lot, but the drop is bad enough as it is, so I don't really see people wanting to do that.

I think I hit a weakness on crab tonight

iirc when we did Crab if you time your WSs/hits/magic between his TP hits, they do a ton of damage. Like trying to proc Ironclads in Abyssea.

That was a fun run.

I was finally able to play PLD the way I used to enjoy playing it (tanked peiste and chapuli the other night) and it gets taken away from me AGAIN? Thanks SE, you never stop amazing me with how much you kill the fun factor. Long fights are a BLAST and the whole group loved it...

Some people just love to watch the world burn.

About time they did this having to wait on another group to beat a nm sucks did Tax'et yesterday had to wait about 45mins on something that should have taken 15mins and then 30mins+ on Tutewehiwehi when the party had it at 58% when we go there. If you cant beat it within the time limit then your doing it wrong, Probably not doing BRD/COR rotations.

JP Onry

SE just love their zerg event's don't they.

And why is it that NM`s that can be killed in under 3mins, proc'd indefinitely and give endless temp items (voidwatch) have a 30min time limit, but these much harder NM`s are capped at 20mins?

People can always buy up wins. I see a lot of pick up groups and they get wins and some don't even have REMs seen a few DRKs with str GS and doing 3k+ reso but idk what the average is. If all else fells bust out WHM SCH or COR and I am sure you can get a spot.

If they gave NMs more than one ??? then you would have 15 total ??? in a zone so then you would have to find which is for which NM, Do we have to do a Reive to get to it, Are there people already at this one, And which ??? has a better advantage over the others? Any mobs going to be around the pop site if no then everyone would want that one so people can AoE without the need of outside Aggro.
EDIT Oh and if you need outside mobs for TP your doing it wrong.

So tired of not being able to seperate the scrubs from the skilled till its to late ;/

I think you're on to something.

Pretty much this although I would argue that COR rotations are almost never worth the trouble

Of course I could be biased since rolling gives me panic attacks and I spend most of my time on COR dreading that wear off message

Bleh cor rotations.

Cors are not brds D:

War retired for a bit, lol. Group popped turtle before we could, won't have chance to do it before maintenance now lol

They finaly made someting fun in this game again, but i guess they need to werck it again. SHAME ON SE !!!