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Setup for Lunge
Lakshmi.Saevel
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-03-28 08:40:19
We now know the formula for Lunge.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Lunge
Code Damage = ( Main-hand weapon Skill × (0.5 + Number of Runes × 0.25) ) × Number of Runes × Magic Multiplier Terms
Skill * 1.25 * 3.0 * MAB/MDB
Skill forms the base damage with the runes acting as a multiplier and the final value appears to follow MAB/MDB rules. There isn't any dSTAT term nor any other stat that effects it. Also it's subject to resists like other magic abilities are.
So what sets would be the best for damage then? Lots of MAB for sure.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-28 08:55:41
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Something like this, couldn't find anything for waist and back.
Ragnarok.Taereon
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By Ragnarok.Taereon 2013-03-28 12:25:32
Yay a reason to bring out my Denali Kecks (don't judge me)
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Valefor.Sapphire
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-03-28 12:32:14
Does this not have resist issues, noone tried on a vw target/adl/etc yet?
Wondering if macc is ever relevant for this.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-03-28 12:40:29
Lunges can resist, so it is relevant on some level.
By kenshynofshiva 2013-03-28 12:44:57
Anyone test the effect /run???
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-28 13:32:40
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Something like this, couldn't find anything for waist and back. Answering myself, probably sea obis.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-03-28 13:44:06
Does Lunge have one element? Can it be composed of multiple Runes?
By Enuyasha 2013-03-28 13:51:55
Does Lunge have one element? Can it be composed of multiple Runes? think its element varies by the runes you choose. Anyway, mine doesnt work when i use it...dunno why :(
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-03-28 13:53:53
The answer is Spellcast.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-28 13:58:17
I think it only uses the element of the last rune you put on.
Phoenix.Esvedium
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By Phoenix.Esvedium 2013-03-28 14:00:05
Code <if spell="Lunge">
<command>input /raw /ja Lunge <t></command>
<equip when="precast" set="Lunge" />
<cancelspell />
</if>
Not sure if that'll work, but might get around Spellcast not letting you lunge. Is there an alias built into spellcast for Sudden Lunge (//lunge) that it's trying to fire off, like how on BST if you use fantod, it tries to cast the BLU spell?
By Enuyasha 2013-03-28 14:00:48
By kenshynofshiva 2013-03-28 14:16:10
Can Lunge Magic Burst?
Ragnarok.Kanryu
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2013-03-28 22:40:05
Lunge appears to be three separate hits.
If you overkill an enemy it does not consume all 3 runes. It only consumes 2.
Lakshmi.Zyaan
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By Lakshmi.Zyaan 2013-03-29 08:17:22
For some reason, Lunge doesn't even work for me. :(
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-03-29 08:23:39
Lunge appears to be three separate hits.
If you overkill an enemy it does not consume all 3 runes. It only consumes 2.
See! You asians are good at math! If you use it at super low hp, does it only use 1?
By kenshynofshiva 2013-03-29 08:28:56
For some reason, Lunge doesn't even work for me. :(
spellcast?
if so add
Quote: <if spell="Lunge">
<cancelspell />
<command>sc set Lunge; wait .2; input /raw /ja Lunge <t></command>
</if>
Lakshmi.Zyaan
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By Lakshmi.Zyaan 2013-03-29 08:31:29
Lakshmi.Zyaan said: »
For some reason, Lunge doesn't even work for me. :(
spellcast?
if so add
Quote:
<if spell="Lunge">
<cancelspell />
<command>sc set Lunge; wait .2; input /raw /ja Lunge <t></command>
</if>
Ahhhh Thanks!
By darthmaull 2013-03-29 08:52:43
Yes it can MB. I had a RUN in my party yesterday that did.
By kenshynofshiva 2013-03-29 09:25:46
Need to break out my blu/run and see if I can have some fun lol.
Asura.Baroma
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By Asura.Baroma 2013-03-29 18:00:47
Wonder if the ToM ice path (MAB) GS would be worth it for Lunge
Trial 3272 is final one for it. not sure what the MAB is. im guessing 11.
Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2013-03-29 18:00:56
For everyone out there without Tessera (or Nimue's tights), don't forget that RUN's on Teal. MAB+4 body and MAB+3/MAcc+3 legs (same as Denali) for practically nothing.
By Eijii 2013-03-29 21:16:34
Nevermind
Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-03-29 21:35:04
Wonder if the ToM ice path (MAB) GS would be worth it for Lunge
Trial 3272 is final one for it. not sure what the MAB is. im guessing 11.
Ehhh, it wouldn't be a good idea to focus too much on an ability that can only be used once every 3 minutes.
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-03-29 21:36:11
Mirke Wadecors and Desultor Tassets both have MAB/MACC +4 available on them too.
Bismarck.Kyaaadaa
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By Bismarck.Kyaaadaa 2013-04-09 09:49:04
Wonder if the ToM ice path (MAB) GS would be worth it for Lunge
Trial 3272 is final one for it. not sure what the MAB is. im guessing 11.
Ehhh, it wouldn't be a good idea to focus too much on an ability that can only be used once every 3 minutes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but RUN isn't on the ToM GSs.
Leviathan.Kincard
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-04-09 09:50:58
It's on the elemental and weaponskill paths but not the NM ones (Saladbowl/OAT/etc). If you were going to make one it'd be the STR one though.
Bismarck.Kyaaadaa
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By Bismarck.Kyaaadaa 2013-04-09 10:13:22
Aha, ya I only have Fulgurante, and didn't see RUN on it so assumed it got left off the others. Smart move for SE though, RUN already gets all the THF/BLU multi-attack gear, giving it ToM OaX weapon also would just be... well happy for us.
We now know the formula for Lunge.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Lunge
Code Damage = ( Main-hand weapon Skill × (0.5 + Number of Runes × 0.25) ) × Number of Runes × Magic Multiplier Terms
Skill * 1.25 * 3.0 * MAB/MDB
Skill forms the base damage with the runes acting as a multiplier and the final value appears to follow MAB/MDB rules. There isn't any dSTAT term nor any other stat that effects it. Also it's subject to resists like other magic abilities are.
So what sets would be the best for damage then? Lots of MAB for sure.
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