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Mythic Weapons
Valefor.Sirerick
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By Valefor.Sirerick 2013-03-21 19:14:42
So I've stopped playing the game almost 2 years ago now and am considering coming back. I've been told getting mythics and relics are relatively easy now and can be completed quickly.
So just how easy is it to complete a mythic and how small of a group can you do it with?
Same question for relics.
I'm really much much more interested in a mythic (polearm) and would love to come back and make one.
Bahamut.Genevie
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-03-21 19:17:48
relatively easy? lol
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By Odin.Sheelay 2013-03-21 19:22:35
Mythics aren't all that easy to complete. You still need to stack Nyzul tokens, Ein ampoules, complete Assaults x 2, defeat the 3 ToAU Beastmen Kings (one of which has a glitched spawn time) and other random stuff, but more importantly, you still need to save up 30k Alexandrite, which at a price ranging around 11k on Odin means you need to shell out 330M Gil.
Salvage is easy these days, so if you found a team of 1-2 friends to go with you could farm some Alex daily while purchasing more from bazaars. It's still quite a grind if you can't find a reasonable way to make Gil.
Relics are far more easy and can be done completely solo by running in Dynamis every day and saving up the currency you need for each stage. If you are done with certain coins you can even start selling them and make some bucks out of your runs. For instance, Dynamis is one of the easiest ways to make Gil for a standard player.
Valefor.Esdain
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By Valefor.Esdain 2013-03-21 19:28:54
Empy < Relic < Mythic in that order on difficulty to obtain.
Empy just require killing the same NM over and over.
Relic just requires daily entrance into dynamis to farm. Popular jobs to farm on are BST, THF, BLU, & DNC. If you're diligent about setting aside two hours a day for it, it's possible to complete one solo in about 2 months or so.
Mythic still require all assaults and beastmen leaders of ToAU as well. Some people farm their alexandrite, but others do the above daily relic currency farming and just sell it in order to buy alex out of bazaars. You'll need at least 2 others to enter (unless you dual/triple box) and I'm not sure on time, but it is certainly relative to how well you do on assaults as you'll need daily tags for that. Quickest I could see would be like 3 months probably if you worked hard at it.
Valefor.Sirerick
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By Valefor.Sirerick 2013-03-21 19:31:11
hmm i see. thanks for all the clarification. Guess ill just stick with relic then haha.
Is there a better zone to farm solo than others?
Bismarck.Jonadriel
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By Bismarck.Jonadriel 2013-03-21 19:33:04
Empy < Relic < Mythic in that order on difficulty to obtain.
Empy just require killing the same NM over and over.
Relic just requires daily entrance into dynamis to farm. Popular jobs to farm on are BST, THF, BLU, & DNC. If you're diligent about setting aside two hours a day for it, it's possible to complete one solo in about 2 months or so.
Mythic still require all assaults and beastmen leaders of ToAU as well. Some people farm their alexandrite, but others do the above daily relic currency farming and just sell it in order to buy alex out of bazaars. You'll need at least 2 others to enter (unless you dual/triple box) and I'm not sure on time, but it is certainly relative to how well you do on assaults as you'll need daily tags for that. Quickest I could see would be like 3 months probably if you worked hard at it.
Na, 3 months is too little if starting from scratch. U need to do 50 assaults x2, wich is one daily cause of tags wich makes it only on the a assault 100 days. That's not even counting u need tags to get Tokens from nyzul too.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-03-21 19:36:05
hmm i see. thanks for all the clarification. Guess ill just stick with relic then haha.
Is there a better zone to farm solo than others?
Yes, there is.
Then again, it depends on you, your jobs, when you'll go (competition wise) and what weapon you're making. Might even vary by server. Really, if there was one zone that was "better" than all the others, that would probably become the worst zone, due to 1000 bsts running around in it all the time. On the other hand, one of my very best solo runs was in Tav, where almost no one goes (it's tiny, so if you're not alone, it's terribad.)
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By Odin.Sheelay 2013-03-21 19:36:49
hmm i see. thanks for all the clarification. Guess ill just stick with relic then haha.
Is there a better zone to farm solo than others?
An empty dreamland zone will usually do. If zones get overrun by players then it's hell IG, so it's usually best to check which of Dyna-Valk/Qufim/Bubu (or even Tav if it's completely empty) has less people before entering.
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Shiva.Gib
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By Shiva.Gib 2013-03-21 19:41:10
Mythics were never really 'Difficult' to get, it's just a time sink like no other time sink in the game.
30,000 is ALOT, and that's only 1 step of many
Ragnarok.Eriina
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2013-03-21 19:49:57
Alex is becoming readily available in the market thanks to salvage2. If you have unlimited money, you could purchase all Alex relatively quickly. Of course this was always the case at 75 cap as well, cheaper then in fact. If you have 300-450mil sitting around, or a means to aquire it quickly, this stage would be quick.
If you don't have that kinda cash you are looking at farming. If you have 3 accounts you can farm salvage1 everyday easily. I've found SSR to be the most consistent averaging 75-80 Alex per run from 4 cotton purses and 35ish singles. This doesn't count linen sack which only drop once in a blue moon.
If you don't have 3 account you need to convince 2 other friends to go with you and give you all the Alex, ^^; But that opens up the option for salvage2. Doing ZR2 I think we get at least 100-110 on a full clear? Sometimes there are extra cottons, sometimes there's a double linen, sometimes the HQ hydra is a total jerk and we wipe and stare at he screen shocked. Those three scenarios are all low% and pretty much average out.
Perhaps a better option is to forego salvage altogether and farm dynamis > sell currency > purchase Alex.
Either way, unless you are getting a serious Gil influx from sources other than these, you are looking at a 200-400 day commitment if you farm only ONE of these sources every single day. Cut that in half if you do dynamis (averaging 250ish coins per run) AND salvage every single day. Cut down the time table further if you have huge, regular influxes of Gil from going hard on VW or some profitable craft. ADD to the time table if you're like me and just don't feel like logging in for a day sometimes.
Nyzul points are the same system as before, perhaps can gain more per run compared to 75 due to our lvl cap increase if you have a friend start you on floor 95.
Repeating all assaults is the same, easier to win at current lvl cap. Still get 1 ticket per day and can hold up to 5 if captain rank already.
Completing Einherjar is MUCH easier now that you can enter once a day and do not require any KI to enter wing 3 fights. 1900 point per T3 win = 53 days if you go every day.
It's very dependent on how many of these points you already have, and whether you have an LS behind you that can crank out millions of gil or not.
tl;dr
I think nyzul and assaults take about as long as they ever did. Alex is about the same with adjusted prices, Einherjar is 3x faster.
Valefor.Liemray
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By Valefor.Liemray 2013-03-21 20:01:52
Sirerick, now that's not a name I've seen in quite some time lol. How ya been?! But yeah, as someone had stated it's not really "difficult" unless you're counting time spent. Empyreans going to be the easiest can finish those in a matter of days. Relics that depends if you're just doing dynamis for currency, buying, or doing both 2~3 months maybe? Mythics I can't say cause I've not started one yet ; ~ ; but hope to soon.
Valefor.Sirerick
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By Valefor.Sirerick 2013-03-21 20:05:10
Liem! whats good son?
Ok now how difficult is it to install the game on a macbook without bootcamp? lol
Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2013-03-21 20:12:18
ToAU beastman kings are a significant hurdle for mythics weapons. You can literally spend weeks getting your kills (especially Gulool Ja Ja).
But once you get past that initial hurdle, you'll find that the rest of the objectives are very low-man friendly. I was getting just under 5k tokens per run duoing Nyzul with a mule at the rune. Einherjar can now be done daily at a low cost and you can reliable farm with just a party. All assaults involving combat are now ridiculously easy, although certain non-combat ones can still screw you.
As for alexandrite, the prices are low and the number of people doing Salvage is significant. However, this will likely change in the near future. New SoA content will pull peoples' attention away from Salvage. And fewer linens will come from Nyzul as fewer people hit floor 100 due to Embrava nerf. A lot of people will still continue to do Salvage and you can very easily work out a fair arrangement within a small group to lot alexandrite while others lot plans.
If you do decide to do a mythic, it would be best to find a group of like-minded people who can bang out the non-alexandrite parts with you. It'll make your life a lot easier. Also, and I can't stress this enough, get a second or even third account. You can use it in Einherjar (to hoard ampoules to buy feathers with), Salvage (2-box heal or to d/c you in), or Nyzul (stay at lamp). It'll make your life easier.
By Solrain 2013-03-21 20:14:44
I've been told getting mythics and relics are relatively easy now and can be completed quickly.
Mythics are the new Relics that were the new Empyrians that were the old Relics, basically.
Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-03-21 20:24:58
It's like this, see:
Relic: ~100mil for the base stage (it's reasonable to farm the currency yourself over a 2-3 month period), lax other requirements
a series of magian trials
+~50mil for the final stage (this cost can be circumvented if your LS or you are capable and actually will farm marrows yourself)
Empyrean: Trials for base stage, + 50/50/75 Abyssea drops. (Can be bought from mercs, although mercs are rare lately)
+~150-200mil for (1500+60 items) upgrades to 99, it's not really reasonable to farm the volume yourself
Mythic: ~300mil in Alex for base stage, time consuming additional requirements (100k ichor, captain, 50 assaults, kings, chariots, odin, 150k tokens) - theoretically you can farm the alex yourself but it would be extremely protracted
a series of magian trials
+ ~30m in items for the final stage (you can circumvent this cost if you can farm these yourself)
Fenrir.Tormant
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By Fenrir.Tormant 2013-03-24 09:51:47
Mythics are the hardest to get. But they are not 'hard' they are just mega time consuming and mega gil consuming.
Relics are easier then ever. Since they nerfed dynamis and people can solo it everyday now, currency price is down. Plus if you go out there and farm yourself, you can plow through one.
Emperians are the easiest. Cost no gil, they just require some time and effort. "Go kill this nm and get 50 of his 1-2 drop items" If you get a few buddies, you can plow through these in a day or two. At least to the 85 version. However, getting a emp to 99 is very gil consuming. 1500 heavy metal plates is one stage, those range from 60-90k each per server. Then some require riftdross's which are over a mil each....
Overall nothing is 'hard' its just a matter of how much time do you want to sink.
Carbuncle.Shokox
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2013-03-25 08:22:54
Don't do Mythic, it's a trap.
So I've stopped playing the game almost 2 years ago now and am considering coming back. I've been told getting mythics and relics are relatively easy now and can be completed quickly.
So just how easy is it to complete a mythic and how small of a group can you do it with?
Same question for relics.
I'm really much much more interested in a mythic (polearm) and would love to come back and make one.
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