Anyway, to be clear, I don't want guns banned, I want licensing programs and shared accountability.
I think that's "fair."
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Anyway, to be clear, I don't want guns banned, I want licensing programs and shared accountability.
I think that's "fair." Shiva.Arana said: » volkom said: » @arana i don't jump into anyone's ***. just proving a point which you agreed to. Some guns have a higher killing potential (if you consider the rate of fire of the weapon and the kind of rounds and the range of said weapon) but that doesn't disregard that guns in general kill. like your previous posts of radical weapons. Imo civilians shouldn't be allowed to carry handgrenades, explosives, and rpgs. But that doesn't stop someone from making homemade versions. There are situations in which a weapon is more preferred over others. volkom said: » Shiva.Arana said: » volkom said: » @arana i don't jump into anyone's ***. just proving a point which you agreed to. Some guns have a higher killing potential (if you consider the rate of fire of the weapon and the kind of rounds and the range of said weapon) but that doesn't disregard that guns in general kill. like your previous posts of radical weapons. Imo civilians shouldn't be allowed to carry handgrenades, explosives, and rpgs. But that doesn't stop someone from making homemade versions. There are situations in which a weapon is more preferred over others. Shiva.Arana said: » volkom said: » Shiva.Arana said: » volkom said: » @arana i don't jump into anyone's ***. just proving a point which you agreed to. Some guns have a higher killing potential (if you consider the rate of fire of the weapon and the kind of rounds and the range of said weapon) but that doesn't disregard that guns in general kill. like your previous posts of radical weapons. Imo civilians shouldn't be allowed to carry handgrenades, explosives, and rpgs. But that doesn't stop someone from making homemade versions. There are situations in which a weapon is more preferred over others. If you're stupid enough to put your self in a clock tower vs a crowded area with a machine gun then yea sure.
/sigh
Its like...if I want to kill people from a long distance, the best weapon I can use to achieve this is some scoped rifle. If i want to go into a school and murder people then i'd want to bring along a sub machine gun like a mac10/mp5 and handguns or better yet just get a bunch of home made nail bombs and toss them in every class room I walk by. If i want to mow people down like in call of duty mw2 airport level~ then sure why not i'll use a m60. for home defense I'd want a shotgun ~ point is, there are situations where one gun trumps the other. They all have a stupid amount of lethal potential but saying a gun is more radical than the other because you give an example of where 1 gun is way more proficient at killing than another is kinda lame. Ugh... Look what they wanna pass in NYS, Already passed their senate.
7 Round Magazine Limit (How many guns have only 7 rounds besides a 1911? Even the M1A is banned (8 rounds).) S 265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree when: (1) Such person commits the crime of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree as defined in subdivision one, two, three or five of section 265.01, and has been previously convicted of any crime; or (2) Such person possesses any explosive or incendiary bomb, bombshell, firearm silencer, machine-gun or any other firearm or weapon simulating a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use; or (3) Such person knowingly possesses a machine-gun, firearm, rifle or shotgun which has been defaced for the purpose of concealment or prevention of the detection of a crime or misrepresenting the identity of such machine-gun, firearm, rifle or shotgun; or (5) (i) Such person possesses three or more firearms; or (ii) such person possesses a firearm and has been previously convicted of a felony or a class A misdemeanor defined in this chapter within the five years immediately preceding the commission of the offense and such possession did not take place in the person's home or place of business; or (6) Such person knowingly possesses any disguised gun It's kind of a stealth attack like they tried passing in IL. So if I lived in new york state, I'd be a felon because I have a 38 revolver, an M&P40 Semi, and Ruger 10/22. This is what they mean by common sense. If I'm reading this right that is. This is the kind of ***Bloomberg/Feinstein want to push on our federal government. Bloomberg doesn't control state law.
Cerberus.Eugene said: » Bloomberg doesn't control state law. That is true, but it doesn't mean he won't try. Look at Chicago's influence in Illinois. Rahm likes to think he runs the state, I'm sure Bloomberg's ego is the same way. He probably has some kind of influence in the bills being written and the politicians. By the way.. It just passed in New York State.. you can get tenerite
you can make home made incendiary bomb you can make home made silencer. as per 7 round limit. All i can think of atm is revolvers and a desert eagle. volkom said: » you can get tenerite you can make home made incendiary bomb you can make home made silencer. as per 7 round limit. All i can think of atm is revolvers and a desert eagle. 1911 Revolvers 50AE Deagle (50AE Will probably be made illegal... <_<) The owning 3 or more guns thing as a felony though.. christ.. Fenrir.Skarwind said: » volkom said: » you can get tenerite you can make home made incendiary bomb you can make home made silencer. as per 7 round limit. All i can think of atm is revolvers and a desert eagle. 1911 Revolvers 50AE Deagle (Will probably be made illegal... <_<) The owning 3 or more guns thing as a felony though.. christ.. thank god i live in texas lol~ edit: correct me if i'm wrong, but it doesn't ban rifles? volkom said: » Fenrir.Skarwind said: » volkom said: » you can get tenerite you can make home made incendiary bomb you can make home made silencer. as per 7 round limit. All i can think of atm is revolvers and a desert eagle. 1911 Revolvers 50AE Deagle (Will probably be made illegal... <_<) The owning 3 or more guns thing as a felony though.. christ.. thank god i live in texas lol~ How is it down there? I need to start applying for police departments. I'm considering it but my girl is kind of terrified of giant spiders. I was considering Missouri, Kansas, or Oklahoma. The reason I want to be in tornado alley is because I'd like to start storm chasing as a vacation hobby. Also it's kind of beautiful in those areas in it's own way. Fenrir.Skarwind said: » So if I lived in new york state, I'd be a felon because I have a 38 revolver, an M&P40 Semi, and Ruger 10/22. This is what they mean by common sense. If I'm reading this right that is. Quote: New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state. link Cerberus.Eugene said: » Fenrir.Skarwind said: » So if I lived in new york state, I'd be a felon because I have a 38 revolver, an M&P40 Semi, and Ruger 10/22. This is what they mean by common sense. If I'm reading this right that is. Quote: New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state. link I'm looking at the Bill, it has grandfathering but states that owning 3 or more has some consequences. Even so it's kind of BS you would be limited in such a manner. Quote: (5) (i) Such person possesses three or more firearms; or (ii) such person possesses a firearm and has been previously convicted of a felony or a class A misdemeanor defined in this chapter within the five years immediately preceding the commission of the offense and such possession did not take place in the person's home or place of business; or I don't think the gun limit exempts grandfathered firearms. Fenrir.Skarwind said: » volkom said: » Fenrir.Skarwind said: » volkom said: » you can get tenerite you can make home made incendiary bomb you can make home made silencer. as per 7 round limit. All i can think of atm is revolvers and a desert eagle. 1911 Revolvers 50AE Deagle (Will probably be made illegal... <_<) The owning 3 or more guns thing as a felony though.. christ.. thank god i live in texas lol~ How is it down there? I need to start applying for police departments. I'm considering it but my girl is kind of terrified of giant spiders. I was considering Missouri, Kansas, or Oklahoma. The reason I want to be in tornado alley is because I'd like to start storm chasing as a vacation hobby. Also it's kind of beautiful in those areas in it's own way. Texas is pretty good. Don't get many tornadoes if ever that touch land here in ATX. Up in dallas and west texas they are more common when its that time of the season but again not really. Not sure what you're income is. But wanting to be a police officer, I'd say go for austin or dallas. Probably not as life threatening (looking from a civilian point of view). There was an officer here that died recently. First in like 7 or 8 years though. As for guns. my friend's gunshop is crazy busy all day every day. gun purchases are stupidly high You don't need an arsenal in the Northeast. 3 is perhaps excessively limiting, but I didn't write the law.
Cerberus.Eugene said: » You don't need an arsenal in the Northeast. 3 is perhaps excessively limiting, but I didn't write the law. Sounds like they just decided on a random number and people were like. They can have a gun for show, a gun for home defense and another for sport. wait... does northeastern states have a castle law? Cerberus.Eugene said: » You don't need an arsenal in the Northeast. 3 is perhaps excessively limiting, but I didn't write the law. I'm not talking about arsenals. Say a person liked to collect WW2 Rifles, Revolvers, or even pea shooters like Derringers. Regardless of action or caliber a felony would be a felony. This law is flawed in my opinion. volkom said: » wait... does northeastern states have a castle law? New York does not. volkom said: » Ok so like ~ if a person breaks into my home and I shoot him then I can go to prison? The odds are you wont be doing time but it comes down to ***being situational. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » volkom said: » Ok so like ~ if a person breaks into my home and I shoot him then I can go to prison? The odds are you wont be doing time but it comes down to ***being situational. like if i shot him in the back or if i shot to torture kind of thing? ugh~ why do some laws seem soo screwed up to me :| How often do break-ins occur around you?
Ah apparently this is the bill that passed.
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld&bn=A02388&term=2013&Summary=Y&Text=Y Quote: 36 S 37. Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as added by 37 chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows: 38 22. "Assault weapon" means [(a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an 39 ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the 40 following characteristics: 41 (i) a folding or telescoping stock; 42 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of 43 the weapon; 44 (iii) a bayonet mount; 45 (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a 46 flash suppressor; 47 (v) a grenade launcher; or 48 (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following 49 characteristics: 50 (i) a folding or telescoping stock; 51 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of 52 the weapon; 53 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; 54 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or 55 (c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable 56 magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: S. 2230 18 A. 2388 1 (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the 2 pistol grip; 3 (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash 4 suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; 5 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encir- 6 cles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with 7 the nontrigger hand without being burned; 8 (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is 9 unloaded; 10 (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; 11 or 12 (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such 13 weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known 14 as: 15 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all 16 models); 17 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; 18 (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); 19 (iv) Colt AR-15; 20 (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; 21 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; 22 (vii) Steyr AUG; 23 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and 24 (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street 25 Sweeper and Striker 12; 26 (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, 27 shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or 28 slide action; (B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (C) is an 29 antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); 30 (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine 31 that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; 32 (iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds 33 of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine; 34 (iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof, 35 specified in Appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was 36 manufactured on October first, nineteen hundred ninety-three. The mere 37 fact that a weapon is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to 38 mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or 39 (v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic 40 pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this subdivi- 41 sion lawfully possessed prior to September fourteenth, nineteen hundred 42 ninety-four.] 43 (A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE 44 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: 45 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 46 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF 47 THE WEAPON; 48 (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 49 (IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 50 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 51 (V) A BAYONET MOUNT; 52 (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED 53 BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR 54 MUZZLE COMPENSATOR; 55 (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR S. 2230 19 A. 2388 1 (B) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING 2 CHARACTERISTICS: 3 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 4 (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 5 (III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 6 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 7 (IV) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF SEVEN ROUNDS; 8 (V) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR 9 (C) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE 10 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: 11 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 12 (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 13 (III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 14 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 15 (IV) CAPACITY TO ACCEPT AN AMMUNITION MAGAZINE THAT ATTACHES TO THE 16 PISTOL OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL GRIP; 17 (V) A THREADED BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH 18 SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER; 19 (VI) A SHROUD THAT IS ATTACHED TO, OR PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY ENCIR- 20 CLES, THE BARREL AND THAT PERMITS THE SHOOTER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH 21 THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED; 22 (VII) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN THE PISTOL IS 23 UNLOADED; OR 24 (VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION OF AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR 25 FIREARM; 26 (D) A REVOLVING CYLINDER SHOTGUN; 27 (E) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC 28 PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN SUBPARAGRAPH (V) OF PARAGRAPH (E) OF SUBDI- 29 VISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER AS ADDED BY CHAPTER 30 ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY-NINE OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND AND OTHERWISE 31 LAWFULLY POSSESSED PURSUANT TO SUCH CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND 32 PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER FOURTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR; 33 (F) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC 34 PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (A), (B) OR (C) OF THIS SUBDIVI- 35 SION, POSSESSED PRIOR TO THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THE CHAPTER OF THE 36 LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH; 37 (G) PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE: 38 (I) ANY RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL THAT (A) IS MANUALLY OPERATED BY 39 BOLT, PUMP, LEVER OR SLIDE ACTION; (B) HAS BEEN RENDERED PERMANENTLY 40 INOPERABLE; OR (C) IS AN ANTIQUE FIREARM AS DEFINED IN 18 U.S.C. 41 921(A)(16); 42 (II) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE 43 THAT HOLDS MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; 44 (III) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT CANNOT HOLD MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS 45 OF AMMUNITION IN A FIXED OR DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR 46 (IV) A RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL, OR A REPLICA OR A DUPLICATE THEREOF, 47 SPECIFIED IN APPENDIX A TO 18 U.S.C. 922 AS SUCH WEAPON WAS MANUFACTURED 48 ON OCTOBER FIRST, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-THREE. THE MERE FACT THAT A 49 WEAPON IS NOT LISTED IN APPENDIX A SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO MEAN THAT 50 SUCH WEAPON IS AN ASSAULT WEAPON; 51 (V) ANY WEAPON VALIDLY REGISTERED PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF 52 SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER. SUCH WEAPONS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE 53 PROVISIONS OF PARAGRAPH (H) OF THIS SUBDIVISION; 54 (VI) ANY FIREARM, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN THAT WAS MANUFACTURED AT LEAST 55 FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, BUT NOT INCLUDING REPLICAS THERE- S. 2230 20 A. 2388 1 OF THAT IS VALIDLY REGISTERED PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF 2 SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER; 3 (H) ANY WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (E) OR (F) OF THIS SUBDIVISION AND 4 ANY LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE THAT WAS LEGALLY POSSESSED 5 BY AN INDIVIDUAL PRIOR TO THE ENACTMENT OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 6 TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH, MAY ONLY BE SOLD TO, 7 EXCHANGED WITH OR DISPOSED OF TO A PURCHASER AUTHORIZED TO POSSESS SUCH 8 WEAPONS OR TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY OUTSIDE OF THE STATE PROVIDED THAT 9 ANY SUCH TRANSFER TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY OUTSIDE OF THE STATE MUST 10 BE REPORTED TO THE ENTITY WHEREIN THE WEAPON IS REGISTERED WITHIN SEVEN- 11 TY-TWO HOURS OF SUCH TRANSFER. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO TRANSFERS ANY SUCH 12 WEAPON OR LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION DEVICE TO AN INDIVIDUAL INSIDE NEW 13 YORK STATE OR WITHOUT COMPLYING WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS PARAGRAPH 14 SHALL BE GUILTY OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR UNLESS SUCH LARGE CAPACITY 15 AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, THE POSSESSION OF WHICH IS MADE ILLEGAL BY 16 THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARA- 17 GRAPH, IS TRANSFERRED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAP- 18 TER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH. 19 S 38. Subdivision 23 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as added by 20 chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows: 21 23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, 22 drum, feed strip, or similar device, [manufactured after September thir- 23 teenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four,] that (A) has a capacity of, or 24 that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten 25 rounds of ammunition, OR (B) CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI- 26 TION, OR (C) IS OBTAINED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE 27 LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION AND HAS A 28 CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT, 29 MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; provided, however, that such term 30 does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and 31 capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition OR A 32 FEEDING DEVICE THAT IS A CURIO OR RELIC. A FEEDING DEVICE THAT IS A 33 CURIO OR RELIC IS DEFINED AS A DEVICE THAT (I) WAS MANUFACTURED AT LEAST 34 FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, (II) IS ONLY CAPABLE OF BEING 35 USED EXCLUSIVELY IN A FIREARM, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN THAT WAS MANUFACTURED 36 AT LEAST FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, BUT NOT INCLUDING REPLI- 37 CAS THEREOF, (III) IS POSSESSED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NOT PROHIBITED 38 BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW FROM POSSESSING A FIREARM AND (IV) IS REGISTERED 39 WITH THE DIVISION OF STATE POLICE PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF 40 SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER, EXCEPT SUCH FEEDING DEVICES TRANSFERRED 41 INTO THE STATE MAY BE REGISTERED AT ANY TIME, PROVIDED THEY ARE REGIS- 42 TERED WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF THEIR TRANSFER INTO THE STATE. NOTWITH- 43 STANDING PARAGRAPH (H) OF SUBDIVISION TWENTY-TWO OF THIS SECTION, SUCH 44 FEEDING DEVICES MAY BE TRANSFERRED PROVIDED THAT SUCH TRANSFER SHALL BE 45 SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 400.03 OF THIS CHAPTER INCLUDING 46 THE CHECK REQUIRED TO BE CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO SUCH SECTION. 47 S 39. Section 265.00 of the penal law is amended by adding a new 48 subdivision 24 to read as follows: 49 24. "SELLER OF AMMUNITION" MEANS ANY PERSON, FIRM, PARTNERSHIP, CORPO- 50 RATION OR COMPANY WHO ENGAGES IN THE BUSINESS OF PURCHASING, SELLING OR 51 KEEPING AMMUNITION. 52 S 40. Section 265.01 of the penal law, as added by chapter 1041 of the 53 laws of 1974, subdivision 1 as amended by chapter 257 of the laws of 54 2008, subdivision 2 as amended by chapter 220 of the laws of 1988, 55 subdivision 3 as amended by chapter 199 of the laws of 2006, subdivision 56 4 as amended by chapter 357 of the laws of 2011, subdivision 7 as added S. 2230 21 A. 2388 Still sucktastic. There goes most fire-arms. I believe it even includes tube fed fire-arms over 5 rounds. The magazine restrictions we discussed are in place. But not the felony for X amount of firearms (yet) I did want to say many bans are on evil features that do nothing to enhance the lethality of the fire-arm. How is the ability to accept a bayonet an AW feature? Can anyone think of the last murder by bayoneting we have had? Cerberus.Eugene said: » How often do break-ins occur around you? in my section of the out city limits ~ not really. petty robberies and break in's into cars happen occasionally. Downtown ATX and in the city limits. pretty regularly. I'd say 1 or 2 every week (that I know based on news) especially around UT volkom said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » volkom said: » Ok so like ~ if a person breaks into my home and I shoot him then I can go to prison? The odds are you wont be doing time but it comes down to ***being situational. like if i shot him in the back or if i shot to torture kind of thing? ugh~ why do some laws seem soo screwed up to me :| I believe shooting a home invader in the back does not count as self defense. IL has something similar to a castle law. I think it depends on the state honestly. Shooting to torture isn't protected under any law. Once the person is incapacitated you have no grounds for self defense.
Fenrir.Skarwind said: » I believe shooting a home invader in the back does not count as self defense. IL has something similar to a castle law. I think it depends on the state honestly. volkom said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » volkom said: » Ok so like ~ if a person breaks into my home and I shoot him then I can go to prison? The odds are you wont be doing time but it comes down to ***being situational. like if i shot him in the back or if i shot to torture kind of thing? ugh~ why do some laws seem soo screwed up to me :| Based on my limited knowledge if they conclude that you had the ability to diffuse the situation without utilizing deadly force or simply shot just for the hell of it, a case could be made against you. Obviously any self-respecting lawyer could counter this with a self-defense position coupled with potential background information on the perpetrator. I think it's universal amongst most people that if someone breaks into your house and you retaliate with deadly force to protect yourself/your family that you aren't guilty of a crime but YMMV, ***is situational and frankly laws like the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground don't really do much to change that bottom line other than spell it out and give the NRA an avenue to sell more guns. |
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