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By SimonSes 2021-01-13 14:14:10
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Heghmoh said: »
I compared some numbers and basically if you were TPing in Cessance, Brutal, and Aurg Orb+1, and you are able to r20 augment the new Earring and Ammo, you lose 1stp and gain +19acc, +15atk, +2 DA, +3SB, and +3STR

I think I dont get it. Cessance, Brutal, and Aurg Orb+1 have 8% DA total. Switching Ammo alone is +3DA. Switching earring is another 1 or 3DA (depends which earring you plan to switch). So it cant be +2DA total gain after switching both?
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By JezeyX206 2021-01-13 18:10:39
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What is you guys up to date king's Justice ws set ?
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By Heghmoh 2021-01-15 11:32:28
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SimonSes said: »
Heghmoh said: »
I compared some numbers and basically if you were TPing in Cessance, Brutal, and Aurg Orb+1, and you are able to r20 augment the new Earring and Ammo, you lose 1stp and gain +19acc, +15atk, +2 DA, +3SB, and +3STR

I think I dont get it. Cessance, Brutal, and Aurg Orb+1 have 8% DA total. Switching Ammo alone is +3DA. Switching earring is another 1 or 3DA (depends which earring you plan to switch). So it cant be +2DA total gain after switching both?

Cessance Earring:
ACC 6, DA 3, STP 3
Brutal:
DA 5, STP 1
Aurg Orb:
STR/DEX/VIT+7, ATK+10, STP +5
Total: ACC+6, ATK+10, DA+8, STP+9, STR/DEX/VIT+7

Schere
DA +6, SB +3, STR+ 5 (AUGMENT: ACC +15, ATK+5?)
Telos
Acc+10, ATK+10, DA+1, STP+5
Coiste
DA+3, STP+3 (AUGMENT: ATK +15, STR +5?)
Total: ACC: 25, ATK: 30, DA: 10, STP: 8, SB: 3, STR: 10

Dif:
ACC+19, ATK+20, DA+2, STP-1, STR+3, DEX/VIT-7, SB+3
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By malakef 2021-01-15 12:04:42
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Oh you did a terrible switch over to the telos that’s why. Id probably do schere with either brutal, Cessance, or dedition in that order before falling to telos if using Vim torque and FR down. If FR up then you go schere dedition most likely. Actually it all changes ever so slightly depending on if using Chango or fencer builds and what your augments are but telos is almost never the choice.
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By Heghmoh 2021-01-15 12:43:52
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I guess it really depends on where you land with Double attack / stp / accuracy thresholds, but yes. I almost always have a COR for Fighters, so with the gear i have and ussing shere/telos I am at 103% DA. So, actually a bit above. Brutal is a loss, Cessance is also a loss, Dedition may be better if I'm over acc cap.
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By Fairy.Khory 2021-01-15 15:45:10
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As a WAR/DRG for Savage blade:

I am currently using

Hjarrandi Breastplate
Sulevia's Gloves

In my Tp set. I think that there are better alternative / combinations out there, but not so sure on what to look for.

Currently i have 50 DA, should I be aiming for 65 (and effectively 100% DA rate)?

Full Set
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By Spaitin 2021-01-16 18:00:15
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page 183 has a list of recommended TP sets. 2hand and fencer tp sets are the same.
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By SimonSes 2021-01-17 04:19:11
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Heghmoh said: »
I guess it really depends on where you land with Double attack / stp / accuracy thresholds, but yes. I almost always have a COR for Fighters, so with the gear i have and ussing shere/telos I am at 103% DA. So, actually a bit above. Brutal is a loss, Cessance is also a loss, Dedition may be better if I'm over acc cap.

Would be good to mention Telos in your first post tho You only said
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if you were TPing in Cessance, Brutal, and Aurg Orb+1, and you are able to r20 augment the new Earring and Ammo, you lose 1stp and gain +19acc, +15atk, +2 DA, +3SB, and +3STR
which doesnt have sense without mentioning Telos.

Also if you compare stats like that, you should also add att and acc from DEX/STR

Heghmoh said: »
Cessance Earring:
ACC 6, DA 3, STP 3
Brutal:
DA 5, STP 1
Aurg Orb:
STR/DEX/VIT+7, ATK+10, STP +5
Total: ACC+10~11, ATK+17, DA+8, STP+9, STR/DEX/VIT+7

Schere
DA +6, SB +3, STR+ 5 (AUGMENT: ACC +15, ATK+5?)
Telos
Acc+10, ATK+10, DA+1, STP+5
Coiste
DA+3, STP+3 (AUGMENT: ATK +15, STR +5?)
Total: ACC: 25, ATK: 38, DA: 10, STP: 8, SB: 3, STR: 10

Dif:
ACC+14~15, ATK+21, DA+2, STP-1, STR+3, DEX/VIT-7, SB+3

According to you, you switch 101%DA to 103%DA, so you get nothing here. So mostly you get some acc, att and SB+3 at cost of 1sTP. Its not a bad trade I guess (assuming you are not at an att and acc cap already, because then it is a bad trade), but keep in mind you will need like 200 000 segments and 66 NM kills at V15 to augment those two pieces and without those augments you are at an acc and att loss actually.
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By Heghmoh 2021-01-17 07:13:26
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Fair enough
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By Lili 2021-01-17 09:39:08
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Question on Unit Rankings, did we ever figure out what the bonus value formulas were? As in, what's the difference between Rank 1 or Rank 2 for something like Tatenashi gote +1?

I don't think we ever did, but also most of those seem kinda... arbitrary, in how they grow with rank. The only consistent behavior has been that you only get the maximum value at Rank 1, then it goes down from there.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-01-17 16:52:18
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Spaitin said: »
War TP sets
ItemSet 375440
ItemSet 375415
ItemSet 367125
ItemSet 375308

if no buffs

ItemSet 375439
for DT
ItemSet 367123
ItemSet 375441

MEVA TP set. surprisingly good.
ItemSet 375369

Fighters hybrid has a lot of wiggle room.

Upheaval set.
ItemSet 367495


Whats the replacement for Tatenashi body incase you dont own it ?
Edit. Still Valo body or Hja body then if no Tate body ?
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By Spaitin 2021-01-17 18:53:12
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The NQ sets are used if you don't have the HQ set. Labled in the sets title
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-01-17 18:57:01
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OK but if i miss only body to complete HQ set, can i keep Valo body
Or should i use something else ?
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By Spaitin 2021-01-17 18:57:55
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use the val body. Odyssean body works well too. So does flamma.
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