Crafting Positions.

Digging up a maybe old topic, but im just curious

Which moon phase is it good to Skill up on?

Which day is it good to skill up on?

Which Position to face to skill up on?

maybe you guys can answer my question? ^^

edit: do Elemental staffs really affect skill up or is it more used for HQ?

moon phase: full moon

day: darksday gives the best skillups but more breaks. lightsday is your second best option if you want to minimize breaks. (not sure about this answer if your talking about light or dark crystal synths)

Face the position the direction the crystal is weak to.

good luck

Is there any hardcore proof about directional synthesis? I've had multiple debates with people in my ls and on my fl and while most agree that moon phase and day effects synthesis it kinda seems like the direction you face is a lil bit of a stretch. Is there any data or research to back directional synthesis? If so I would love to take a look. The few dozen tests that I have done haven't really shown the way you face to have much effect. I still tend to use direction when I synth, just wondered if anyone has done some extensive testing.

I think anyone who has done extensive break-synthing(10+ levels in a day) knows that direction matters. I've been break-synthing smithing for 3 days and went from 30-51 in the first 2 days. I made steel cuisses but didn't break those since they sell for profit to the guild(depending on demand) so I'll use those and the base ingredients I made for them as the examples. I always do a 9 level gap with support to start. I never craft on the "wrong" day of the week. Moonphase for both synths was new moon. My results went like this:

6 level gap "wrong" direction steel scales = 127 Synths, 48 breaks, 51 skillups
6 level gap "right" direction steel cuisses = 109 Synths, 5 breaks, 28 skillups

The skillups may be off by a couple but I think they're about right(I had a 50% skillup rate on the scales and 30% on the cuisses). It's nothing conclusive but the way I look at it is if it doesn't matter it can't hurt to try.

I guess I should of mentioned most of the tests that I have done have been on my main craft 60+ or trying for HQ. Seems like you could stand on your head and get close to a 50% skill up rate pre 50 as long as you stay under 6 level gap. Haven't tried much break synthing, I try to farm/make money when I skill up, never been in a rush. Nice info tho, I might try some break synths to finish up my sub crafts. It's nice to see some info that backs directional synthesis, I use it 98% of the time but I have come across some people who say its nonsense.

I think it took around 700 total synths to get from 30-53. That includes crafting base items I couldn't skillup on though. Overall I'd say my skillup rate was more in the 30% range though. I had a few lucky streaks where it was 50%(like the scales) but that def wasn't normal. Like I said above though I made about 5k profit per pair of steel cuisses and I made a lot of those so it wasn't terrible when it got slow.

great information and solved my question ^^

Thx again FFXI^^

In my opinion, even if there isn't an official proof it doesn't hurt to do it just in case xD

I haven't done any tests myself, but according to Baelorn there's actually a big difference. Well in any case truthful or not, like I said before, it doesn't hurt to move a bit and take a chance on the odds of having better synt/skillups.

It's sure nice to see someone actually test this to a certain degree in order to back up their claim, even if it's not fully conclusive.

Today so far:

Nodowa = 52 synths, 34 breaks, 18 skillups

Same conditions as above but 62% moon(waning)

Everytimg I've ever seen posted results they back this up. Everytime I've synthed there is very immediate and clear changes in success/skillup rate when I change direction/day change and thats with 4 60s and a 94 craft. However I've never ever had good luck HQing kinda gave up. Though using the general methods seemed to help hadn't really done it anywhere near enough to count

does anyone know the % rate for when your goldsmithing?
im sure each recipe is diffrent and each craft is diffrent.

im like 57.3 gold, and im still makin hydro claws which cap at 59, i face west, with fire crystals.

i also have plat ore synth, cap 64, i face NW with fire crystal.

theres no bridge for 57.3-59, so most likely i gotta do it all the way, and start at 59-64 for the platinum's

theres a very high chance ill break most of the time since im a 5 lvl cap. but is it more reccommended to face the synth rate direction or success direction?

any tips is appreciated.

Hydro claw: 24 synth 5 breaks 6 skill ups.
keep in mind- 12 synth = 100k+
Smithing:32(cap) gold:56.6(mid)[cap:59]

well 5 lvls away from cap isnt necessarily bad. I can get good success at 6 though thats the farthest Ill go even with advanced support generally speaking I use this
http://ffxi.lokyst.net/timer/crafttimer.html Trying to stay between 2-3 difficulty. I like to use staffs they seem to help success or fail a little.
As far as skillups try plat beastcoins it caps at 61 and is pretty much break even. For that matter plat oreX4 is only 63 so still viable. Id wait till trying the ore+nuggets recipe