How To Usetwo Different Ffxi Folders With Windower

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How to Usetwo different ffxi folders with windower
 Phoenix.Gaiarorshack
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2012-09-27 14:04:23
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I want to run two session of the game but from each its game folder
anyway to setup windower so i can do that ?

can i just make 2 folder of windower and set one up for each game folder ? (e.g. does windower use registry or only local .ini files?)
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By Fenrir.Hyar 2012-09-27 14:15:50
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I'm extremely confused as to what you're asking exactly with the separate game folders. You can make different name instances for windower with the GUI included with it. Even so, you can just run the same icon named 'Gaiaroshack' from desktop twice and have the same result. Other then that, perhaps somebody else can explain it better.

Edit: Not sure why you would need two different ffxi folders to begin with.
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By Artemicion 2012-09-27 14:18:14
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From what I can gather she wants to run separate instances of windower so one operates under a particular initiation script instead of sharing the same one.
Unfortunately I don't really have an answer or solution. You might just want to try installing two folders of the windower and see if they operate independently despite sharing the same memory hook to the local game files.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-09-27 14:26:17
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I'm pretty sure you can have 2 (or more) different windower installations, though I'm not sure why you'd want to since you can have multiple configurations for the same single installation.

As for FFXI, it's difficult to have more than one installation because of the registry settings; both windower and the game will only recognize one installation.

It would really help if you explain exactly what it is you want to do, and not how you want to do it (that comes later).
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By Bismarck.Tragedie 2012-09-27 14:51:39
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This can be done with some caveats.

Windower loads the plugins and scripts in the folder in which it resides; however, it uses the FFXI settings from the registry and the FFXI installation folder to launch the game.

In short, the benefit to having multiple Windower folders would be to have different init scripts and specific settings, which can be beneficial when launching multiple instances of FFXI with different resoltions. The drawback is you'd have your scripts and plugins in two different locations, which can become a pain to manage and update.

I've considered doing this, but ended up sticking to a single folder installation. Windower can be launched using an alternate .ini file for settings, however, some registry changes need to be made if you're working at different resolutions. I kind of outlined how I do this in a previous thread... there might be a better way to accomplish what I'm doing, but it works flawlessly for me.

The only thing to keep in mind when using that method is you do not want to launch the 2nd instance of Windower before the first instance is actually in FFXI (past the play button, before the Character Selection screen).

Multiple character compatability: I have a script I run whenever I log into my second character that changes the posistion of on screen elements (Distance plugin, etc.) to adjust to the smaller resolution... I also have it drop down the drawdistance. Because my alt's BLM scripts might different from mine main's, I have separate scripts for those. Spellcast is simple... you can use Charname_Job.xml for files that differ between characters (Tragedie_BLM.xml and Minxie_BLM.xml, for example), or stick with a single type for basic scripts or ones that have identical gear (SMN.xml might cover both chars with identical gearsets, etc.)

I think autoexec supports performing actions when you log in at a certain resolution, so some of the stuff I'm currently doing manually (out of habit and laziness) can probably be done automatically.

What is the main thing you're trying to accomplish with two Windower folders?




On a side note, check out FFXIAH's new Windower Support Section. Don't know if a mod can move this thread, but I think it's a good question to have listed there.
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2012-09-27 14:55:03
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I want to run two session of the game but from each their own game folder.

I don't want the two sessions to read/write from the same game folder. Therefore i want to start the 2 sessions of the game from each their own folder.

but since I'm running with windower i need to tell windowed to run first session from folder1 and the second from folder2.
however i don't see anywhere i can change the folder from witch it activates the game.
it seems to me it reads the install path of the game from the registry and not from its own .ini file.

which i guess i could just make a batch file for each session that import a registry with the correct path to the game
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2012-09-27 15:02:23
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TY for the info tragedie
but its not windower folder i want to have two off, but instead the FFXI game folder.

i just assumed i would need two windower folders since i could't find a way to change what path it used to run the game.


the reason im dong this is to experince with i/o if there are some racing conditions that can lead to more stutter
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By Carbuncle.Templite 2012-09-27 15:06:53
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i'm guessing you want to do that so the chatlogs won't interfere with each other?

i am pretty sure someone woulda hooked this up a long time ago if it was easily done but most everyone just uses a chatlog parser of some sort to seperate multibox chat

i estimate 2+box people redot like 90% cus of chat log errors, 10% Time-Warner Cable bs

edit: grumble: said what she was doing it for same time-ish i gave my dumb theory

second edit: i dont understand the reference to racing conditions but i'm higher than usual
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2012-09-27 15:09:23
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chatlog is especially one of them but i also wanted to monitor the loading of dats when zoning in at the same time or just general when you are loading in texture.

-- edit --
Don't know if this helps but here
Racing Conditions on wiki
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By Carbuncle.Templite 2012-09-27 15:12:20
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i dont know but i think they were working on this for windower 4 and it just ballooned out of control as far as code time or something, i could be way off. i want to say it's not possible or i would have it, but that's also possibly wrong.

edit: that link helped in so far as it proved you aren't crazy. as for me comprehending what that has to do with ffxi, no dice
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By Fenrir.Framerate 2012-09-27 15:16:31
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If you're having trouble with the chat log, download Aureus's XI-Util and launch the game through his sandbox plugin. It should fix the chatlog issue.

This is a feature we're hoping to include in the new Windower release, but it's proven trickier than it would appear.
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