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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 20:16:36
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8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
DVD Super Multi



I ask because I'll be buying a laptop soon. (hopefully)
Either:
Acer Aspire V3-771G-9665 (DVD Super Multi)
Acer Aspire V3-771G-9697 (8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive)

The contrast between the two shown here
Seems the only difference between the two(unless there's further spec searching in there) is the 9697 has +250GB more HD and the Optical Drive

I was curious of the difference between the drives...
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-20 20:29:08
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If your picking one of those

Acer Aspire V3-771G-9665
Get the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215541

Ignore the drive name difference.

It helps to tell what you use the laptop for.

First upgrade I suggest is to swap the 750HDD to the 2nd slot and install a SSD. It will make a world of difference.

Then Change the Memory to something faster. Size of memory doesn't do as much as most people think.

That all being said, there might be better laptops for that price range.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-20 20:31:39
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Acer laptops are pretty much crap though...

Get an Asus
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-20 20:32:24
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Side note: The other one doesn't exactly have +250GB. It has 2 separate 500GB Drives, and it weights about half pound more than cheaper one.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 20:48:38
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Um....for general purpose but when I do play games i'd like to enjoy them. (quality, lil to no lag and such)
My game examples would be:
This
GC Dolphin Emulator
Other Emulator
Minecraft
Phantstasy Star Online 2
SWTOR (maybe in the future)
LOL (maybe in the future)
possible future games....


As far as the laptop it self...
Pretty much have to get it from newegg
So if there's something you see on that site that's under 1k? (or very close)


I'm all ears :o
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-20 20:56:18
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ignore the over 1k I missed a filter

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=32&Description=&Type=&N=100006740+50001315&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&Manufactory=1315&PropertyCodeValue=393%3A49576&PropertyCodeValue=398%3A6696&PropertyCodeValue=398%3A47205&PropertyCodeValue=398%3A39989&PropertyCodeValue=398%3A6698&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A266883&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A304112&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A305523&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A284980&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A75109&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A154106&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A167527&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A300423&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A300381&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A284981&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A334497&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A55132&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A134413&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A217920&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A277781&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A277760&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A130469&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A130474&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A148260&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A315474&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A315475&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A315476&PropertyCodeValue=402%3A315478&PropertyCodeValue=410%3A46027

they're all about those specs some better some worse
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 20:58:34
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Going through them now. but from those listed which would you recommend if u had to pick one? (That's not over 1k)

I used to feel some kind of way about getting refurbished computers...guess that paranoia of possible not being "Fully clean" then BOOM! Blue screen out of the blue lol
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-20 20:59:18
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take it as you will but each person I've steered to Asus hasn't been disappointed, and I haven't been either with any of their products I've bought recently, which the same can't be said for even Sony in the past few years.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 21:01:16
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OH don't get me wrong I'm actually fond of Asus (never owned one but hasn't known anyone whose had one that has been disappointed) it's just all the ones i looked at where 1k+ is all :P

And since I'm doing a finance...wanted to budget my money per month since they doing some promotion thing....
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-20 21:02:41
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probably be between the two refurbs tbh.
didn't realize they all were...

umm


prolly these 2:

N82E16834230352 N82E16834230454

maybe this one if I knew more specs (like hdd arrangement).

N82E16834230455
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 21:04:57
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There all refurbs lol Well except for the one w/o the image.

Checking now.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-20 21:07:01
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I'd bump the budget up to like $1200 and wait another month or two.

This selection isn't that great. Or you could knock the screen size down to 15.6 on a laptop (especially if you're mobile a lot) it's not that much of a difference, and it's lighter.

(my gf has a 15.6" Asus and I'd trade her for my 17.3 HP if I could, paid $300 more for mine and hers smokes mine out of the water).
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 21:16:38
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Hmmmm yea i was also recommended by another person that 15.6 (although a bit bigger) quality depending on a few different accounts 15.6 would be better...of course when i find some that fit what I'd like to do...they like 1.3k plus and can don't wanna spend that much on a laptop :o

The ones i had up there seem sturdy from what I checked on it but guess not so much


Of course that could just be me being difficult lol
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-20 21:18:55
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Its not a bad choice if you have to stay newegg and want I7/Nvidia.

I just really recommend the SSD drive upgrade.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231613

G.SKILL Phoenix III FM-25S3-120GBP3 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal 7mm Solid State Drive

It's a thicker drive, so check out all the specs first.

Spend the Rest of your 1k on Memory
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1866 Laptop Memory Model CMSX8GX3M2A1866C10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233243
Make sure your laptop actually supports this memory speed before ordering.


The brand of laptop really makes no difference.
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-20 21:22:02
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The other ones are nice, but my suggestions will keep you in budget, and you wont be disappointed either.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-20 21:25:49
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Ah ok cool.
Thank you on your insight.
I have a general idea of what good specs are but that's a grey area when written down lol

But Cowrevenge may i ask why you picked the 9665 over the 9697?

Seeing they in the same series I'm going to assume the 9697 is just the newer version of the 9665.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-20 21:28:00
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Acer still suck though...

I'll take a longer look tomorrow, I'm starting to pass out as it is.
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By Kieron 2012-09-20 21:47:39
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http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=AC523278A4F13F27A84F5F5622D1AC7A&action=init&ipromoID=uspbstrbn3y58000744&;

Not sure about Lenovo but its packing a Quad-Core i7 and a gtx 660m for only $830.
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-20 22:23:04
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The 9697 is a waste of $50. Because you will lose that 500GB when you swap to the SSD. The 9695 is packing a 750GB single drive.
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-09-20 22:57:03
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If looking for a hard drive there is these hybrid things. they are part ssd and part standard drive. you end up with faster speed like a ssd while having the storage size and price of a standard. They basically learn as you go and store the common use stuff on the ssd.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148940
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-21 06:19:02
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Valefor.Cowrevenge said: »
The 9697 is a waste of $50. Because you will lose that 500GB when you swap to the SSD. The 9695 is packing a 750GB single drive.

it's not really a waste of anything he could still keep it and throw it on a usb adapter (they're cheap). Not to mention having 2 slots is >1.

But after I'm a bit more awake and realizing those Acer more I realized they were both 1600xwhatever and not 1920x1080 and that they both had shitty hdd's in them (5400's are slow as balls).

Give me like 2 hours and I'll be at work and hopefully waiting on updates or something and I can look for you, for now I have to get ready.
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-21 09:57:57
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Its a waste cause he will end up with 1.25GB with the other one.

Nothing wrong with a hybrid drive, but I don't see the point since, he would have a large secondary drive anyway. Also Hybrids are slower in general use than a real SSD.

The higher resolution can actually cause your frame rates to drop. You wont notice the difference in image, but will notice the slow downs.
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-21 10:00:16
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A second edit, Hybrids are way out of budget, because your also paying for the higher storage.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-21 11:35:38
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SSDs for the most part are used for the OS yea? (And potentially some games)

I ask because I think my friend did that in his laptop....of course his was out of warranty and idk how Acer policy on that is....


I know with HP or atleast the one I had they didn't care as long you didn't mess it up still didn't void warranty....
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-09-21 12:30:42
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Valefor.Cowrevenge said: »
Its a waste cause he will end up with 1.25GB with the other one.

Nothing wrong with a hybrid drive, but I don't see the point since, he would have a large secondary drive anyway. Also Hybrids are slower in general use than a real SSD.

The higher resolution can actually cause your frame rates to drop. You wont notice the difference in image, but will notice the slow downs.

Valefor.Cowrevenge said: »
A second edit, Hybrids are way out of budget, because your also paying for the higher storage.

I'm not sure you're understanding what people are talking about. You can get external hard drive cases that let you put a old internal harddrive in and then plug it into your computer. They are very cheap 5-15 dollars and work very nice. I have one that I stuck in a 80 gig from a old laptop to both recover files and then use as storage.

As far as hybrids go they are far cheaper than SSD with the large disk storage because disk drive are far cheaper. The SSD part stores common use stuff like OS and other common use programs. The more you use it the more it learns what to keep ready and gets faster and faster.

I also saw you listed Ram that was ddr3 1866 but you ignore the CL where the CL on the one you listed is CL10 that being latency or how long it waits before it starts responding. Having the one number being large wont matter as much if the CL is also high. Here is link to explain it better.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Understanding-RAM-Timings/26/2
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-09-21 12:47:05
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Why would you want to use an external HDD? That's even slower than an internal HDD. I'm going to invest in like a 100 GB SSD. I already have a 1 TB HDD, so I'll just keep most things on the HDD and reserve the SSD for OS and games.
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-09-21 13:13:44
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Odin.Tsuneo said: »
Why would you want to use an external HDD? That's even slower than an internal HDD. I'm going to invest in like a 100 GB SSD. I already have a 1 TB HDD, so I'll just keep most things on the HDD and reserve the SSD for OS and games.

It is for storage and back up not to run os on.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-21 13:35:26
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I was told (please correct me if I was misinformed) that you can't use SDD on 2nd generation laptop? Something about SSD isn't compatible with Sandy Bridge or something along those lines.


I used to get confused bout the code name and such.
Is Sandy 2nd gen and Ivy 3rd gen?
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By Valefor.Cowrevenge 2012-09-21 14:01:19
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I'm not sure a pc an tell the difference in a SSD.

Heimdallm, you should read the thread. No on is talking about externals. The memory is just an example, I stated that. It's about created what he wants within his budget.

What you may be missing, this laptop supports 2 HDD. Its the source of confusion in this thread.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-09-21 15:28:54
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The Dual Harddrive Support I caught :P even notice that when I read it on newegg.

And you made a valid point of installing an SSD.
My curiosity though is can you just move the current windows files from the prestock hardrive to the new SSD.

Probably voids warranty if you do *shrugs*

My only confusion at first was the difference between the optical drives haha

Yea external harddrive im not concern with nor need since i have 500GB external (won at a contest) that i rarely even use i use my 16GB more and i still have 11GB free on that lol
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