Producer Matsui Reveals Changes To SP Abilities
Producer Matsui reveals changes to SP Abilities
Nyzul likes to screw us over enough at is it. There's no reason to slack off on the side we can control. The other night we had a run where our jumps were literally 2>3>2>3>2, and we still made it decently high, and that's because we don't bring HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE jobs.
Bahamut.Vagrua said: »
cookie cutter
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If by "cookie cutter" you mean "the build most capable of success" then I don't see what the problem is. Lowering your chance of victory, possibly significantly, just to be a special snowflake is pretty much a 15 on the scale of one to derp
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Valefor.Kiaru said: »
Shirukenu said: »
So uhm, what exactly -will- scholars be used for after this?
(Heck, I'm wondering what they think Red Mages should be doing)
(Heck, I'm wondering what they think Red Mages should be doing)
Crowd control.
Also edited my post and added a lot more. Basically if you think SCH is only there for embrava, you're playing with horrible sch's.
Also edited my post and added a lot more. Basically if you think SCH is only there for embrava, you're playing with horrible sch's.
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Because he's talking about Unbridled Wisdom, not Unbridled Learning. They're both just about equally as ***, but the former could be reduced to like... 3 spells instead of unlimited or something. Actually wouldn't affect its usefulness in the slightest.
Odin v2 is a perfect example of a well designed boss fight. You can't PD embrava zerg it(you still embrava..but bleh), and it doesn't have unavoidable 1 shots. It's pretty much the only well designed fight added since the level cap increase ._.
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Because he's talking about Unbridled Wisdom, not Unbridled Learning.
I can totally see the devs thinking that the capacity to use multiple 350 TP Unbridled Learning spells via the combination of Azure Lore and Unbridled Wisdom is somehow overpowered. It wouldn't be, but I can still see it happening.
Fair question: What event needs crowd control @99?
Bahamut.Vagrua said: »
Maybe in theory, but unfortunately most people go with their cookie cutter setups neglecting other jobs completely.
Welcome to ffxi.
And besides why would you want to decrease your chances of winning,just to be special.....
I dont want to agree with the whole "X jobs onry" like it was at 75 cap,but if its the most effective and reliable way to get it done,then you're only hurting your group to be "that guy"
Quiznor said: »
Bahamut.Vagrua said: »
Maybe in theory, but unfortunately most people go with their cookie cutter setups neglecting other jobs completely.
Welcome to ffxi.
And besides why would you want to decrease your chances of winning,just to be special.....
I dont want to agree with the whole "X jobs onry" like it was at 75 cap,but if its the most effective and reliable way to get it done,then you're only hurting your group to be "that guy"
It's not about wanting to be "special", it's about thinking that other jobs/strategies can still complete the content besides the ones that are already known and able. I feel like I'm preaching to the wrong choir here though.
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In regards to Nyzul, we've all already said other combinations are quite possible; however, with the amount of luck that goes into the event, why lessen your odds of winning even further by settling for less than optimal?
Odin.Tsuneo said: »
In regards to Nyzul, we've all already said other combinations are quite possible; however, with the amount of luck that goes into the event, why lessen your odds of winning even further by settling for less than optimal?
Xbox achievement points.
Bahamut.Vagrua said: »
It's not about wanting to be "special", it's about thinking that other jobs/strategies can still complete the content besides the ones that are already known and able. I feel like I'm preaching to the wrong choir here though.
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NNI is not the right event to take a "different approach" to, especially when running vanilla.
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
NNI is not the right event to take a "different approach" to, especially when running vanilla.
Feel free to take many approaches on vanilla because you'll be failing runs for a while. Might as well make it a bit interesting.
I'm just trying to point out that NNI is not the right event to try to make the argument that Vagrua is making. >_>
Better yet, don't bother doing NNI at all on vanilla. Spend tags on salvage and ***to make gil to buy the armor sets
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I'm just trying to point out that NNI is not the right event to try to make the argument that Vagrua is making. >_>
Oh I agree with you but running Nyzul2 on a vanilla experience (no skype/teamspeak/ventrilo either) is pretty much a place to go have fun failing runs or farming 80s.
Goldbox is boss.
theeklipse85 said: »
I'm going to go ahead and say the same things they just might actually have to do more then just cast embrava.
Sch's are awesome for fell cleaves as well as exp parties, if your party isnt so nubified they think stealing the ISL from the sch because embrava is a waste of time....some of these "abyssea only" leveled nubs kill me.
as far as the smn nerf, and im' speaking without fully knowing the deatils but could you just spam shock squal or w/e like chainspell stun with their new 2hr once PD wears for ADL
Sch's are awesome for fell cleaves as well as exp parties, if your party isnt so nubified they think stealing the ISL from the sch because embrava is a waste of time....some of these "abyssea only" leveled nubs kill me.
as far as the smn nerf, and im' speaking without fully knowing the deatils but could you just spam shock squal or w/e like chainspell stun with their new 2hr once PD wears for ADL
So SCH's do more than just cast embrava...and you exemplify it by xp parties in abyssea commenting about nub groups stealing ISL's from the sch so they can cast embrava.
i forgot to change my 2box from whm to sch for nyzul once and we won anyway
but yea, like i said 6 pages ago, brd at rune with good fast cast set and a sch, done
If you're upset about lower win rate, get them done now. It's not like it's going to drop to unwinnable and the gear is well worth even 5 tags/single piece. I don't see why there's such a big stink over it.
but yea, like i said 6 pages ago, brd at rune with good fast cast set and a sch, done
If you're upset about lower win rate, get them done now. It's not like it's going to drop to unwinnable and the gear is well worth even 5 tags/single piece. I don't see why there's such a big stink over it.
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
i forgot to change my 2box from whm to sch for nyzul once and we won anyway
but yea, like i said 6 pages ago, brd at rune with good fast cast set and a sch, done
If you're upset about lower win rate, get them done now. It's not like it's going to drop to unwinnable and the gear is well worth even 5 tags/single piece. I don't see why there's such a big stink over it.
but yea, like i said 6 pages ago, brd at rune with good fast cast set and a sch, done
If you're upset about lower win rate, get them done now. It's not like it's going to drop to unwinnable and the gear is well worth even 5 tags/single piece. I don't see why there's such a big stink over it.
From the looks of it, people are forgetting the "changing other content part" and thinking about how nerfing SCH will not get them Nyzul gear.
I think a change to NNI will definitely be made, and if not.. what they SHOULD do is lower the amount of KI from floor 80 it takes to get an item, say, 5... at least that way the "vanilla" players will still be rewarded.
I think this change is a good start to bringing the game back from the grave. Have I done Legion or NNI..? Nope. Why? I work, plain and simple. Would I want to? I'd love to, but not as SCH because of a certain characteristic or be forced to go SMN for Alexander.. which I STILL don't have (working on it...).
Back to the point. This game needs to utilize ALL of the jobs that it has, even to some extent. I commend Matsui for realizing this and trying to change it. It's not to "nerf" or weaken the game.. it's to only make it better.
Also for those who give me "Well I work and I still have time for events, etc." I come home exhausted.. usually to play around 4-5 hours at a time if I don't have a day off. I don't want to be bound to a 7 day a week linkshell, I play for fun. The point I was trying to make is the game is going in the right direction, for hardcore and casual players alike.
DNC is perfectly capable of doing nyzul, refusing to go SCH because it's for embrava is a bit silly, and it's at most 2 hours if you do 4 tags at a time(and you say you play 4-5). You don't need a linkshell for nyzul. If you want to do nyzul, do nyzul.
Can't say the same for legion, but meh.
Can't say the same for legion, but meh.
Your average DNC is just going to be dead weight in Nyzul, but if one has listened to anything I've said on the job I'm sure it would be adequate.
Still not going to be an Ukon or Rag 99, but it's not like you really need 4 of those to win anyway.
And unless you're lamp ***, there's a lot more to SCH in Nyzul than Embrava.
And even if you're lamp ***, there's still stratagem management and buff coordination. It's actually pretty fun.
Still not going to be an Ukon or Rag 99, but it's not like you really need 4 of those to win anyway.
And unless you're lamp ***, there's a lot more to SCH in Nyzul than Embrava.
And even if you're lamp ***, there's still stratagem management and buff coordination. It's actually pretty fun.
Also being lamp SCH means you can get away without using "tools" if it really bothers you.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Your average DNC is just going to be dead weight in Nyzul, but if one has listened to anything I've said on the job I'm sure it would be adequate.
Still not going to be an Ukon or Rag 99, but it's not like you really need 4 of those to win anyway.
And unless you're lamp ***, there's a lot more to SCH in Nyzul than Embrava.
And even if you're lamp ***, there's still stratagem management and buff coordination. It's actually pretty fun.
Still not going to be an Ukon or Rag 99, but it's not like you really need 4 of those to win anyway.
And unless you're lamp ***, there's a lot more to SCH in Nyzul than Embrava.
And even if you're lamp ***, there's still stratagem management and buff coordination. It's actually pretty fun.
Which is one of the reasons I miss SCH terribly, for I too was a perma-SCH when it first came out.
Now.. I'll stick with WHM ; ; No love for teh WHM...
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