Double Attack And WS

I'm getting a few people telling me that you can Double Attack in a WS, but I've never seen it.

So: does multi-hit factor into any WS at all, aside from TP build?

Lol can't tell if trolling or serious...

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Actual answer: all WS's except ranged ones can double/triple/quad ect. but no attack round may go over 8 hits.

That's natural double/triple/quad. Effects attached to OAx weapons and mythics ect and handled differently and generally do not proc on WS's.

I'm serious. I'm making my wish list and equip sets, and I'm not sure how it fits into the damage calculations.

Example: Calmann's Torment is a single hit WS that normally does about 1.1k damage. If I equip brutal earring for it's double attack, would Calmann's Torment do 2.2k damage occasionally?

DA/TA/QA can proc up to twice on WS (once only on singlehit WS). The OAX mythics can proc once on WS, inclusive within the prior limitation. 2-3x damage on the ranged mythics cannot, nor can any other form of OAX.

Nope. The first hit of Camlann's Torment has a boosted modifier that we call "fTP". A DA proc would be closer to 1500. This page can explain it all to you.

Thanks for the info, Nightfyre. I'm going to have to read it during a time when I'm not doing dynamis and posting on ffxiah forums, only to look back and realize I'm nearly dead, surronded by 6 nightmare crabs ;;

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You won't actually see it. I think the only way you can tell through normal in-game means if you multi-attacked on a WS is by the ammount of TP you got. Extra hits after the first give 1 TP? Easier to tell on 1 hit WS, but multihit WS might be diffcult to notice due to missing natural hits of the WS. If everything I said was ***, my apologies.

You never unequip the Brutal anyway.

any test of this ? i just fin it funny that it would only do 2 da procs and not 3 or 4.

TY in advance

You ever notice that a WS that lets say does 1k consistantly all of a sudden does 2.3k or something of the sort? Thats the multi hit most of the time.

There are times, albeit rare, when an earring other than Brutal is the correct choice for a melee job.

If there was a specific test that established this, I've long since forgotten where to find it. It was the source of some contention years back, but no conclusive proof to the contrary was ever furnished and the 2-multiattack maximum is widely held to be correct now.

pretty shame.just during my times i have heard alot of different stuff

- only proc on one hit
- can proc on all hits
This is the first time ive heard it can proc only on 2 hits

This is a lie.

Actually, I'd say Requi might be one of those times. Double neptune pearl is pretty solid for that. Or in the case of those merited multi hit WSs like shijin spiral. You might get more out of the actual mod in some cases. Also Asuran Fists is already 8 hits so brutal would literally do nothing :P

Back at 75 when mnks used asuran fists brutal didnt have a place!

Based on what exactly?

It's useless for Realmrazer when DWing and from what I gather it's suboptimal for stacked Rudra's and Mercy. Asuran Fists doesn't benefit from it either but that's not especially relevant nowadays.

The difference is maybe half of a tenth of a percent with respect to total melee DPS if on BLU with full DD traits, but yes... Neptune's does slightly more damage per-WS while Brutal will ever-so-slightly improve WS frequency, but this is only true if you're getting the full 4 WSC out of Neptune's. The difference is more noticeable with Tizona AM3. Moonshade should beat anything else unless Ratio is at/near cap though.