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Jetackuu said: » Odin.Tsuneo said: » I know they've done some hi-res icons and the new UI is PC only, but is the graphics part actually held back by PS2? Is it impossible to just upgrade PC if they wanted to? no it's not, Latifah is talking out of his ***. If SE decides to upgrade the game graphics. they will need to drop down the ps2. that's why ps2 users dont get HD fonts and icons that uses major ram as well, If this was not an issue they could also put ff14 on ps2. This reminds me that Yoship stated that they will upgrade the engine for ff14, so it can run well on the ps3, because the extreme demanding resources that the game needs. Not to mention the different gui for both platforms. The ps3 version will also have less draw distance. You just argued against yourself. The argument wasn't that the PS2 could handle it. The argument was that the PS2 doesn't need to be upgraded for other platforms to be upgraded.
It doesn't make sense that they redesign the game for the pc and look shittier on the ps2 with fewer features on it. it needs to be the same (im talking about graphics and textures) /game mechanics
Latifah said: » Jetackuu said: » Odin.Tsuneo said: » I know they've done some hi-res icons and the new UI is PC only, but is the graphics part actually held back by PS2? Is it impossible to just upgrade PC if they wanted to? no it's not, Latifah is talking out of his ***. If SE decides to upgrade the game graphics. they will need to drop down the ps2. that's why ps2 users dont get HD fonts and icons that uses major ram as well, If this was not an issue they could also put ff14 on ps2. This reminds me that Yoship stated that they will upgrade the engine for ff14, so it can run well on the ps3, because the extreme demanding resources that the game needs. Not to mention the different gui for both platforms. The ps3 version will also have less draw distance. You apparently are ignorant and didn't read the thread, not to mention that no, they wouldn't need to drop the ps2 version to change things that are run on the client side. You really have no idea what you're talking about, your last statement in your second paragraph proves that. I see what you're saying, but it's not making any sense.
Odin.Tsuneo said: » I see what you're saying, but it's not making any sense. because it doesn't make sense. Jetackuu said: » Latifah said: » Jetackuu said: » Odin.Tsuneo said: » I know they've done some hi-res icons and the new UI is PC only, but is the graphics part actually held back by PS2? Is it impossible to just upgrade PC if they wanted to? no it's not, Latifah is talking out of his ***. If SE decides to upgrade the game graphics. they will need to drop down the ps2. that's why ps2 users dont get HD fonts and icons that uses major ram as well, If this was not an issue they could also put ff14 on ps2. This reminds me that Yoship stated that they will upgrade the engine for ff14, so it can run well on the ps3, because the extreme demanding resources that the game needs. Not to mention the different gui for both platforms. The ps3 version will also have less draw distance. You apparently are ignorant and didn't read the thread, not to mention that no, they wouldn't need to drop the ps2 version to change things that are run on the client side. You really have no idea what you're talking about, your last statement in your second paragraph proves that. no it isn't, and no they won't.
your own statement disagrees with itself... Jetackuu said: » no it isn't, and no they won't. your own statement disagrees with itself... Please refer to my earlier statement.
while a lot of the game is client side, most certainly is not, however the part we're discussing is, and is why they can update the files on one platform and not another, not to mention that they can rewrite how the PC handles the code entirely instead of emulating the PS2, and that would fix most of the issues.
I never stated the PS2 could handle those things, nor implied. You need to go back and read the discussion leo was having about the graphics, then again I doubt you would understand it. Keep in mind this is purely whether it's possible or not and not probability. It's basically to debunk all the complaints from the PS2 whiners.
I'm simply... NOT talking about that the ps2 needs to be upgraded in order to get nice things on other platforms, The meme said it's a cancer because ps2 subscribers remains.... and limits the game to get upgraded in a good way, such as new engine and more races. because the ps2 have limited RAM. and SE sadly needs to stay low profile because of that. so ps2 and pc/xbox users will have the same old emulated system
Except the game engine will never be rewritten regardless if ps2 is in the picture or not. I feel like you're intentionally being as dumb as you can be.
It's just an example, idk why you have to pick specifically that. Both of you are on denial. the ps2 will have this game dumbed down forever unless they entirely drop it so it can get upgraded on a large scale
Because.. that's the whole point?
I picked the engine because that's the only thing that limits the game. If you take PS2 out of the situation, PS2 limitations becomes game engine limitations.
Odin.Tsuneo said: » I picked the engine because that's the only thing that limits the game. If you take PS2 out of the situation, PS2 limitations becomes game engine limitations. This explains why most gear are just re-textured and icons looks the same on the 3 platforms indeed, and I said it before: SE has been using the "it's all the PS2's fault" excuse/scapegoat for years, instead of just admitting that they don't want to or don't have the funds to fix the code.
Granted back in the day when the game first came out on PC it enabled the game to be run on the graphics cards of the time as it is heavy on the CPU end, (and would explain a lot of things like fullscreen, it crashing on non multi core pc's when windowed, when it goes to low priority), to it hiccuping on anything that plays with fullscreen, or directx) If they would have made the PC port true, and then the subsequent 360 port from said PC port, instead of the way they did, most of our issues would have never existed (then we'd have other stuff to *** about I'm sure). the bottom line is: supporting the PS2 has never stopped them from fixing the PC version to handle properly, and then being able to use different files on the client to pull up the backgrounds, textures etc, but they still don't do it. Hopefully they will change it somewhat with the new UI coming out, we'll see. Omg Latifah, if all you do is *** about 11, why post? It was said by Kalila in the rune fencer thread I believe as well. Wtf is up man? They aren't gonna add a new race such as male mithra, because of lore. Limitations be damned. Btw, the PC version is getting a UI interface upgrade and it's not on PS2. So it is possible to upgrade some stuff on PC only without dropping PS2 support. God.
Latifah said: » Odin.Tsuneo said: » I picked the engine because that's the only thing that limits the game. If you take PS2 out of the situation, PS2 limitations becomes game engine limitations. This explains why most gear are just re-textured and icons looks the same on the 3 platforms actually that really only explains the auto translate the other two are handled rather differently. and I stated earlier, they can change the way they handle the auto translate feature, even on the PS2, but chose not to. They may now since they have more hdd space, but we'll see. Latifah said: » This explains why most gear are just re-textured and icons looks the same on the 3 platforms Odin.Eikechi said: » Omg Latifah, if all you do is *** about 11, why post? It was said by Kalila in the rune fencer thread I believe as well. Wtf is up man? They aren't gonna add a new race such as male mithra, because of lore. Limitations be damned. Btw, the PC version is getting a UI interface upgrade and it's not on PS2. So it is possible to upgrade some stuff on PC only without dropping PS2 support. God. Didn't answer his question. Why all the XI hateraid? Cyber a mithra only to find out they had a *** or what? I think everyone wants to know.
They can add entirely new zones, but ps2 stops them from adding new gear. That makes perfect sense.
Bismarck.Cicada said: » Didn't answer his question. Why all the XI hateraid? Cyber a mithra only to find out they had a *** or what? I think everyone wants to know. |
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