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By volkom 2012-05-02 13:50:37
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Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
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Life is easier if you just lay back like a rape victim and accept it.


no thanks

So people should go out of their way to involve themselves in others lives over something that wasn't hurting anything or anyone? :|

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

but if the person is an adult, then i'd assume they are old enough and responsible enough to make their own choices. What they do in their private life is none of my business or anyone elses. What I do in my private life is my own business etc etc. However If it comes down to it where we have a generation that has no desire or has a very screwed understanding what the purpose of these things are for, then somewhere we messed up
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-05-02 13:54:03
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In less words that was my point.
By volkom 2012-05-02 14:03:13
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i guess, but taking it like a rape victim sounds harsh and uncomfortable
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-02 14:10:48
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Well, they don't have cooking/cleaning dolls yet. I jest! I jest!

Women are replaceable. As are men. Who's to say we need companionship with a real partner?

Have you met people who can't or refuse to be in a relationship before? They are sad, sad creatures who are truly dead inside.

I refuse to be in a relationship atm. I also don't want to be married. I don't want to be tied down and it's not my thing. I also don't expect anyone to accept that, nor should I expect anything from any one else. I feel at the same time though people like you are sad for feeling they NEED to be in a relationship. You have no self-worth and or confidence, so you need someone else to do it for you. It's really so sad seeing people like you.
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By Odin.Elmodfz 2012-05-02 14:11:10
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Cecilharvey said: »
ok well what can i say... Chobits ? anyone ?

^ This, is exactly what I thought of when I read that article.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-02 14:11:38
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volkom said: »

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

That's my only skill in life >.>
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-05-02 14:37:26
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
volkom said: »

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

That's my only skill in life >.>
We could be twins.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-05-02 14:37:52
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Psychologists often say that people are sums of their experiences. If there are men that prefer dolls to actual people for the simple reason "because it's easier", you can certainly be "irked" by that if you choose but you're likely just upset because they have found a way to circumvent the established monopoly women have over sex in relationships. I.E. because they no longer NEED women to date in order to get what they're looking for.

I agree there's certainly something unfamiliar with that, and I certainly get a chuckle at this particular execution. But in the bigger picture, I feel bad for those who have been so unsuccessful in love and relationships that they have withdrawn to this particular level of isolation. The path to that sum must certainly have been quite painful.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-02 14:49:02
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Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
volkom said: »

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

That's my only skill in life >.>
We could be twins.

Boricua es muey maricone wey, pero me gusta
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-05-02 14:51:57
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
volkom said: »

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

That's my only skill in life >.>
We could be twins.

Boricua es muey maricone wey, pero me gusta
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-05-02 14:53:06
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oh gawd, wtf did I just read in here
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-02 14:57:40
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Psychologists often say that people are sums of their experiences. If there are men that prefer dolls to actual people for the simple reason "because it's easier", you can certainly be "irked" by that if you choose but you're likely just upset because they have found a way to circumvent the established monopoly women have over sex in relationships. I.E. because they no longer NEED women to date in order to get what they're looking for.

I agree there's certainly something unfamiliar with that, and I certainly get a chuckle at this particular execution. But in the bigger picture, I feel bad for those who have been so unsuccessful in love and relationships that they have withdrawn to this particular level of isolation. The path to that sum must certainly have been quite painful.

Gynophobia.. it exists. I went to school with a guy who was a sexy beast. Women would *** chase him down, and he actually had gynophobia. They knew this and thought it was cute... ***made it worse for him. He even tried to make himself look like ***, and took up weird styles. He was beaten a lot by his mother and older sisters when they were growing up. It was probably as a result to father who left them. I digress, he bought one of those expensive female dolls that look realistic as can be. He isn't gay, (rather he says he has no attraction to males), but he still has sexual needs and is ok with the doll. He also tries to use the doll to cure his fear.

There are reasons people choose to do these sorts of things. You'd be surprised how even your average looking guy who could get a girl would rather not. Not everyone feels they need some one in their life, either through straight or gay preferences, it doesn't matter. Relationships sometimes aren't worth the time.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-05-02 14:57:48
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I wonder why it is that we never hear of gay sex dolls. The problem must be wimminz!
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-05-02 14:58:35
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Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
volkom said: »

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

That's my only skill in life >.>
We could be twins.

Boricua es muey maricone wey, pero me gusta
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Sorry I speak mexican so you prolly lost a few IQ points reading that.
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-05-02 15:35:49
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
volkom said: »

Not sayin just all of us should take it like a rape victim and take a *** to the mouth and shutup

That's my only skill in life >.>
We could be twins.

Boricua es muey maricone wey, pero me gusta
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Sorry I speak mexican so you prolly lost a few IQ points reading that.
Yeah spanish in Mexico and spanish in Puerto Rico have their differences.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-05-02 17:04:44
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The game is from Japan. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if it were intentional. I've gone so far as to speculate about Vanille, and the intent behind her design, myself.

Plenty of games have a character that is overtly sexual as a "gift" to teens the game is marketed to. Humans have been playing up the naughty bits of one another for centuries so why are we acting as if it's some relatively new action? ***, go check out some greek pottery or statues from around the world and they'll have titties and penises all exaggerated from what reality truly holds.

It's a fantasy. An ideal that can never be truely reached (it exists in the imagination afterall) but is worth expressing none the less.

When women begin to work on more video game projects we'll no doubt see the influence of sexually active women on the male characters that grace titles they create.

tl;dr - It's not only Japan.
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2012-05-02 17:37:56
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Mainly yongsters hmmm...? Well for one.. kids are a different subject than adults... Adults should be able to get whatever sex toy they want and use it on themselves or others in a consensual environment... I don't get why you feel the need to look down on someone who has a sex doll as opposed to a vibrator. It's their personal and private life and I don't understand why you think you have a say in that lol...

I'm not looking down on them, its their buisness, but at start somes didn't mind to be interviewed with their 20 dolls "i'm pointing the guy on that picture" he exposed himself to the press, & so us, letting anyone being able to see it. This include youngsters, which will think about the subject differently then a normal adult.
Making them consider the thing "ohh wow so if i don't have a g/f i could get that" or even worse "I want a g/f like that!" its the 1st bad point that could result.

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If a child has a sex doll... well I'd be worried about what kind of parenting was going on there lol... As for video game/anime portrayals of women... If your kid can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality then you as a parent have failed them somewhere along the way.

Childs are smart, its not because we're older then them that we'll know everything bout them.
When i was at college somes girls in my classes would hide their cigs in their locker at college so the parents wouldn't find they are smoking.

Being a good parent does not mean you have to spy 24/7 your child or check his stuff every mornings/evening, & when they grow as teenagers its even more difficult to check everything so, because somes of them become distant with their parents, which can be normal since they grow up, you've been passing there, I have, the other idiotic pizzaboy did i assume, we kind of act as rebel a little because we want to feel recognised for our age etc.

After somes childs can act like angels at homes & be the worses *** in college, how will you know ? you're not behind them when they are in classe or outsides with friends. It does not mean that you're a bad parent.

They can say "ohh i'm going to this friend place to sleep" & then the same night they are escorted back by the police to your place because they were in a nightclub at 16 years old.

Its a question of education in the end, but sometimes you do your best for them & sadly they will want to look cool toward the others because they thinks the others are cool, they will want to feel approved as well, & sometimes thoses others cool guys/girls, to look cool they are like "ohh i've been *** for the 1st time yesterday & i'm 12 years old! i'm an adult now" or they smoke weed etc. How will you know about that?

"I'm talking bout case that i have seen, here its quite common annyway." here its France & more the time pass, more this subject tend to be messy..

After don't take that post as a major negation of what you've said, i'm just explaining a side to you, & what can happen. Now try to imagine this + thoses sex toys/Dolls bounced into it? You see my point ?

i dont know of any youngsters that has 5k to waste on a sexdoll
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-02 17:55:45
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
The game is from Japan. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if it were intentional. I've gone so far as to speculate about Vanille, and the intent behind her design, myself.

Plenty of games have a character that is overtly sexual as a "gift" to teens the game is marketed to. Humans have been playing up the naughty bits of one another for centuries so why are we acting as if it's some relatively new action? ***, go check out some greek pottery or statues from around the world and they'll have titties and penises all exaggerated from what reality truly holds.

It's a fantasy. An ideal that can never be truely reached (it exists in the imagination afterall) but is worth expressing none the less.

When women begin to work on more video game projects we'll no doubt see the influence of sexually active women on the male characters that grace titles they create.

tl;dr - It's not only Japan.
You're right, it's not just Japan – but it's Japan.
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By Phoenix.Ladyjazz 2012-05-02 18:22:37
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The element of companionship seems to be more akin to the sex doll than a fleshlight or ***. A cat makes a good companion too... I talk to it, vent about my day, it (usually) does not talk back in any fashion in a human English tongue... depends on how toasted I might get though!

I think that the sex vs companionship with an object that is not human is not so bad. I actually have met someone online and have a good relationship with her, that I hope to advance. She is 8 hours away, so for now I have a chat with my own pussy.

There are also groups around where people take their dolls out for social interaction with other humans as well! Time/Job restraints have kept me from much chance to even meet anyone, male or female, and over the last 20 years my friends have all moved away.

I continue to meet new friends through ffxi and other online games. Still, makes sense that I might like a doll or stuffed animal or a soccer ball named Wilson or a pet to have a lil chat with now and then.

Suppose a love doll, might be better than a vibrator and some other object. Least it is all in one and looks cute. Heck I could even dress it up! LoL
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By Phoenix.Vael 2012-05-02 18:38:55
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I think that dude back there with the bad English has been taught sex education through media and assumes women aren't active sexually.

Women are just as much succubi as us men are hounds for them. Sexual desire works both ways. If you've had any endearing relationship you must know that. In any relationship I've had I feel the interest in sex between partners is pretty much equal. Sometimes I just want to play videogames; the sexism of media doesn't really stay with any level-headed people as soon as they've experienced a relationship or two.

Or if it does then shame on them. There are stupid ppl I guess.
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By Sylph.Kawar 2012-05-08 18:03:41
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the fact that u can buy them now in a 7 eleven now is the fact that is making me laugh,i could understand hearing something like this if it was happening in only japan but here in the us it makes me want to go out and see if it is real now.
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-05-08 19:14:18
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
I wonder why it is that we never hear of gay sex dolls. The problem must be wimminz!
a little late but they do make male sex dolls :x I saw it on HBO XD
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-05-08 19:16:32
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This entire thread really just needs to be wiped clean at this point. Some of these posts are beyond disgusting and inane.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-08 19:40:03
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My goodness the hilarity of this thread...
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By Blazed1979 2012-05-18 19:32:49
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come on FFXIAH forums to read about sex robots, *** and vibrators - how the *** did I read to page 5?!
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-05-18 19:34:27
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Funny how the mods will go crazy at pointless banter but making light of rape is perfectly acceptable.

Okay. Sounds good.

yeah no.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-05-18 20:24:19
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When it works with your partner, it is great. When it does not. It sucks. I have way to much going in my life for a lot of drama. I cut them lose if it is to much. Dated many, many women. But I got a pretty good one now. Going into a relationship is a gamble. You never know if you have a winner. Sadly, most of time. The house wins.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2012-05-18 20:26:06
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It is an odd thing with male/female relationships in this day and age. of course we have the factors of each person having their understanding of the other gender and what general expectations they have. But there is also how things are different. Same gender relationships are common place now, where about 30-40 years ago it was not something you would want to be revealed (I.E. our parent's generation). So the idea of a guy and girl dating has changed to one person dating another (Gender not being the prime factor). So it does get a bit more difficult for people to find who they want to be with. On top of that, we also have this evil sense in our generation of relationships, or we can just say sex as a game to a lot of people, that having it with many partners is some sort of trophy or something to brag about. So a lot of people (A lot of girls for the most part) have this harder time accepting relationships with guys because of it. and on top of the fact that people can date their own gender now without any social issues, further drives away the concept of a male/female relationship, so the idea of having or using self-pleasure devices is also becoming more common place. One last thing Id like to add. Well... some people make an point about those who feel a need to have a relationship may not have self-worth or things of that sense. But we are social creatures, that is how humans have always been. The need to form bonds both on a friendly level and on a more personal level is just how we are built. It is built into us to search for someone to bond with, to start a family and so on. As kids we have our own family to bond with, but as we get older we move away from our family to make our own, and in this day and age, we use our education, money, physical traits and social traits to attract someone to us. The purpose of gaining this person (At some point in our lives) makes us able to push through the tough trials of life (Imagine a world where you worked for just living life, no friends, no relationships, just for your own needs, can you imagine that kind of life?)
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By Odin.Liela 2012-05-18 20:35:18
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Several of my lady friends in high school were forbidden by their parents to have sex. So they explored and experimented with detachable shower heads instead of real boys. They are 'sad, sad creatures who are truly dead inside.' >.>

Ok, ok, snarkiness aside, what business is it of ours what someone else does with their own body for their own pleasure in their own home? Honestly. And what difference does it make if they take their need out on a porn film or into a sock or into a doll? Everyone has needs. Everyone fulfills those needs in their own way. And it's not really anyone else's business.

If my husband ever died (god forbid!) I would probably not get into another relationship, at least not for several years if ever. If I chose to settle my needs with a male doll, that would be my issue. My business. My problem. And it would not make me any less of a person than anyone who has a real partner. And no one else who uses a doll to settle their needs is less of a person than any of the rest of us.
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