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By veddertehtaco 2012-04-26 06:58:35
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what the title says, just looked into the official forums post this a.m.
honestly this is making me wanna come back seeing how this new road map is "fixing" things I had a beef with for the longest time

Thoughts?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-26 07:06:11
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Don't get your hopes up, this is still ffxi we're talking about.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-04-26 07:07:09
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I can absorb adjectives now?
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-04-26 07:09:34
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Jinjo casts Absorb - Adj. on the Tiamat.
Jinjo receives the effect of Orange.

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By veddertehtaco 2012-04-26 07:13:24
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I prefer blue or red myself jinjo and so very (sadly) true austar
oh gg why'd it have to be her
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By Solrain 2012-04-27 23:22:53
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What... in the heck... is an adj?
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By Cerberus.Dizzmal 2012-04-27 23:26:17
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He means and Adjustment
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-27 23:26:23
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By Carbuncle.Enuyasha 2012-04-27 23:27:29
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yea...now we just need Divine Magic FC...but lolPLD, lolWHM, and lolRDM :(
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By Remora.Brain 2012-04-27 23:54:47
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They already said they were just going to remove the decay on absorb-stat spells, and give DRK a Dark Magic Celerity like BLM when they first mentioned these adjustments way back when.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-27 23:56:59
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I totally misread this title...

darks are getting faster ... lawl was like huh o.o?
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2012-04-28 00:04:47
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Carbuncle.Enuyasha said: »
lolWHM

You're probably being sarcastic, but I don't think WHM has been neglected very much lately :p
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By Carbuncle.Enuyasha 2012-04-28 00:17:31
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Bahamut.Raenryong said: »
Carbuncle.Enuyasha said: »
lolWHM
You're probably being sarcastic, but I don't think WHM has been neglected very much lately :p
yes i was :P but i was mainly listing jobs with Divine Magic skill. Its amazing that they are giving DRK "Dark Celerity" and someone said removing the decay on absorbs too! Seems my voidwatch DRK is gunna get some lovin when i land my spells :<

btw: what is Absorb-Adj? cant think of a stat off my head that matches that :<
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-04-28 00:40:25
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Carbuncle.Enuyasha said: »
Bahamut.Raenryong said: »
Carbuncle.Enuyasha said: »
lolWHM
You're probably being sarcastic, but I don't think WHM has been neglected very much lately :p
yes i was :P but i was mainly listing jobs with Divine Magic skill. Its amazing that they are giving DRK "Dark Celerity" and someone said removing the decay on absorbs too! Seems my voidwatch DRK is gunna get some lovin when i land my spells :<

btw: what is Absorb-Adj? cant think of a stat off my head that matches that :<
The title should be "Darks are getting fast cast absorb adjustments". The op shortened adjustments to adj.
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By Carbuncle.Enuyasha 2012-04-28 00:44:15
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Shiva.Galbir said: »
Carbuncle.Enuyasha said: »
Bahamut.Raenryong said: »
Carbuncle.Enuyasha said: »
lolWHM
You're probably being sarcastic, but I don't think WHM has been neglected very much lately :p
yes i was :P but i was mainly listing jobs with Divine Magic skill. Its amazing that they are giving DRK "Dark Celerity" and someone said removing the decay on absorbs too! Seems my voidwatch DRK is gunna get some lovin when i land my spells :< btw: what is Absorb-Adj? cant think of a stat off my head that matches that :<
The title should be "Darks are getting fast cast absorb adjustments". The op shortened adjustments to adj.
thanks :) Moar about these adjustmentz! is it just the decay abolishment?
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By fyreus 2012-04-28 13:50:20
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I can't stand navigating the official forums ~_~ that's probably why i can't find it.
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By Asura.Tigredor 2012-09-03 13:20:07
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So this was supposed to happen by the end of July or something like that if I remember correctly, what ever happened with this?
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2012-09-03 13:41:30
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smn was also supposed to get new avatars by July - august that they then said at the end of August that has been delayed and wasn't gonna happen by august...
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-09-03 14:04:12
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The removal of the decay would be appreciated. I can do a +69~ absorb with nether void with Liberator99/Pavor/Chuparrosa. -69 VIT on a target is good for zergs.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-09-03 14:17:26
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69 is just good in general
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By Sylph.Kawar 2012-09-03 14:55:27
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Remora.Brain said: »
They already said they were just going to remove the decay on absorb-stat spells, and give DRK a Dark Magic Celerity like BLM when they first mentioned these adjustments way back when.
I really do not understand why would they remove the decay,i think if they did that it would be a big mistake.The decay slowly removes the buffs u steal from mobs.So i do not understand why people want it removed the fact that it is there makes things harder and that is good all around.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-09-03 15:23:15
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Sylph.Kawar said: »
Remora.Brain said: »
They already said they were just going to remove the decay on absorb-stat spells, and give DRK a Dark Magic Celerity like BLM when they first mentioned these adjustments way back when.
I really do not understand why would they remove the decay,i think if they did that it would be a big mistake.The decay slowly removes the buffs u steal from mobs.So i do not understand why people want it removed the fact that it is there makes things harder and that is good all around.

Okay they could just double the potency then.

Whatever floats your boat.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-09-03 15:34:53
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Sylph.Kawar said: »
Remora.Brain said: »
They already said they were just going to remove the decay on absorb-stat spells, and give DRK a Dark Magic Celerity like BLM when they first mentioned these adjustments way back when.
I really do not understand why would they remove the decay,i think if they did that it would be a big mistake.The decay slowly removes the buffs u steal from mobs.So i do not understand why people want it removed the fact that it is there makes things harder and that is good all around.
Cause the 1 minute of -20 on a stat is going to make or break a win over the decay to -10~, ive played drk main for years and the only time any absorb spell was useful was absorb-int in the 50 capped cop dragon fight to help sleep stick and nukes not resist

If you want harder, dont bring a sch

Edit: ill admit ive not really used NV for much besides drain, but there arent really any situations that it would make that big a difference, time lost in timed events when you could have put out more dmg in the time it takes to cast than the difference in the 1 minute boost/debuff makes it a lost cause
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-09-03 15:48:20
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Sylph.Kawar said: »
Remora.Brain said: »
They already said they were just going to remove the decay on absorb-stat spells, and give DRK a Dark Magic Celerity like BLM when they first mentioned these adjustments way back when.
I really do not understand why would they remove the decay,i think if they did that it would be a big mistake.The decay slowly removes the buffs u steal from mobs.So i do not understand why people want it removed the fact that it is there makes things harder and that is good all around.
Because it would make the spells marginally useful?

Difficult concept, I know.
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By Asura.Tigredor 2012-09-04 08:50:06
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http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/ffxi/US/2012roadmap.jpg

Found it. Right there between July-August under Job-related updates.
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By Ophannus 2012-10-15 19:50:15
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I don't get why DRKs would need a fastcast trait for dark magic. All dark spells cast pretty damned quickly (1-3 seconds) except for Aspir II which is 5 seconds. Plus there's a bunch of FC pieces for DRK already like AF3 head/Enif Cosciales. Even if it does decay, a 30-40 STR boost that slowly decays is still rather potent I'd think considering people pay millions of gil for just +1 str.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2012-10-15 19:55:42
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Because casting a spell is stopping anywhere from one to three swings. Some weapons or events you just threw away a whole WS, which is kinda silly when all you got in return was ~300HP or +17 STR for 30 seconds.

It's a bit like why Redemption is a sad joke: You use Quietus to get ODD, but then most of that ODD is making up for the lost WS damage of using Quietus.

Opportunity cost.

They had to buff the hell out of DRG's jumps to make them worth the 2 second JA delay, neh?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-10-15 20:05:05
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Short version: Stop posting.

Long version: That's time not spent meleeing. Absorb spells are almost always a straight loss in DPS even with a perfect Fast Cast set. Liberator, Nether Void + stacking delay, or significantly boosting alliance critrate via Absorb-AGI are the biggest gains and it's still pretty marginal, especially when fully buffed. Said Fast Cast set maxes out at 30%, which is far from "a bunch". It's actually pretty pitiful as casters go; only PLD and NIN get less. BLU gets 38% without trait for non-blue spells, 45% for blue spells. WHM, BLM, RDM, BRD, and SCH all cap (80%) -cast time on at least one type of spell. A large part of DRK's magic arsenal is essentially written off because you're better off just putting a dent in the monster's skull the old-fashioned way.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-10-15 20:19:31
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Whats your FC set look like Night?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-10-15 20:25:04
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Perfect set is AF2+2 head, the new FC neck, Loq Earring, Nebula Houppelande +1/FC+5 ACP body, Prolix Ring, and Enif Cosciales. Mine's not that good, but it's getting there.

Granted there's also additional merits into Dark Seal but the problem with that is that it just adds more JA delay. Even if you're 4/5 to get an additional 30% (assuming 1 in DE), you're not breaking even time-wise by using Dark Seal.
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