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 Cerberus.Casp
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By Cerberus.Casp 2012-04-04 08:15:18
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Ya!! I'm Mad Bro!!
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By Carbuncle.Enuyasha 2012-04-04 08:23:30
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Werent there already laws that banned "Internet Bullying"?

First wanting to initiate american aparthide....now wanting to lock up internet people...Arizona, you so sirry
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By Sylph.Akton 2012-04-04 08:26:42
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Lol late april fools? XD thats insane.
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-04-04 08:26:56
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Sounds on par for Arizona / the U.S.

All the gov regulation will just keep adding up & eventually will reach a breaking point.

This will not end well.
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By Daecon 2012-04-04 08:28:34
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...seriously
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-04-04 08:29:04
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My thought on this is surely that if you can say it in real life with no reprucussions, surely saying it on the internet should be exactly the same.

I'm not well versed on American law so I don't know how far freedom of speech carries and how you treat racial, offensive etc comments in a criminal perspective.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-04-04 08:30:38
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The only part that makes sense, "...or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person," is already illegal. Not a very good job, there, Arizona.
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By Carbuncle.Enuyasha 2012-04-04 08:31:09
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
My thought on this is surely that if you can say it in real life with no reprucussions, surely saying it on the internet should be exactly the same. I'm not well versed on American law so I don't know how far freedom of speech carries and how you treat racial, offensive etc comments in a criminal perspective.
we dont prosecute for this stuff unless it directly or indirectly causes harm :< "Fighting Words" is the way to put it i think in a loose legal sense.
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By Sylph.Akton 2012-04-04 08:31:11
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Well real question is, can they enforce extradition, not only that for the rest of the world and the other 49 states will they agree or deny jurisdiction is with in AZ law outside their state.
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-04-04 08:32:49
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
My thought on this is surely that if you can say it in real life with no reprucussions, surely saying it on the internet should be exactly the same.

I'm not well versed on American law so I don't know how far freedom of speech carries and how you treat racial, offensive etc comments in a criminal perspective.

Pretty much everything apart from direct threats are allowed speech.

This stupid crap should get shot down immediately as unconstitutional.

Racist speech is also protected here, although highly discouraged of course.
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-04-04 08:36:12
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Sylph.Akton said: »
Well real question is, can they enforce extradition, not only that for the rest of the world and the other 49 states will they agree or deny jurisdiction is with in AZ law outside their state.

No lol.

I could just see AZ trying to stroll around to other states demanding extradition.

AZ "Hey TX! Turn over your Trolls!"

TX "Hey AZ! GTFO... now"

AZ "okay...."
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By Carbuncle.Enuyasha 2012-04-04 08:41:26
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more than likely if it gets shot down here AZ represenatives and senators will try to get it into constitutional law or some ish...pretty much what they did last time with the whole "Lets make american apartheid"...Y U NO LEARN
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-04-04 08:42:24
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Sylph.Akton said: »
Well real question is, can they enforce extradition, not only that for the rest of the world and the other 49 states will they agree or deny jurisdiction is with in AZ law outside their state.

That's an important question to answer before thousands of bored people start provoking Arizona people into online confrontations.
 
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-04-04 09:16:48
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It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend,

so...would all the spam mail from Canadian "pharmacies" wanting to enhance my penis size fall under this?
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By Sylph.Akton 2012-04-04 09:20:52
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O.o good point, they didn't say if it was only forum or email, what about in game? 8D how far will they reach Texts email chat room forum blog youtube wiki pages. How far will they go? But it has a snowballs chance in hell it passes XD

Also how do you post something online with out a electronic device?
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2012-04-04 09:23:48
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Bismarck.Markas said: »
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It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend,

so...would all the spam mail from Canadian "pharmacies" wanting to enhance my penis size fall under this?

the law will take your penis size into consideration when making that decision.
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By Sylph.Ignignot 2012-04-04 09:39:00
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Odin.Gosuapple said: »
Bismarck.Markas said: »
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It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend,

so...would all the spam mail from Canadian "pharmacies" wanting to enhance my penis size fall under this?

the law will take your penis size into consideration when making that decision.

That actually made me laugh out loud! Well played!
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-04-04 10:00:05
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Odin.Gosuapple said: »
Bismarck.Markas said: »
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It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend,

so...would all the spam mail from Canadian "pharmacies" wanting to enhance my penis size fall under this?

the law will take your penis size into consideration when making that decision.
wont be much to consider then
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-04 10:10:02
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Bismarck.Markas said: »
Odin.Gosuapple said: »
Bismarck.Markas said: »
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It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend,
so...would all the spam mail from Canadian "pharmacies" wanting to enhance my penis size fall under this?
the law will take your penis size into consideration when making that decision.
wont be much to consider then
COLD BLOODED!!
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By Drjones 2012-04-04 10:17:58
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I think we need to just put a blanket freeze on legislation regarding the internet until the entire legislative body is made up of people born in the mid to late 80s. The older generations always seem to not have the understanding required to make responsible decisions regarding the internet.
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By Asura.Ina 2012-04-04 10:22:35
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I'm all for preventing harrassment and bullying but even I can say this is just dumb. There does come a time where you just need to turn your mental chat filters on and ignore it. If people are going to be able to run to the government because some random person commented that their baby was ugly then idk how we can expect our children to grow up with a spine :/
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-04 10:26:42
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Asura.Ina said: »
I'm all for preventing harrassment and bullying but even I can say this is just dumb. There does come a time where you just need to turn your mental chat filters on and ignore it. If people are going to be able to run to the government because some random person commented that their baby was ugly then idk how we can expect our children to grow up with a spine :/
This X1000!!! You just have to laugh off the douches and enjoy the cool folks you meet on online. Just know IRL you could most likely choke them out.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-04-04 10:34:15
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How exactly would they know if someone meant to 'troll' or was just being themselves? "Sorry, you being yourself annoyed that kid over there so we're taking away all your privileges?" How would they know what the 'intent' was?

The thing about trolling on the internet is that it's completely avoidable. If someone is bothering you, you can usually avoid sites they go to, block them, or even just ignore them. The more you simply ignore a person, the less ability they have to tick you off. Or if there's a place where you know you would not fit in well, then don't go there. I don't visit 4chan, even though I know there's some really cool stuff there. Why? Because I don't think I'm tough enough to handle the not-cool parts of 4chan. It's not difficult to evaluate a place, decide whether or not you could handle it, and make a decision to go there or stay away from there.

If people don't even have the common sense to stay away from places harmful to them personally or to ignore people who they think are just trying to get a rise out of them, then I really don't think government involvement is going to help. You just can't fix a lack of common sense.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2012-04-04 10:50:35
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It's not just taking away privileges either:

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Violators could be charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor and face up to 6 months in jail.

Jail time for telling someone they're a *** wad.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2012-04-04 10:50:44
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And just remember, their part of the 'best country in the world'... lol

On another note, this anti bullying crap needs to go away. Now i don't support the act of bullying, but they try to make it sound like its a kid/teen only problem. As if once you hit 18 their is no bullying anymore. 0.o

Its the same in the adult world. Bullying's their. Be it neighbors, government, cooperations/businesses, bosses. Trying to 'removing bullying' from children's lives is only going to make them more vulnerable when they become an adult. (which is probably why cooperations and certain government ppl are getting behind it.)

No bullying at all would be nice, but only targeting half the ppl sure as hell wont work. Its just that 'save the children' rally cry always works better then the 'everyone needs help' one.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2012-04-04 10:52:28
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
I'm all for preventing harrassment and bullying but even I can say this is just dumb. There does come a time where you just need to turn your mental chat filters on and ignore it. If people are going to be able to run to the government because some random person commented that their baby was ugly then idk how we can expect our children to grow up with a spine :/
This X1000!!! You just have to laugh off the douches and enjoy the cool folks you meet on online. Just know IRL you could most likely choke them out.
It's funny that 20 years ago if you had an ugly baby every just thought it, but nobody would say it to your face. The internet just makes it easier to say what they think without fear of repercussion. Yes, people say *** up ***and I think when it comes to kids bullying each other, laws should be more strict. But honestly people put every detail of their life on the internet and expect people to care as much as they do. I don't get it.

You're one of seven billion. Act like it. Lol.

Also, I find people who get offended at every off-color comment annoying. Can we lock them up, too?
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-04 10:52:43
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I guess you can find jerks everywhere. It is up to you if you wish to deal with them or not. For the most part I have met some really nice folks online. But there have been a few I would love to smack some commom courtsey into though.
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-04-04 11:16:13
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
I guess you can find jerks everywhere. It is up to you if you wish to deal with them or not. For the most part I have met some really nice folks online. But there have been a few I would love to smack some commom courtsey into though.

MFW, I realized that everyone is part nice & part jerk.

AZ gonna have to just convert the entire state into a giant prison.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-04 11:18:24
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That law will cost to much to inforce if it passes. Better things to spend the money on,lol!!
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