Meteor Staffs

I'm pretty sure this was discussed weeks ago (For those whom it wasn't already common sense), but to answer your question, no, those are for the most part the only acceptable staffs to Meteor in until SE releases what they call the "Prism Staff", which will have non element specific affinity damage.

Uh, no.

Antares, Flan-smasher, or Grandeur with Avalon-shield as well.
Not staffs but very viable options.

Hmmm, I seem to remember Cemate posting something to that effect on the official forums. I could be wrong though. Either way, the staff itself is just a worthless attempt at lazy people trying to keep up with Trial staffs or using inventory as an excuse not to carry a set of staffs.

Edit: There you go, http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/29095/dev-prism-staff-all-elemental-staves-combined

"Affinity: Magic Attack +2" it doesn't really specify an element so I more or less assumed it will apply to all magic. So I'm not right nor am I wrong, we'll have to see once it's released.

The new plenitas virga should be about on par with a dorje or Shareeravadi +3 for meteor given the strange damage calculation formula. Results would vary of course based on a player's INT to MAB ratio. In case anyone was unaware the formula for meteor is:

(MAB)*floor(INT + Elemental Magic Skill/6)*3.5

For multiple player casts there is an additional modifier on the end that varies by the number of players. The final caster's damage is increased the most and the first caster's the least.

Dont forget the 99 Laev has like 60 MAB.

so dark staff doesnt effect meteor? does it effect comet?

Yup comet is dark affinity.

ehh so...
(MAB)*floor(INT + Elemental Magic Skill/6)*3.5
198(155+440/6)*3.5 = 158,004?

Don't know if I calculated that right but doesn't seem right

MAB is / 100 and you start with a ratio of 1.

(198+100)/100*(155+440/6)*3.5 = 2,378

If that was right, still missing Order of Operations

155 + 440 = 595
595/6 = 99.1666666667 (floor, 99)
99 * 198 = 19602
19602 * 3.5 = 68607


Actually I have nfc how you got 158,004 out of this equation, I must be overlooking something.

Multiplication and division first, then addition and subtraction, that's how he got that huge number.

wait so the panda says 2,378 and the wolf says 68,607 any other animals have input?

I come to the same number as Byrth myself.

(MAB)*floor(INT + Elemental Magic Skill/6)*3.5

Where
MAB = 1+MAB/100
1+198/100 = 2,98

2,98 * floor(155 + 440/6) * 3,5

Panda made the equation and eats shoots and leaves. Panda wins.

If you have 6 people with identical gear casting it, you will do approximately 20x damage. Then there's your innate +10% damage from ES with Laev, putting it out around 52k unresistable damage with a group of 6 perfectly geared Laev BLMs and no magic crit. Magic Crit would get you up around 55k.

2,378 seem like a really low number. Not saying the calc is wrong just that meteor should do more than a tier V

It is what it is, though. Unless they adjusted it between testing and release, that is what it is.

Well, that is the damage from one BLM casting it though.

It, obviously, is designed to be a spell being cast by multiple BLMs in some sort of chain, to enhance it's final damage immensly, as Byrth pointed out already.

On it's own it's rather weak but with some dedicated BLMs, this is really amazing, from what I read.

Monkeynutz said plenitas virga is on par of dorje,depending on the mab,can you be more specific plz? ^^
I just wanted to get a dorje for meteor,since i dont think we will ever seen 6 laev taru blm casting meteor,never gonna happen XD
but i do have a plenitas,if there isnt much difference btw the 2,guess i might just ditch it,tho i thought dorje was best staff,apart the mythic.

Just taking the values from above:
MAB = 198 (assuming with Dorje)
INT = 155
Skill = 440

(1+198/100)*floor(155+440/6)*3,5 = 2378.
(As calculated above)

MAB = 173 (without Dorje)
INT = 175 (with Plenitas)
Skill = 440

(1+173/100)*floor(175+440/6)*3,5 = 2369.

So, for this particular case, dmg isn't too different.
However, you need to put in your own values of INT, MAB and Skill of your Nuking-Set, in order to see how much the two of them are apart.


Edit:
I suppose, I didn't literally answer your question with that.

The reason why both staves aren't too different for this spell is because of the formula it's damage is calculated with.
It is different from the calculation for other spells, like T1-5 etc.

this should be more or less my set,unless improvement i still havent tought about too much,maybe using 2 int rings idk,and i still dont kno if af 3+2 set procs can proc on meteor too.
im taru blm no merit in int,should be like 101 base if i remember.

Well, the formula is really simple enough to just put in the numbers there yourself and read up the values from your char/gear.^^
Plus, you can always check it again if you change gear or get more buffs, such as INT+ through Braver's and/or spells/food.

However, when I use just your gear and BLM's MAB-Trait, Dorje comes out better for me, also when adding more MAB through Ascetic's for example.

It's a difference of 40-60 dmg.

I'm not much of a BLM myself though, so I couldn't think of many more things to take into account and just assumed everything stays the same, apart from Staves.

Hope it's accurate and helps anyway.

No that was Mythic lv99 with my current gear

current gear
Mythic lv95 atm
Valk mab+4 int+4 augment



I didn't add any traits in or atma's just gear and base int

soo my MaB would be 238 with trait

On Midnight Wings outside Jeuno
Single BLM
Meteor with Plenitas Virga: 1744
Meteor with Dorje: 1798

@Nugzkraka - your elemental magic skill from pants are relevant as well... also romanus mixes fairly well with ES. Strophadic Earring beats hecates.