Kony 2012

Because coordinating a foreign military with a questionable human rights record is such a simple and smart exercise.

We go there to stop Kony who is a bad man by our standards but to get to him we'd have to arm, train and/or give money to a military force who could easily turn around and become the next murderers, rapists and child abusers. Sounds great and a productive use of resources and I cant wait for the millions that vanish due to corruption and incompetence.

If we want Kony we'd have to do it ourselves and that means military intervention with America spearheading operations in the region. All for what? To stick our hands in the bees hive that Africa undoubtedly is? To say we 'did the right thing'? There are far more effective ways to 'do the right thing' than playing world police in Africa.

By the way, why can't the Ugandans find and kill this guy themselves? Why must we nose ourselves into a conflict we have no business being in?

SCREW KONY2012!

There I said it. Kony isn't even present in Uganda anymore. This is a campaign to raise more money in which only 30% get put to what it says it's going to?

LOL @ you idiots that donate.

Do you ever review the idiocy you type?

They're not calling for action, dummies, they're calling for you to call for action. You're all so silly.

Financials


From IC Blog
"Since the LRA left Uganda in 2006, Invisible Children has been publicly denouncing their atrocities in DR Congo, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic (CAR), while continuing to work with now-peaceful communities in post-conflict northern Uganda. In September 2011, Invisible Children launched the LRA Crisis Tracker website with the aim of providing high-quality, verified information about LRA attacks in DR Congo, South Sudan, and CAR. A detailed methodology is available on this website that explains how information is collected, verified, and rated in terms of its accuracy and reliability. Every incident that is reported through the Early Warning Radio Network run by Invisible Children’s partner organizations is carefully verified with other actors in DR Congo and CAR before being published to the LRA Crisis Tracker; even after publishing, incidents on the website continue to be modified as—and when—further information becomes available. Each incident is rated according to two criteria, on a scale of 1 to 5: whether an incident has actually occurred, and whether it was committed by the LRA. In this way, Invisible Children is providing concrete data and helping to dispel unfounded rumours about LRA attacks.

We are advocating for the arrest of Joseph Kony so that he can be tried by the International Criminal Court (ICC) as a precedent for future war criminals. The goal of KONY 2012 is for the world to unite to see Kony arrested and prosecuted for his crimes against humanity."


Finally...I can't say it better:

Seriously...what good have YOU done lately?

I really don't think you get it at all. Between this and various other mediums, I'm done typing out rebuttals.

http://roguescholarsociety.blogspot.com/2012/03/stopkony-24-cyber-hours-of-inspiration.html

What good have I done lately?

I used my brain to determine if interfering in a foreign countries affairs really is in the best interest of the people, the nation of Uganda, my nation and all parties that could become involved rather than relying on an emotional response that could lead to unintended consequences and a complication of the problem.

Kony2012 and Machine Gun Preacher


This group has been trying to raise awareness since 2006 but its finally found its medium with the Kony2012 campaign. Let it be.

Izzy, grab some weapons and go to Africa.

A man as smart as you knows that a child killer like Kony stands no chance against a man as smart as you.

A man as smart as you knows that you are the only one who can make a difference and a man as smart as you knows that it is your duty to enforce your will upon others.

As always, England prevails.

what?
1) female not male and over 50 yrs old. If anything I would be helping in the schools, not fighting.
2) American not British
3) you're obviously a craven, or a dumbarse...or both

So who should do the fighting

I like her opinion.

effing win

SERIOUSLY? She thinks that the 8500 deaths in Syria is more extreme than the 30,000+ abductions/mutilations/rapes/deaths that happened in her own country??? I think SHE needs educated. It sounds like she is from an affluent family from Uganda that never had to worry about Kony or the LRA. I swear if she flipped her hair once more I was gonna scream...

IC says
You all are hopeless. I'm done here.

Does it matter what the goal is if they don't have a practical way of accomplishing it?

im just wondering where all you bleeding hearts were when all this started years ago.

hmm, let's see...26 years ago I was working, married and raising a son and pregnant with another. There was no internet like today. There was no 'movement' to bring a war criminal to justice, no history of his violence to come. I was most probably living the American dream with my head up my arse...

but what has that got to do with NOW?

In this thread, people who got all their facts for hating Kony from one or two websites vs people who got all their facts about hating Invisble Children from one or two websites.

Western interference is bad, 5m died in the Congo after Bill Clinton got involved. so no i dont support this movement at all. plus there's no talk of the United Nations in all this, just some pandering to a president who should sort his own back garden out first.

I hardly call ten++ sources "one or two."

same

That chart of financials still say 37 cents of every dollar goes to aid, and 26 cents goes to awareness, if that can be considered aid. at best its 63 cents of every dollar goes to aid, which is stretching it, because awareness probably is synonymous with group advertising. 37 cents goes to administration fees, which is a huge portion compared to other charities.

Well, you've pulled all your information from the same website so I don't think you can really cling to this.

also, i think you're confused here izzy. i don't thank that anyone (who isnt trolling), is saying that what has happened in Uganda is insignificant or that kony shouldn't face justice at some point.

They're saying the kony 2012 video is a well designed piece of marketing that has a poor action plan for American foreign policy and for Uganda and others in the region. And there are better charities to support.

as a awareness raiser, something like 12th times the charm, but they did do good by bringing attention to an issue.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KLVY5jBnD-E#!

Right now all across various regions of Africa conflict is raging. Do you suggest we interfere in all of them? What about the poor children in Somalia starving to death daily? Should we kill all the warlords who stand between international food aid and those poor children?

Emotion is well and good but you're coming up short on an action plan here. What do you suggest we do? Kill Kony and make sure nothing happens on the ground? Afghanistan II: Electric Boogaloo?

I love when people bring up children as if they were either 1. a burden upon themselves that they couldn't prevent and/or 2. a benevolent gift to all of the world.

In the first case, it was preventable and completely unnecessary(strict use of the word necessity) to have a child. In the second case, we're looking at a population of nearly 7 billion people so you'd be hard pressed to convince me that it was an outstanding contribution to society. Maybe if you said you had adopted your son out of sheer love, otherwise, nope.

Children don't ask to be born so don't act as if they're a burden.

Who cares if she flips her hair. She's in front of a camera. Some people care about how they look in front of a camera nothing wrong with that.

Anyways, I don't think its fair to assume she's affluent, and therefore, secluded from the real traumas of society. While she does denounce supporting IC, she specifically mentions other needs in Africa such as AIDS, as well as donating, to legitimate non-pros like Amnesty Intl. How is that bad?

I never said nor implied either. The one person asked what I was doing when all Kony's killing started. That's what I was doing. Of my own free will...intentionally...and happily. I don't have to convince you of diddly so crawl back under your rock.