Mass Effect 3 Arrival

There's a lot of concepting done for Tali (Without Helmet on), but they didn't finalize anything.

Literally, in an interview done (I can't find citation, lost in Bioware Social Network) they chose "Tali" by throwing a bunch of photos on a table and finding one they all agreed on.

I was actually hoping Tali was going to turn out to be some horrible tentacle monster nobody would want to have their *** sharing the same star cluster with. But I'm a cynical ***.

Fun fact: Tali was also supposed to be a Lesbian romance option, but Liz Sroka refused to do the dialog for it.

Your right, it is better if you do not think about it, but as it's been stated, how can you NOT ask what happened to your team mates? Also what ticked me off was, the take back of earth mission was utter nonsense. Let me tell you my reasons.

Theres not one choice in the franchise that effects anything of the outcome, it's not hard to do, you could of just said to the catalyst fk u, no way and just sit there and watch the war. Or when Harbinger attacks your troops, the rachni queen (pressuming you save her) could charge in and buy some time.

So many different possibilities were available, and i think i know why the ending happened the way it did. Bioware had plans, there was a bossfight with TiM, as well as Harbinger, there is dialouge with Anderson that has been cut out, there was a source of evidince indicating that Bioware wanted more time but EA didn't give it to them, and when their planned ending was leaked, they had to come up with a total new one in 2 months. If you look at the forum link i posted and read it (especially the images) you will see clear signs of how rushed the ending was due to duplicate scenes.

As i said, the game is amazing, don't get me wrong. I planned to play it again on insanity and have different members live through ME2, but none of it matters, important character roles like Mordin are soon replaced by normal characters. WTF I say to that? I'd rather Bioware make a patch rather then DLC, the patch could easily remove this absurde ending.

Don't let the ending stop you from playing this masterpiece, everything about this game is outstanding, I thought the combat system couldn't improve, and it vastly has. The fmv clips are very emotional, especially Grunts, Mordins and Legions. Thanes too!

If you get time, i'd recomend the Angry Review on youtube by Joe i think? He sums up everything 100% of what the ending is, and how it should have been.

If anyones up to date with the indoctrination theory, then you'd understand how it fits in with the ending, if not, i advise you look on youtube or read the forum link i posted!

One more thing, only read it if you've seen the ending(s)

You can see the features of her face through the mask. so its obvious she wasnt a zoidberg. but i think they executed it poorly.

At least Armored Core V comes out tomorrow...

I'm looking forward to resident evil raccoon city.

Shiiiiiiit friend and I just came up with a better ending for ME3 than Bioware did by complete accident.

her-->What if two Ardat Yakshis hook up
me->Universe implodes.

I came up with a better ending than Mass Effect 3.


But then I flushed.

You guys are making it out to be worse than it actually was. Looking at it normally yeah its the worst ending ever to be concieved. But that's because we have no closure, we have no idea what Bioware were smokign when they did this. But as i said many times, just like many others have said. If the indoctrination theory proves true, it opens up the door to another game, ME4, or a huge DLC that wraps up the story from when you see the supposed Shepard taking a breath, provided you had enough points and chose the correct option. People who haven't played the game shouldnt let talk about the ending stop them from doing so, the game is still a masterpiece, regardless of the terrible ending

Call me crazy but I'm really not all upset about the ending.

Sure, you don't get to pick what happens, but it wouldn't really
matter if you did.

I guess I just don't see the point in getting upset over something that's over.

InB4 QQ we should have to pay for story dlc QQ.

If they were going to make a DLC and that is what the end is telling us then great! if not then they better reconsider. and it better have Tali on her home planet naked waiting for my sheperds staff,

I agree except for the fact that theres no closer. I'm fine with everything else but i would like a wrap up. I will be playing long hours to make sure everyone lives... I would like to know what they do with that gift i gave them tyvm.

I'm mostly upset with the fact that nothing I did during the game or the previous two games had even an inkling of bearing on my ending.

I haven't really looked much into Bioware's response, even if it is simply a low maintained group of PR associates trying to smother the flames and hope this eventually tides over.
But the most disappointing thing aside from exactly what Prothescar just mentioned, is the shameless gloating of DLC carrying out the future of this franchise. I would have been happier to have a crappy ending, taken it for what it was worth with a big THE END with a black screen. But this sums up my anger well.

You're crazy.



It's not about it being a Terrible ending, most games have bad endings, hell, most movies have bad endings.

It's about what the ending does to Mass Effect as a whole. It dismantles 3 games worth of lore, plot and consequence, and replaces it with a shitty Deux Ex Machina that provides zero closure. Even more than that, it's how badly it contrasts with the rest of the game. It's like they outsourced the last 10 minutes to EA DLC pushing branch in Dumbfuckistan.

I forgot to mention that, sorry lol. Thats what most people are upset about more than anything. It's whats caused loads of players to claim the game as non replayable. This whole poor ending etc is all EA's fault mainly.

Btw did anyone feel that there wasn't enough team member dialouge in the Normandy? In ME2 after every mission or assignment you could go talk to them with the option wheel for your response. In this one theres like only 5 or 6 crew members and half the time there just talking out in the open to you which sucks. I really liked the interaction between crew members and shepard

Operation: Goliath was a success.

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/19/operation-goliath-success-2/

So much for 'Holding the Line!' from the ME fanbase -_- We killed 3 times as many required

Not enough Team Member Dialog? I think there was actually more than the other two games. Some of it didn't occur through "Dialog Wheel" though.

I'm throwing a lot of Bile at Mass Effect 3, but the rest of the game was really great. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but wow, Tuchanka, and Wow, Rannoch.

Also, the Normandy felt a lot more alive, with people moving around, and not just hanging out in the same area forever. And the new Health System, seriously, how perfect of a compromise between "Shooter" and "RPG" was that? Brilliant!


I actually love the Multiplayer, but I can't renew my gold anymore for some reason. I get Error 809311 or something. I hope a gold card works, Armored Core V without Online doesn't sound too interesting.

I may have phrased it wrong, but i meant there was no dialog wheel chat as much as ME2 in the Normandy. Much more of it was open. And i totally agree, the ship felt more alive as everyone moved about but i prefered the look of the SR2.

Zicdeh is right, the game is amazing even though a lot of hate has been thrown at it, when i saw the Tuchanka scene i nearly jumped outta my chair lol. Very emotional scenes, Bioware got the cinematics and OST perfect.

And dont get me wrong, i totally love the multiplayer, cept that it has to be used to up your chances (who cares?) all i meant was, alot of fans are rebelling til something is done yet they are completing challenges?

That's a general problem all over Mass Effect 3. A lot of the dialog is "Auto selected" now. A minor issue, nothing I'd get riled up over, but something I'd mention.


Again, this is what made the ending so goddamned painful... They had moments of unparalled narrative pay off, building up through three whole games. And at the crescendo: Wuts ur faverit colur dawg?



It's complicated. We already gave EA the money for the game, but if they want DLC to be in their fiscal projections, they're ***out of luck.

There will be enough stupid sheep that will buy the DLC. I myself plan on being a scurvy dog about it though. They've got enough of my money between this and the shithole that was Dragon Age 2.

Totally agree but i don't think the dialog was auto selected to a drastic amount, just towards the end and where it had changed in places like in the Normandy.

One thing that really annoyed me a lot though is that all your team mates on Earth (the last mission), all/majority talk about what they plan to do after they accomplish their mission, IF they accomplish it. Like Garrus talks about retirement, Javik talks about writing that book. Theres more but im not ruining it, all of that was very well written yet.. WHERE IS ALL THE CLOSURE ON THIS EPIC DIALOUGE? Bioware showed they could of made an epic ending, they probobly had one ready until it leaked, if you've seen the Tuchunka scenes, or the Rannoch scene, even Grunts cinematic, you can clearly see they had the capabilities.

I actually hope they make a patch rather than DLC. The dlc might not be free, but with a patch they could just rewrite the ending

Well, if the rumors are true, and the first post-release DLC is "Take Back Omega", I'd buy it... Assuming Aria T'loak is featured prominently. (Why wouldn't she be?)



Oh man, I played Femshep with Garrus Romance and that last scene hit me like a sack full of dead puppies in concrete.

Just another one of those amazing moments ruined because the ending makes less than no sense.

Haven't heard of that DLC, only one i've heard about is 'The Truth' which is meant to be the real ending.

And has anyone else heard the missing dialog between Shepard/Anderson?

Just found a quick link about 'The Truth', bolded parts are good, suppost to be free blah blah
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/03/16/rumor-mass-effect-3-story-dlc-the-truth-arriving-in-april

Virtually disproven, since the word "Free" doesn't exist in EA's universe. (There was seriously plans on the table for them to microcharge for Ammo in Battlefield 3)

If it actually is the ending we've been promised, i'd gladly pay for it. Then i can happily replay every ME and change up everything.

Anyways im off for now.

First off: Can someone please link me to the leaked ending that made them rewrite it? I really don't want to filter through all the BS.

Secondly:
You're crazy.

Lastly: I've dealt with bad eggs in a series before. The Matrix was horrible, the first two star wars were pathetic, I only like a few of the Civ games, the list could go on and on. This is the first and only time a single event in one game has retroactively ruined the entire series for me, and that pisses me off beyond belief. So no, it isn't just because the ending was bad, it's because it was so bad it has made me hate everything it stood for.

Lastlier: I agree, the game was so good and (it seemed) longer and more in depth than the previous two. This just added to the disappointment.

There is no real footage of the real ending just leaked scripts and boss fights, I will find it tomorrow for ya when in in college just doing work ATM so yah

Thanks Zey I'll bug you if you don't follow through :).