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 Asura.Draus
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By Asura.Draus 2012-02-04 17:01:07
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What happend to stunning RDM/DRK?
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By Chyula 2012-02-04 17:01:29
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*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.

what that have to do with lack of content? and that is not adjustment to rdm, it is just adjusting the monster. It still don't justify something can fix in a few days and release in a few months duration and call it new contents.
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By Siren.Smokinskull 2012-02-04 17:15:42
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Chyula said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.

what that have to do with lack of content? and that is not adjustment to rdm, it is just adjusting the monster. It still don't justify something can fix in a few days and release in a few months duration and call it new contents.

Hmmm, Maybe your right. What did you do come to this game abyssea burn all your jobs and finish out VW? Well if thats the case let me update you on the content in the game.... Rank Missions, Zilart, CoP, WoTG, ACP. There is a bunch of content in the game, and if you are one of those people who has finished all of that then you have a place to complain. But Until you have completed those dont ask for more content when you havent started the first part and logged on and jump immediately to abyssea. Something else you are partly right about this isnt a adjustment for rdm even tho RDM has an A+ in enfeb. What this means is my jobs with many others who can decently enfeeb will again have a purpose and be able to work more efficiently to make sure people like you once again dont get possibly one shotted. You know like one person stated inst gravIV and the an nasty aoe which sleeps and nearly kills you. Paralyzes and slows help so there is more time to stop these things retard. Im not here to flame you Im tellin you to come correct son when you post on these forums.
 
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By Siren.Smokinskull 2012-02-04 17:26:03
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Asura.Patriclis said: »
Time to go cap healing magic skill XD

Lol Im almost there.
 
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-04 17:33:00
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Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.

what that have to do with lack of content? and that is not adjustment to rdm, it is just adjusting the monster. It still don't justify something can fix in a few days and release in a few months duration and call it new contents.

Hmmm, Maybe your right. What did you do come to this game abyssea burn all your jobs and finish out VW? Well if thats the case let me update you on the content in the game.... Rank Missions, Zilart, CoP, WoTG, ACP. There is a bunch of content in the game, and if you are one of those people who has finished all of that then you have a place to complain. But Until you have completed those dont ask for more content when you havent started the first part and logged on and jump immediately to abyssea. Something else you are partly right about this isnt a adjustment for rdm even tho RDM has an A+ in enfeb. What this means is my jobs with many others who can decently enfeeb will again have a purpose and be able to work more efficiently to make sure people like you once again dont get possibly one shotted. You know like one person stated inst gravIV and the an nasty aoe which sleeps and nearly kills you. Paralyzes and slows help so there is more time to stop these things retard. Im not here to flame you Im tellin you to come correct son when you post on these forums.
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      • A Shantotto Ascension

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    • Crystal War
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    • Limbus
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    • Voidwatch

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  • Quests

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    • some job related quests
    • Spell scroll quests

  • 1% of Salvage

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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-04 17:33:30
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I suspect this bonus will be similar to the Ninjutsu bonus they added a while back. So higher tier Cures will benefit from higher Healing Magic skill, but your potency bonus for Cure II is likely to be capped by the level 60 skill cap or something.

Also, lol@that chart Kalilla. Sadly accurate.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-02-04 17:35:15
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There is actually still situational gear that comes from a lot of the older content. That list isn't exactly accurate.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-04 17:36:03
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
There is actually still situational gear that comes from a lot of the older content. That list isn't exactly accurate.
Close enough, nothing is needed from it that would break you. Not even CoP anymore.
 
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-02-04 17:53:15
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So....will requiem actually have purpose again?
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2012-02-04 18:04:40
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I totally capped Healing Magic for WHM last night, I am soooo happy now haha.
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By Siren.Smokinskull 2012-02-04 18:13:23
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.

what that have to do with lack of content? and that is not adjustment to rdm, it is just adjusting the monster. It still don't justify something can fix in a few days and release in a few months duration and call it new contents.

Hmmm, Maybe your right. What did you do come to this game abyssea burn all your jobs and finish out VW? Well if thats the case let me update you on the content in the game.... Rank Missions, Zilart, CoP, WoTG, ACP. There is a bunch of content in the game, and if you are one of those people who has finished all of that then you have a place to complain. But Until you have completed those dont ask for more content when you havent started the first part and logged on and jump immediately to abyssea. Something else you are partly right about this isnt a adjustment for rdm even tho RDM has an A+ in enfeb. What this means is my jobs with many others who can decently enfeeb will again have a purpose and be able to work more efficiently to make sure people like you once again dont get possibly one shotted. You know like one person stated inst gravIV and the an nasty aoe which sleeps and nearly kills you. Paralyzes and slows help so there is more time to stop these things retard. Im not here to flame you Im tellin you to come correct son when you post on these forums.
Content in FFXI

  • Missions

    • Nations
      • Bastok
      • San d'Oria
      • Windurst
    • Expansions
      • Zilart
      • Promathia
      • Aht Urhgan
      • Wings of the Goddess
    • Add-Ons
      • A Crystalline Prophecy
      • A Moogle Kupo d'Etat
      • A Shantotto Ascension

  • Quests

    • Cities
      • Bastok
      • San d'Oria
      • Windurst
      • Jeuno
      • Aht Urhgan
    • Outlands
    • Crystal War
    • Abyssea
      • Vision
      • Scars
      • Heros

  • Activities

    • Crafting & Synergy & Fishing
    • Hobbies
      • Harvesting
      • Excavation
      • Logging
      • Mining
      • Chocobo Digging
      • Gardening
      • Clamming
    • Adventuring Fellow NPCs
    • Chocobo Raising
    • Chocobo Racing
    • Moblin Maze Mongers
    • Pankration
    • Trial of the Magians

  • Battle Systems

    • Abyssea
    • Assault
    • Battlefields
      • ANNM
      • BCNM
      • ENM
      • ISNM
      • SCNM
      • Walk of Echoes
      • KCNM
      • HKCNM
    • Besieged
    • Campaign
    • Ballista & Brenner
    • Dynamis
    • Einherjar
    • Fields of Valor
    • Garrison
    • Grounds of Valor
    • Limbus
    • Moblin Maze Mongers
    • Salvage
    • Voidwatch

  • Other

    • Notorious Monsters
    • Exploring?


Content that Matters

  • Abyssea

  • Voidwatch

  • Crafting & Synergy & Fishing

  • Dynamis

  • Grounds of Valor

  • Quests

    • Unlocking Subjob and level break quests...
    • some job related quests
    • Spell scroll quests

  • 1% of Salvage

  • Trial of the Magians

  • Battlefields

    • KCNM
    • HKCNM
    • lolWalk of Echoes
    • 2% of KSNM


Content that matters to you.
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By Siren.Smokinskull 2012-02-04 18:14:02
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Asura.Patriclis said: »
Chyula said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.

what that have to do with lack of content? and that is not adjustment to rdm, it is just adjusting the monster. It still don't justify something can fix in a few days and release in a few months duration and call it new contents.

For one I wouldn't take Chyula's posts to seriously he's known for being a major troll ( most people I know simply Blisted him since he's that annoying)

That being said, to someone who's studying/studied game design (I'm talking legitimate schooling, not googling it for 5 minutes) I can tell you that it takes a lot of time and effort into making sure things are properly balanced before SE can release a patch. They don't just look at something and say "oh i think we'll tamper with that today"

As for new content, we're getting some in the new patch (see legion) so I really don't know what you're complaining about. Frankly a game with 20 different jobs is going to undergo constant balance tweaks and it's always going to be needed. Especially since when things are changed people are going to find a new way to break things, it's what gamers do. And it's up to SE to fix those errors so that the game is re-balanced at least for a little while.

As for the idea that they're trying to make 99 like 75, well duh. 75 was a well balanced point in the game with 8 or so years of development behind it, it was solid. 99 is pretty broken as it stands and it's going to take a fair amount of tweaking for SE to bring it to that balanced state that 75 was in where fights are challenging and most of the jobs have something to bring to the table (Whereas right now nearly anything can be done with just MNKs, WHMs, and BLMs.)

At this rate that where im headed lol.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-04 18:33:46
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Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
Siren.Smokinskull said: »
Chyula said: »
*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.

what that have to do with lack of content? and that is not adjustment to rdm, it is just adjusting the monster. It still don't justify something can fix in a few days and release in a few months duration and call it new contents.

Hmmm, Maybe your right. What did you do come to this game abyssea burn all your jobs and finish out VW? Well if thats the case let me update you on the content in the game.... Rank Missions, Zilart, CoP, WoTG, ACP. There is a bunch of content in the game, and if you are one of those people who has finished all of that then you have a place to complain. But Until you have completed those dont ask for more content when you havent started the first part and logged on and jump immediately to abyssea. Something else you are partly right about this isnt a adjustment for rdm even tho RDM has an A+ in enfeb. What this means is my jobs with many others who can decently enfeeb will again have a purpose and be able to work more efficiently to make sure people like you once again dont get possibly one shotted. You know like one person stated inst gravIV and the an nasty aoe which sleeps and nearly kills you. Paralyzes and slows help so there is more time to stop these things retard. Im not here to flame you Im tellin you to come correct son when you post on these forums.
Content in FFXI

  • Missions

    • Nations
      • Bastok
      • San d'Oria
      • Windurst
    • Expansions
      • Zilart
      • Promathia
      • Aht Urhgan
      • Wings of the Goddess
    • Add-Ons
      • A Crystalline Prophecy
      • A Moogle Kupo d'Etat
      • A Shantotto Ascension

  • Quests

    • Cities
      • Bastok
      • San d'Oria
      • Windurst
      • Jeuno
      • Aht Urhgan
    • Outlands
    • Crystal War
    • Abyssea
      • Vision
      • Scars
      • Heros

  • Activities

    • Crafting & Synergy & Fishing
    • Hobbies
      • Harvesting
      • Excavation
      • Logging
      • Mining
      • Chocobo Digging
      • Gardening
      • Clamming
    • Adventuring Fellow NPCs
    • Chocobo Raising
    • Chocobo Racing
    • Moblin Maze Mongers
    • Pankration
    • Trial of the Magians

  • Battle Systems

    • Abyssea
    • Assault
    • Battlefields
      • ANNM
      • BCNM
      • ENM
      • ISNM
      • SCNM
      • Walk of Echoes
      • KCNM
      • HKCNM
    • Besieged
    • Campaign
    • Ballista & Brenner
    • Dynamis
    • Einherjar
    • Fields of Valor
    • Garrison
    • Grounds of Valor
    • Limbus
    • Moblin Maze Mongers
    • Salvage
    • Voidwatch

  • Other

    • Notorious Monsters
    • Exploring?


Content that Matters

  • Abyssea

  • Voidwatch

  • Crafting & Synergy & Fishing

  • Dynamis

  • Grounds of Valor

  • Quests

    • Unlocking Subjob and level break quests...
    • some job related quests
    • Spell scroll quests

  • 1% of Salvage

  • Trial of the Magians

  • Battlefields

    • KCNM
    • HKCNM
    • lolWalk of Echoes
    • 2% of KSNM


Content that matters to you.
Was just making your point clear, but w/e you can disagree.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-02-04 18:35:37
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You edited it, I disagree!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-02-04 18:41:17
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Phoenix.Darkzeru said: »
So....will requiem actually have purpose again?

It's always had purpose. It's there to have its macro accidentally hit and annoy people trying to sleep the mob! ^^
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By Cerberus.Ica 2012-02-04 19:36:46
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Phoenix.Darkzeru said: »
So....will requiem actually have purpose again?

It had a purpose once? O.o
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-04 19:40:45
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Soloing worms in Qufim for mad EXP yo.
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By Siren.Delirium 2012-02-04 20:17:28
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Sam could use polearm and earn like 100 TP per ws with a cor basically from what I've heard and then ws constantly.

I remember when this was actually possible prior to the change of TP gain from WSs to Normal 1st hit TP return and 1 for each additional
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By Asura.Psubond 2012-02-04 21:50:18
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Asura.Draus said: »
What happend to stunning RDM/DRK?

cause we can stun as /blm now and /blm offers more as a sub than drk
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By Shiva.Falseliberty 2012-02-05 09:53:54
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can you get skill ups by casting cure on undead? and if so what would be the best place to do this at 99? I wanna at least get rdm capped maybe whm
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-05 10:05:04
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This is the first and only FF game where dev team wants you to feel weak at max lvl still lol we should be smoking everything in game but no kuftal crabs still aggro us
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dark age of camelot
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2012-02-05 16:36:08
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volkom said: »
dark age of camelot

Was the only thing I played for years until I decided to finally try out FFXI, amazing game.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-02-05 17:03:59
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Phoenix.Bomber said: »
This is the first and only FF game where dev team wants you to feel weak at max lvl still lol we should be smoking everything in game but no kuftal crabs still aggro us

And when it aggros...do you just stand there and die? No, you tear its face off.... Aggressive monsters in the wild? Especially in dark dank caves like Kuftal Tunnel? For Shame SE for adding lore to mobs and giving them actual behavior patterns!
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