[Dev] Battle Balance Adjustments
[Dev] Battle Balance Adjustments
RDM soloing was actually hard and required skill. BST soloing now is super easy since jug pets are boss these days. BST solo was only hard at 75 cap when you had to charm/leave/charm stuff and jug pets were weak with low HP. These days you can throw a Yuly or Falcorr or Nuzana on something and they hit really hard and do incredible damage and have 4k+ HP and they do all the work.
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So this makes save tp worse overall then? (even for dw/h2h?).
From what I understand if you had 40 save tp and I had a 14 tp return ws, I'd get 54 tp
But now I'd just get 40?
From what I understand if you had 40 save tp and I had a 14 tp return ws, I'd get 54 tp
But now I'd just get 40?
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
So this makes save tp worse overall then? (even for dw/h2h?).
From what I understand if you had 40 save tp and I had a 14 tp return ws, I'd get 54 tp
But now I'd just get 40?
From what I understand if you had 40 save tp and I had a 14 tp return ws, I'd get 54 tp
But now I'd just get 40?
yes, at least that is what we are all taking from it.
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I hope not. Solo'ing red mages in the old days are only slightly less annoying than solo'ing beastmasters modern day, and they were 10x more pretentious.
Edit: sorry if I'm starting a flame war saying that. I just remember a lot of the "really awesome" red mages back in the day being really, really, really god damn snobby about being able to cast bio and run around in a circle for hours on end.
Edit: sorry if I'm starting a flame war saying that. I just remember a lot of the "really awesome" red mages back in the day being really, really, really god damn snobby about being able to cast bio and run around in a circle for hours on end.
Just sayin'. That's what I remember.
Through history's tinted lenses.
I don't remember many RDM soloers being pretentious about it.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
So this makes save tp worse overall then? (even for dw/h2h?).
From what I understand if you had 40 save tp and I had a 14 tp return ws, I'd get 54 tp
But now I'd just get 40?
From what I understand if you had 40 save tp and I had a 14 tp return ws, I'd get 54 tp
But now I'd just get 40?
Precisely
Ophannus said: »
RDM soloing was actually hard and required skill.]
I disagree. But I don't want to entirely derail the thread, so I will leave it as saying agree to disagree. It's not something I'm interested in debating; sorry I brought it up. Drinking and reading game updates is a bad mix.
On topic: I dislike the Save TP change. But probably because my two main jobs are samurai and corsair and both benefit in a ridiculously unfair way from the way Save TP works right now. But it's a change with which I can live.
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I don't remember many RDM soloers being pretentious about it.
I do, but it could just be the people I know. Though I admit I could be lumping them in with the rdm tank crowd too, which included some of the same folks, but not all. Again. Of the people I know.
Let's just say the ones -I- knew were and soured me on the whole thing.
Carbuncle.Sanders said: »
... Does this mean I'll be able to land absorbs on Uptala (when it's fking extremely vulnerable dark black magic) even though it's undead?
hey look! Sandspray might land too! DRK blu is aaaaalways sandspray. SIGH.
This is how they plan to start making a strategic battle! Now that the mob can maaaybe be silenced, slept, para'd you might survive the 100 fist no delay attack/instaTPmove(with reduced aoe effect)/instacast gaIV before you do 1 action...long enough to actually iunno, tank the fight through vs trigger lock/tempitem or wipe approach.
Asura.Echandra said: »
Carbuncle.Sanders said: »
... Does this mean I'll be able to land absorbs on Uptala (when it's fking extremely vulnerable dark black magic) even though it's undead?
hey look! Sandspray might land too! DRK blu is aaaaalways sandspray. SIGH.
This is how they plan to start making a strategic battle! Now that the mob can maaaybe be silenced, slept, para'd you might survive the 100 fist no delay attack/instaTPmove(with reduced aoe effect)/instacast gaIV before you do 1 action...long enough to actually iunno, tank the fight through vs trigger lock/tempitem or wipe approach.
I do hope they make this right. Extreme BLM and only being able to land absorbs w/ Dark Seal -- if at all -- sucks.
So basically what I'm gathering the save tp calculation is now max(save tp, ws tp) rather than save tp + ws tp.
Well, bye bye chain gun corsair wildfire then...
Well, bye bye chain gun corsair wildfire then...
never forget.
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*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
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Meh... I'd kinda like to be able to use my rdm and sch again. It'll be nice for things to have a bit more "balance" to them.
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Can we go back to cure bombing for 4-5 digits?
can we just do something with Tanaka?
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Yes! Let's BALANCE Tanaka ! ! !
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Thy shall not spell BALANCE without capital letters.
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Odin.Sheelay said: »
Yes! Let's BALANCE Tanaka ! ! !
we can make a political statement at the same time and make him balance on a plank (pirate joke)
I'm hopeful for the enfeebling and healing magic updates.
In light of the WS-TP Adjustment, does this devalue OAT Great Sword for Reso spam at all?
In light of the WS-TP Adjustment, does this devalue OAT Great Sword for Reso spam at all?
Fare thee well Miser's roll. It has been a great pleasure to work with you for the past months.
Well hello there lv 75 buff style. The level cap increase never happened, it was all an illusion.
Well hello there lv 75 buff style. The level cap increase never happened, it was all an illusion.
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »
I'm hopeful for the enfeebling and healing magic updates.
In light of the WS-TP Adjustment, does this devalue OAT Great Sword for Reso spam at all?
In light of the WS-TP Adjustment, does this devalue OAT Great Sword for Reso spam at all?
4/10 krabkatoa shells >:[
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
can we just do something with Tanaka?
can't we just have saw play a game with him?
seriously that guy needs to GTFO of this game
Tanaka gets too little credit.
While you may not have fond memories of the way the game was before, there was obviously something in it you fell in love with or we wouldn't be posting on forums constantly discussing our varying levels of butthurt about that lost love.
But yeah he did go a bit crazy with XIV completely failing and now he's probably out to ruin XI in revenge.
While you may not have fond memories of the way the game was before, there was obviously something in it you fell in love with or we wouldn't be posting on forums constantly discussing our varying levels of butthurt about that lost love.
But yeah he did go a bit crazy with XIV completely failing and now he's probably out to ruin XI in revenge.
Let's not devolve this into whining about soloing BSTs/RDMs or Tanaka. This is for discussion about the update.
Heh, well personally I'm just burnt out at the moment on magian weapons. So I'm just going to go for an Apocalypse instead @_@
The ultimate magian weapon
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Fare thee well Miser's roll. It has been a great pleasure to work with you for the past months.
Well hello there lv 75 buff style. The level cap increase never happened, it was all an illusion.
Well hello there lv 75 buff style. The level cap increase never happened, it was all an illusion.
It's still probably going to be the best roll for vw. 40-45 TP back on ws > 12-20 etc
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »
Heh, well personally I'm just burnt out at the moment on magian weapons. So I'm just going to go for an Apocalypse instead @_@
I don't see it making OaT worse at all. If Anything it should make OaT more ahead of say calad. For Reso Spam compared to other weapons the tp gain is nice.. Especially if you have a pseudo 5 hit going with regain.
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Chyula said: »
*** the adjustment ***, the game is fine the way it is now. SE need to stop with the "adjustment" and "Balance" banner crap, how about invest more time on something that everyone actually give a ***about like add more new contents. SE is very behind on their projection and all they are doing now is nerfing everything and bring level 75 back? How about leave the game alone and just bring out a new expansion.
Sounds like you started playing a year ago. I dont think you understand for RDM's like me who have been playing this game for years. Pre Abyssea/VW I actually had a use other then refresh and haste now finally Im of use again. I might be able to stun a move now or maybe paralyze so people like you dont get one shot anymore.
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