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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-07 20:45:46
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Best way to make TH7+ have more meaning is to actually give it more meaning. No reason for it to have significantly less effect after only the second or third tier.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-07 20:50:26
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Best way to make TH7+ have more meaning is to actually give it more meaning. No reason for it to have significantly less effect after only the second or third tier.

Or just delete THF and call it a day!
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-07 20:51:02
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Best way to make TH7+ have more meaning is to actually give it more meaning. No reason for it to have significantly less effect after only the second or third tier.

Yeah honestly idk exactly what would go into making TH operate in a more balanced fashion. "We thought of redistributing the drop tables" I took to mean that balancing. Honestly though I have no idea was just speculating.
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-07 22:12:51
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The less I have to look at ugly-*** THF gear, the better.

(and because you're going to do it anyway)
Quite mistaken there buddy as Taru THF looks *** awesome
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-07 22:14:55
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Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The less I have to look at ugly-*** THF gear, the better.

(and because you're going to do it anyway)
Quite mistaken there buddy as Taru THF looks *** awesome

No it doesn't. THF gear is and always has been ugly as sin. It is an indisputable mathematical reality.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-07 22:27:33
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Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The less I have to look at ugly-*** THF gear, the better.

(and because you're going to do it anyway)
Quite mistaken there buddy as Taru THF looks *** awesome
Taru's make everything look good!
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-07 22:28:37
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Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The less I have to look at ugly-*** THF gear, the better.

(and because you're going to do it anyway)
Quite mistaken there buddy as Taru THF looks *** awesome
Taru's make everything look good!

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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-07 22:49:02
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The less I have to look at ugly-*** THF gear, the better.

(and because you're going to do it anyway)
Quite mistaken there buddy as Taru THF looks *** awesome
Taru's make everything look good!
Second Whoopi tonight Sylow!
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By esdain 2012-02-08 04:15:31
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SMN will get Cait Sith with TH. Puppetmaster will get a new automaton frame with locked head/body frame parts that is a "Cardian" that will have TH. DRG will be able to choose the job of their wyvern, independently from a simple copy of the DRG's job. When Wyvern is THF job, it will be green and have TH.

I come from three years in the future... to tell you:
1. The above.
2. The world didn't end in December of 2012.
3. ?
4. Profit.
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By Leviathan.Kuryomi 2012-02-08 04:48:26
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not a big deal realy, wont be hard to obtain 1 or 2 of these pet: TH+ /equips. And yah hopfuly will clear out dyna a bit. For sure falcor prices will drop a bit.

on second thought maybe wont help at all with dyna since peolple solo it on dnc also.
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By Phoenix.Esaias 2012-02-08 16:17:04
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Dynamis will remain crowded in spite of the BST nerf. That's where the currency is. So if you are excited to see Bst go just remember greedy people will always be there stealing your mobs. Now the Bst that were not hitting dyna everyday have to show up more to finish relix. WOOT! Let's just nerf all procs. Then everyone can grind their FOREVER!

Edit: grammar
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-08 16:20:09
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im not sure why people think it would change everything. so bsts for the time being may get less coins a run, so what? it's still f*ing free dynamis coins everyday, they'll still be getting 150~ or whatever, which is 1-1.2mil a run here.

it's free, even if one didn't have treasure hunter, they'd be a retard to stop doing dynamis. i don't think there's anything else that makes more than 500-600k/hr solo consistently everyday.


also, less coins in circulation = higher prices = less coins needed to reach the same gil value as when you had th3, though albeit it doesn't equal out, it will still be a little less.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 16:24:33
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
also, less coins in circulation = higher prices = less coins needed to reach the same gil value as when you had th3, though albeit it doesn't equal out, it will still be a little less.

This is what I'm excited about. More $$ for ME. I can outkill BSTs anyway.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-02-08 16:46:00
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Phoenix.Esaias said: »
Dynamis will remain crowded in spite of the BST nerf. That's where the currency is. So if you are excited to see Bst go just remember greedy people will always be there stealing your mobs. Now the Bst that were not hitting dyna everyday have to show up more to finish relix. WOOT! Let's just nerf all procs. Then everyone can grind their FOREVER!

Edit: grammar

I haven't yet had to deal with another job clearing out an entire area at once, only to chip away one at a time off in some corner. Sure, when it's busy, you have to handle waiting for repops and such - I just don't see thieves (or anyone) "fighting" a dozen mobs at one time. On the other hand, it's frustrating, but it's also it's own mini game. If there's something to fight that's not claimed, of course that's my target. If there is no other choice... if it's white, it's alright. Sorry about their luck.

Maybe it's worse on other servers/times, though, I don't know.
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By Ramuh.Shuyn 2012-02-08 20:56:12
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lol for me PUP>BST after next update then.
Tarutaru Sash with TH+1 is free. So is the automaton to recast and heal my *** the entire Dynamis. Also got Vereth on PUP and stupid regain+1 for BST. So totally PUP>BST. I wonder if i should still buy Twilight Mail...
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2012-02-09 00:41:56
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By mortontony1 2012-02-09 00:48:47
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Leveling perle bst to get inb4 TH nerf
trollface.jpg

Then gearing DNC like a BA and outdoing myself and other bsts
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-02-09 01:29:37
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Phoenix.Esaias said: »
Dynamis will remain crowded in spite of the BST nerf. That's where the currency is. So if you are excited to see Bst go just remember greedy people will always be there stealing your mobs. Now the Bst that were not hitting dyna everyday have to show up more to finish relix. WOOT! Let's just nerf all procs. Then everyone can grind their FOREVER!

This is the funniest part of it all, ppl who think this will change dynamis at all. If anything itll get worse cause bst like me who just do it occasionally will now do it more cause each run will be less coins.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-09 01:31:13
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Maybe, but the rest of us will sleep sounder when you're killing 5 mobs (slowly) that you're only getting 7 coins when you would have been getting 15.
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-02-09 01:38:09
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Maybe, but the rest of us will sleep sounder when you're killing 5 mobs (slowly) that you're only getting 7 coins when you would have been getting 15.

Really dont care, i dont worry about fake money to feel special. I'll still kill faster, beable to hold and take anything unclaimed.
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By Castoth 2012-02-09 02:03:03
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Between here and the official forums, it seems that the non-BSTs have come out of the woodwork to act emo and/or gloat about this nerf more than the BSTs themselves. Square has, once again, reduced the mentality of the community. This past year has been almost nothing but bitching at each other, or gloating about X job getting nerfed (or enraged that SAM has returned to being Tanaka's poster boy). All that's missing is HNM drama and we've fully descended back to the hell that was six years ago.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-09 02:05:34
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lol >.>;

I wasn't doing HNM 6 years ago and all I have is good memories

*shrug*
By volkom 2012-02-09 02:06:08
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Castoth said: »
Between here and the official forums, it seems that the non-BSTs have come out of the woodwork to act emo and/or gloat about this nerf more than the BSTs themselves. Square has, once again, reduced the mentality of the community. This past year has been almost nothing but bitching at each other, or gloating about X job getting nerfed (or enraged that SAM has returned to being Tanaka's poster boy). All that's missing is HNM drama and we've fully descended back to the hell that was six years ago.
we got voidwatch drama instead
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By Asura.Malekith 2012-02-09 02:07:14
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Castoth said: »
All that's missing is HNM drama and we've fully descended back to the hell that was six years ago.
Just wait till legion that'll complete the descent into chaos/ madness...
By volkom 2012-02-09 02:11:26
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Asura.Malekith said: »
Castoth said: »
All that's missing is HNM drama and we've fully descended back to the hell that was six years ago.
Just wait till legion that'll complete the descent into chaos/ madness...
inb4 bad drop rates
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-02-09 02:15:14
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Bahamut.Zangada said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Maybe, but the rest of us will sleep sounder when you're killing 5 mobs (slowly) that you're only getting 7 coins when you would have been getting 15.

Really dont care, i dont worry about fake money to feel special. I'll still kill faster, beable to hold and take anything unclaimed.

How will you be able to hold anything? I took a break from Dyna but I used to one shot all their unclaimed mobs that were proc'd because they always got greedy and held like 6 mobs at once. It was rather amusing to do!
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By Castoth 2012-02-09 02:16:14
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
lol >.>;

I wasn't doing HNM 6 years ago and all I have is good memories

*shrug*

The HNM drama on my old server (Alexander) got to be so lengthy, it branched off from the Killing Ifrit site, made its own forums, and lasted for over 1000 pages. Though it did slowly get less serious by the end of that. >_>
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-02-09 02:22:35
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Bahamut.Zangada said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Maybe, but the rest of us will sleep sounder when you're killing 5 mobs (slowly) that you're only getting 7 coins when you would have been getting 15.

Really dont care, i dont worry about fake money to feel special. I'll still kill faster, beable to hold and take anything unclaimed.

How will you be able to hold anything? I took a break from Dyna but I used to one shot all their unclaimed mobs that were proc'd because they always got greedy and held like 6 mobs at once. It was rather amusing to do!
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Bahamut.Zangada said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Maybe, but the rest of us will sleep sounder when you're killing 5 mobs (slowly) that you're only getting 7 coins when you would have been getting 15.

Really dont care, i dont worry about fake money to feel special. I'll still kill faster, beable to hold and take anything unclaimed.

How will you be able to hold anything? I took a break from Dyna but I used to one shot all their unclaimed mobs that were proc'd because they always got greedy and held like 6 mobs at once. It was rather amusing to do!

Well im not going to give away my secrets but its really not that hard. And im refering to a resonable number like 2-3.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-02-10 09:43:16
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To be painfully honest, this won't effect BST as much as people think it will. Kill Speed > Treasure Hunter in most cases, even moreso now with an extremely powerful WS (Ruinator) in there.

As a few people stated earlier, at best it will [eventually] clear out the gimp BSTs (see: "pink and white") that simply cannot kill fast in the first place. Hardcore BST mains will still be able to wreck shop and pull in 110~150 coins a run with only a TH1 pet. They just won't be topping out at 180~200 coins solo anymore. Reading some of these knee jerk reactions amongst these threads is pretty hilarious however.

Yes, I'm a BST main.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-10 09:50:37
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You're a BLU main, stfu.
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