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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 00:10:35
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Odin.Sawtelle said: »
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A child walking into traffic is actually walking into danger; a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed by his side is a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed at his side.

You refer to him as Jesus.

To be fair we know Jesus existed. Almost everything biblical about him is unprovable, but there is evidence that the person existed and he traveled around teaching religion.
There is no historical, physical evidence of his work, writings, etc, and no record of a man named Jesus being executed by the Romans and more specifically Pontius Pilate.

All "historical" references to Jesus come years after the fact via hearsay/2nd-3rd-4th hand accounts.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-02-02 00:10:49
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Odin.Sawtelle said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
A child walking into traffic is actually walking into danger; a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed by his side is a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed at his side.

You refer to him as Jesus.

To be fair we know Jesus existed. Almost everything biblical about him is unprovable, but there is evidence that the person existed and he traveled around teaching religion.

Actually everything known about jesus came AFTER his lifetime. Everything anyone ever thinks is just made up or from really unreliable sources. If jesus DID exist then he was a teacher - IF he existed at all.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:11:05
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And one last thing, to any who may think that my faith is ok for me and not okay to share, i leave you with this... If i truly believed that Jesus Christ is the only way anyone would get to heaven and everyone else will parish in hell, and didn't attempt to inform you or at least share my story... What kinda person would that make me? If you seen a child walking into traffic surely you would stop the child... but you are not children, you are men and women... and if you seen a man walking into unseen traffic at least you would give a shout.
You posted this while I was typing up my reply and now I have an issue..

Here's my issue.. It's not as if almost no one on the face of this *** planet doesn't know about religion, and probably the vast majority of the major ones.. Now if you wanna go get dropped off into the middle of nowhere to some tribe who has never heard of such a thing, your argument makes sense.

No one needs YOU to talk to them about 'the lord'.. By this point, pretty much anyone you will come across in life, has already made their decision. If they're not religious, they're not, and if they are, who are you to try and sway it?

"Millions of dead mother *** all because they gave the wrong answer to the 'God question'. "Do you believe in God?" "No" Boom, dead.. "Do you believe in God?" "Yes" "Do you believe in my God?" "No" Boom dead." - George Carlin

TL;DR: If you wanna talk about God to people, find other God people to talk to, no one needs your assistance.. We all pretty much know already.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-02-02 00:15:33
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Odin.Sawtelle said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
A child walking into traffic is actually walking into danger; a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed by his side is a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed at his side.

You refer to him as Jesus.

To be fair we know Jesus existed. Almost Everything biblical about him is unprovable, but there is evidence that the person existed and he traveled around teaching religion.

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Uh...

Actually, there's not as much evidence about him existing as you'd think.
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By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2012-02-02 00:16:13
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Leviathan.Mnkk said: »
You should write a book.
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-02 00:19:42
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Jesus was killed to keep peace. And His body went missing. Pilate killed him because the jews where threatening to riot if he didnt. But Jesus death resulted in the disciples preaching that Jesus' Resurrection had happened, causing more chaos than the jews had threaten to bring to Pilates door step if they didnt Kill Jesus. If the Body was stolen by the romans they would have produced the body to keep peace, thats the reason they killed Jesus to begin with. The jews where the ones who wanted Jesus dead, if they had stolen the body they would have produced it as soon as the disciples started preaching He was alive. Now the only suspect for the missing body is the disciples... But they where flogged, decapitated, thrown off of buildings, dragged across rugged terrain by horses until they bled to death, fed to lions and bears, had red hot iron plates placed on there chest until it mounted down to the bone, and all of them where given a chance to say "I made it up, Jesus didnt rise from the dead" But not one of them did. I find it impossible for 1 man to go through that much torture.. let alone 12 and none of them break and say "We LIED!" "But mnkk... people die every day for there faith... it still happends and we know theres not a "God" " Well heres the difference, People die today for what they hope is true, the disciples died for what they knew was true. Your war is not with me, but with God and you will know now or then, but either way you will know that i was correct and tryed to warn you. You will not stand before God on judgement day and say "I never knew"
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:21:00
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Odin.Sawtelle said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
A child walking into traffic is actually walking into danger; a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed by his side is a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed at his side.

You refer to him as Jesus.

To be fair we know Jesus existed. Almost Everything biblical about him is unprovable, but there is evidence that the person existed and he traveled around teaching religion.

Edited

Uh...

Actually, there's not as much evidence about him existing as you'd think.
I've always preferred to say it like this:

I don't dispute a man named Jesus roughly the same age and living in the time the Bible says he did, actually existed.. But I do dispute any claim the Bible accredits to him.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-02 00:21:24
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Idk about you guys but, I can't wait to go to hell with all the hot sweaty gay men..it's going to be one hell of an eternal party.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:21:38
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Leviathan.Mnkk said: »
Jesus was killed to keep peace. And His body went missing. Pilate killed him because the jews where threatening to riot if he didnt. But Jesus death resulted in the disciples preaching that Jesus' Resurrection had happened, causing more chaos than the jews had threaten to bring to Pilates door step if they didnt Kill Jesus. If the Body was stolen by the romans they would have produced the body to keep peace, thats the reason they killed Jesus to begin with. The jews where the ones who wanted Jesus dead, if they had stolen the body they would have produced it as soon as the disciples started preaching He was alive. Now the only suspect for the missing body is the disciples... But they where flogged, decapitated, thrown off of buildings, dragged across rugged terrain by horses until they bled to death, fed to lions and bears, had red hot iron plates placed on there chest until it mounted down to the bone, and all of them where given a chance to say "I made it up, Jesus didnt rise from the dead" But not one of them did. I find it impossible for 1 man to go through that much torture.. let alone 12 and none of them break and say "We LIED!" "But mnkk... people die every day for there faith... it still happends and we know theres not a "God" " Well heres the difference, People die today for what they hope is true, the disciples died for what they knew was true. Your war is not with me, but with God and you will know now or then, but either way you will know that i was correct and tryed to warn you. You will not stand before God on judgement day and say "I never knew"
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-02 00:21:53
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You posted this while I was typing up my reply and now I have an issue..

Here's my issue.. It's not as if almost no one on the face of this *** planet doesn't know about religion, and probably the vast majority of the major ones.. Now if you wanna go get dropped off into the middle of nowhere to some tribe who has never heard of such a thing, your argument makes sense.

No one needs YOU to talk to them about 'the lord'.. By this point, pretty much anyone you will come across in life, has already made their decision. If they're not religious, they're not, and if they are, who are you to try and sway it?

"Millions of dead mother *** all because they gave the wrong answer to the 'God question'. "Do you believe in God?" "No" Boom, dead.. "Do you believe in God?" "Yes" "Do you believe in my God?" "No" Boom dead." - George Carlin

TL;DR: If you wanna talk about God to people, find other God people to talk to, no one needs your assistance.. We all pretty much know already.









To answer simply.. I made my decision that there was no God, and a Christian family reached out to me to tell me some "***" i already heard before. But look at me now.
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By Odin.Gosuapple 2012-02-02 00:21:56
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Odin.Liela said: »
How I became a Christian:

I was born into a religious family and it was not accepted that one of us might not follow the same path. I was indoctrinated from birth, converted to Christianity (from what I have no clue) at the age of 5, baptized at the age of ten, and every time I questioned it I was told "Put not the Lord your God to the test."

Then I grew up, moved out, and moved on.

Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly fine to be a Christian. But it's really not perfectly fine to try to make everyone else around you be Christians too. :/

Why? So long as their methods are reason and persuasion I think people should be allowed to try to convert me to anything they want. Depending on what it is they're trying to convert me to (using the term convert to cover anything from Judaism to margarine over butter) they may not be terribly successful, but I don't want to issue any blanket statements that I'm entirely unprepared to consider another person's way of thinking.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-02-02 00:21:57
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ALL HAIL OUR LORD AND MASTER!

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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:22:18
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Idk about you guys but, I can't wait to go to hell with all the hot sweaty gay men..it's going to be one hell of an eternal party.
:< But I'm straight.. I'm not anti-gay, but that's not exactly how I want to the spend the afterlife..
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-02 00:23:19
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Idk about you guys but, I can't wait to go to hell with all the hot sweaty gay men..it's going to be one hell of an eternal party.
:< But I'm straight.. I'm not anti-gay, but that's not exactly how I want to the spend the afterlife..

You can have your own side with all the wimminz.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 00:25:41
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So basically you were in a point of weakness, and as a weak minded, easily influenced individual you took the bait. Now as a weak minded, non-logical thinking, ignorant individual you are trying to sell people in to your non-condom wearing, abstinence only, abortion clinic bombing, warmongering, hate bearing and human rights/genocidal ****wad ponzie scheme?

If I missed something, point it out.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:26:20
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Idk about you guys but, I can't wait to go to hell with all the hot sweaty gay men..it's going to be one hell of an eternal party.
:< But I'm straight.. I'm not anti-gay, but that's not exactly how I want to the spend the afterlife..

You can have your own side with all the wimminz.
Can't I have the throne instead? =/ I only need 1 woman..
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-02 00:26:47
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
So basically you were in a point of weakness, and as a weak minded, easily influenced individual you took the bait. Now as a weak minded, non-logical thinking, ignorant individual you are trying to sell people in to your non-condom wearing, abstinence only, abortion clinic bombing, warmongering, hate bearing and human rights/genocidal ****wad ponzie scheme?

If I missed something, point it out.

Forgot the "Kill all the homosexuals!"
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-02-02 00:27:31
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Don't forget to put prejudicial and hypocritical in there somewhere.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-02 00:27:47
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Idk about you guys but, I can't wait to go to hell with all the hot sweaty gay men..it's going to be one hell of an eternal party.
:< But I'm straight.. I'm not anti-gay, but that's not exactly how I want to the spend the afterlife..

You can have your own side with all the wimminz.
Can't I have the throne instead? =/ I only need 1 woman..

Idk, isn't that where satan sits? Idk about you but I'd wanna have a go with him :<
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By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2012-02-02 00:27:52
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
So basically you were in a point of weakness, and as a weak minded, easily influenced individual you took the bait. Now as a weak minded, non-logical thinking, ignorant individual you are trying to sell people in to your non-condom wearing, abstinence only, abortion clinic bombing, warmongering, hate bearing and human rights/genocidal ****wad ponzie scheme?

If I missed something, point it out.

Forgot the "Kill all the homosexuals!"

Or "cure"...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-02-02 00:27:53
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
I've always preferred to say it like this:

I don't dispute a man named Jesus roughly the same age and living in the time the Bible says he did, actually existed.. But I do dispute any claim the Bible accredits to him.

No primary sources, no sources even written by him, No witnesses happened to write about him. Nothing of the sort.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 00:28:13
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I was including "kill the gays" in hate bearing/human rights
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 00:28:59
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Shiva.Xellith said: »
Don't forget to put prejudicial and hypocritical in there somewhere.
We are all this, so making it specific to christianity/islam/judaism isn't the best example
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-02 00:29:37
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Bismarck.Stfutaru said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
So basically you were in a point of weakness, and as a weak minded, easily influenced individual you took the bait. Now as a weak minded, non-logical thinking, ignorant individual you are trying to sell people in to your non-condom wearing, abstinence only, abortion clinic bombing, warmongering, hate bearing and human rights/genocidal ****wad ponzie scheme?

If I missed something, point it out.

Forgot the "Kill all the homosexuals!"

Or "cure"...
bible says somewhere to kill them :< and you know, to be consistent you have to follow everything in the bible.
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-02 00:30:00
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Beloved, if i was weak minded id had been a christian long before i became one, if that was the reason. lol read the story again, if all i needed was a few short comings to be a christian i got mine early in life. It was not the case of a weak mind. :) Peace guys
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-02-02 00:31:49
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Stop cherry picking. You talk like the bible is an amazing moral guide - you obviously overlooked all the rape and such. God is good - god commanded rape - therefore rape is good? Religious logic at its best?
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 00:34:22
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Only for Altar boys
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:35:01
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
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I've always preferred to say it like this:

I don't dispute a man named Jesus roughly the same age and living in the time the Bible says he did, actually existed.. But I do dispute any claim the Bible accredits to him.

No primary sources, no sources even written by him, No witnesses happened to write about him. Nothing of the sort.
I'm not disputing that much <_< Just saying a Jesus (not "The Jesus") of the age and era didn't exist seems like a ridiculous statement to make to me.. It's the same level of ridiculousness to me to act as if the one from the bible did exist and actually did everything it says he did..
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By Sylph.Lorax 2012-02-02 00:36:00
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Is anyone else trying to figure out why he made an account here JUST to post that? All 7 of his posts are in this thread.
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