Apoc 5 Hit Build

He mad.

Now see, I didn't mean to insinuate Enmity was obscure, that was your interpretation, but the little things like Auspice or Storm spells having 300 VE per player casted on? Those can definitely be called obscure if only for the coddling mages get in terms of having to learn such things to be effective players (in short: they don't).

Furious, even.

Why do every drk's thread turns into personal attack. I really don't understand...

They need to take out all of the aggression that they harbor by having such a low accuracy score on other people!

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:c it would have been ok in 2005

People who fancy themselves prestigious despite an almost universally contrary opinion amongst the more esteemed of the XI mathematical community usually bring personal attacks to their own front door.

He's a self-important troll who should really stop belittling others to prove his non-points.

He should also learn the meaning of phrases before using them. My comment was not ad hominem.

Inanely pointing out my supposed 'ignorance' of enmity mechanics despite my assertion that DRK/MNK was for situations where it was irrelevant?

Pretty clear-cut case for formulating the value of my input on your own absurd notions of unrelated considerations of my character despite apparent evidence to the contrary.

So of course you wouldn't recognize it through your current bias being fueled by a bad case of 'mad'.

And still you persist in attacking my character instead of my presented concepts on atma selection. Pathetic.

We're all just hangry that DRK is overshadowed by most other DDs when played full cookie-cutter.

You asserted that a player who isn't the sole possessor of the attention of an enemy in Abyssea at any given time isn't doing their job properly.

That sounds pretty ignorant to me, friend.

No, I said somebody else was already doing their job. I suspect this whole debacle may relate instead to your reading comprehension.

If someone else has hate, that means they're probably tanking and DDing well enough on their own. Barring specific mobs (hate resets specifically) it's not that an extra DD, DRK or what have you, is not doing their job, but that they're just redundant.

Keep trying. Keep backpedaling.

wtf is this ***

Pretending for a moment that that's in fact what you meant(how amusing of you to suggest that I'm backpedaling), your statement is no less foolish.


The discussion is with regard to damage output in multi-DD Abyssea situations. Suggesting that not having hate is a product of not doing enough damage is asinine.

>If you don't have the enemy's attention, counter isn't helping your damage

>>If you don't have the enemy's attention, you're doing something wrong

You were wrong, go away.

Yes, I missed the context at the time. Didn't really kill my point for you to point that out though, because he was present as DRK in a noncritical capacity (read: shits and giggles).

But to use that as your counterargument insinuates that bringing an extra DD to Abyssea that you have to heal, buff, and give a share of loot when just one will suffice perfectly is totally acceptable.

You're presuming some perfect world where everything is fair, every DD is rewarded for their efforts, AoE moves don't give the healer n-times more work to do.

So my assertion will stand as it was: If you're gonna bring DRK for any real, nonredundant, purpose to Abyssea, RR/GH/RL DRK/MNK is the way to go.

If you're a secondary DD, break out Echoes and have some fun. It's not like Abyssea is hard anyway.

You seem to once again be awfully comfortable with crying ineptitude with regard to things you're not so adept with yourself.

Grab hold of some of that reading comprehension stuff you were spewing about earlier.

So, actual counterpoint to DRK/MNK in pertinent use please?

Shouldn't be DRK in abyssea to begin with.

We covered that already, but consider the mechanics of a 140+ base damage weapon with a 78% counter rate. If you want lowman power it's unmatched.

Assuming for a moment that you have a point, what's keeping a vastly superior Abyssea-job from doing the same thing?

Your 140+ base damage weapon with a 78% counter rate still has atrocious WS damage.

Cool your counters hit harder, but I don't have to sacrifice a DD atma or use a non-crit WS to counterstance on my MNK.

in all seriousness though, Resolution. 'nuff said

And riddle me this: what's so remarkable about your WS-deficient scythe's 78% counter rate in light of, for instance, Ukonvasura's 40-50% Retaliation rate that returns hits 20% harder, and gives TP? All while maintaining Hasso?

I'm not particularly interested in bickering over this(I clearly didn't mind participating despite DRK's shortcomings in Abyssea), but Resolution is still rather pitiful compared to Ukko's Fury, Victory Smite, and the like in such situations.

Hi, i'm the retard that suggested Drk/Mnk way back when.

You know the guy that started this Thread: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/17385/drkmnk-caladbolg-tanking/ and got flamed out the *** because I wanted to make a shitty job relevent?





Any of These, 90+ should completley and utterly wipe the floor with anything DRK could hope or dream to do inside abyssea.

Anyways thats my post for the day!

Hi and Bye!

Yeah, it's a given that WAR and MNK will trump all over DRK in Damage in abyssea, but in all honesty, Resolution makes DDing there slightly better than using torcleaver (outside of aftermath).

Resolution is beast, it's just unimpressive in Abyssea.

Can still be fun though.



Stacked for just WS damage sure, but it's hard to find things with enough HP for this that don't play the NM damage resistance card. I think that one was still only 6 hits (TA potential in play, but already dead before 7th hit) and only using Gram.

When does the thread turned from Apoc 5 hit to Resolution only?
Hasn't it been proven that Resolution is overpowered with : 5 hits, STR mod, fTP carried by ele gorget/belt?

If by "overpowered" you mean "the weaponskill that DRK has been sorely lacking forever" then yes.

Ok but why on GS? There's no great ws for war on axe, no great ws for mnk on staff. Not as if it was impossible to avoid weird modifiers on scythe ws.

I personally see scythe more as the utility weapon featuring higher white damage DoT than the great sword, whereas the great sword is the actual DD weapon.

Scythe gets marginally higher attack and accuracy, interesting hitbuilds, and infinite MP.

GS gets higher raw damage.

This was true in the Spinning Slash era before the 2-hander buff, and the old notion stands true: A decent DRK has both Scythe and GS. It's so easy to have at least a decent weapon in both categories. Any DRK with just one weapon to use is a derp, through and through. Even just keeping Twilight Scythe in your back pocket puts you above the bar.