Apoc 5 Hit Build

with my gear set if i take away my goading belt i will be at 23% hast with my aftermath.. looks like i need to do some nyzul to upgrade. thank you all for the help i will have more questions thought my gear was doing good but looks like i got work to do! finally a reason to log on to do something other than fish

4hit, AM up /SAM, after Catastrophe.
6sTP on Armada is required.
142 DEX in this set as hume (12/12) ~something I'm looking into.




5hit, AM down, /SAM (starting at 0)
Only 3sTP required on Armada.
138 DEX

Both of those sets are 5-hit. (The second one is 5-hit assuming you ws with Rajas ring.)

Edit: I suppose if you are not using Cata, you are using Entropy which being multi-hit will allow you to keep your 5-hit.

The first is a 4hit after Catastrophe with just Brutal earring on WS for 16.1TP
You would need 20.975 TP per swing, this set has 21.1
Unless you're counting Catastrophe itself as a hit, then yeah it's a 5hit.

Not sure what you mean about the second set.

4 hit after WS is called a 5 hit.

Thanks for the correction lol

Just for a slight variant

5 hit AM Down



5 hit AM Up




I think most peoples sets will be fairly similar though because obviously they change depending on what you're fighting anyway. Like mine is similar/possibly identical to Taint's for slightly more evasive stuff.

for those who were wondering(cause i am) i think this is /sam

Yeah it's /SAM, the same as all the other sets posted.

Anyone have some updated AM down/up sets for the phorcys impaired?

My luck with nyzul has been a little less than stellar, unfortunately ><

I use:



The Armadaberk has 6Stp/2DA just swap the legs to your +3 versions and the feet to Jingang Greaves. If you lack 6Stp on your Armadaberk then swap ammo to Hagneia stone and itll still be a 5hit assuming you Catas in Rajas/Brutal only.

Ninja Edit:

For AM Down judging by the gear shown on your page you should be able to manage that. The Armadaberk only requires 5+ Stp aswell.

A question specifically directed to Jem and Taint, but others may have some insight too...

I was looking at your gear sets, and while almost identical, I did notice Jem has the AF3+2 head in the apoc set while Taint has Phorcys. Then for Ragnarok sets, Jem has the Phorcys helm and Taint uses the AF3+2

Any particular reason for the variant, or does it just come down to an x-hit/acc situation?

All depends on your x-built, haste and additional hits. You have a lot of flexibility today.

AF3 head > Phorcys head, if you don't need the ACC or stp from Phorcys.

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Depends on regain, buffs, atmacites, etc. Each set was probably constructed with a slightly different setup in mind, and I'd guess that neither exclusively uses whatever's in the posted sets (didn't look though).

What I have /SAM, AM & Atmacite Haste, as far as a mid-way before Armadaberk and Phorcys go:

I assume you mean at capped Magic Haste. Pretty certain the difference is that his set is inclusive of regain and mine is not. (Least that's what it looks like to me)

I have Rancorous in a lot of my sets on here btw, don't use that, use Atheling. It was an experimental mistake that I never corrected on here.

Also, if you ask me a question on here and I don't reply for days like this (didn't see it until this morning), just poke me in-game. Unless I'm in Rulade, I'm probably about or not far from my computer. And I'm a pretty approachable I'd like to think!

im not home to check my ffxicalc so quick question: how much stp does apoc need exactly to 5 hit/4 hit (for future ref)... hell how much for a 6 hit at that, trying to figure tank builds with atleast a minimum xhit... unless someone has these sets built already lol

(im doing apoc for lowman drk tank situations mainly)

edit: and yes yes you get tp from getting hit, probably gonna use mekiras body for general tanking but still want to hold a minimum hit build to self support depending on the sub i pick

Depends on how much stp you ws in (tp return)

completey saw that coming, it would also depend on if i use cata or entropy too, more looking for the stp average, assuming cata

edit: used to know these numbers by heart but havent played with scythe delays since like 80 cap

and i guess id be wsing in 5-10 stp, more likely 5 unless it breaks a hit difference, or even 1 stp if i could get away with it

reedit: just gonna make a new thread for drk tanking or dig up an old one if there is one

WS'ing only in 5 stp on ws (rajas only? i dunno just going with the figure you posted) lets you get 5hits after ws (6hit) with only rajas and brutal (6stp). You need 36 stp above subjob to make that ws set a 5hit.

5stp was thinking rose and brutal, 10 with rajas

are those numbers assuming /sam or /randomsub?
new thread made btw and pre-cg on 3k posts

35 store tp in gears and /sam then catastrophe with rajas brutal rose strap.

finally picked up my apoc! (screw you goblin cooldown) and 1 hour in had the first trial done, this things fun lol

so now i just need to know where my idea of apoc sets for /sam hold up
tp
ws
am

swap feet and ammo in ws for entropy, also wondering if the 7int diamond ring would be better than spiral...

i dont have p body but considering the price i think im gonna wait till neo salvage pulls through to see if itll be replaced

any other sets are tbd till trials are done, not sure what ill actually be using it for besides /sam and /tanksub, ragnarok for vw unless its scythe proc

edit: is anger bomblet viable for cata?
i come up 6stp short in am set, debating "lolporthos" and ogiers hands, or just ogiers and be short some haste
armaberk is at 5stp for those curious, doesnt seem to make or break anything with 1stp more from any builds i look at

edit2: i guess just straight ogiers hands would cover not using rose strap, im not a big fan of uncapped haste on drk lol... maybe i should just give in and consider rose? not sure that keeps me out of ogiers though

For entropy :
ombre tathlum
Hrafn or huginn hose
Bale sollerets +2
Twilight mail
Icesoul ring instead of raja's.

your subs with apoc (and with rag) : /sam or /war

/war in full buffs situations (embrava, haste, minuet, rolls etc..).

Your tp sets are good, however you may want 4 or 5 more tp sets involving bale burgeonnet +2 whirlwind dirs, valkyrie body etc...

Oh and get a rose strap!!!

thanks for teaching me how to drk!

joking aside, this is the apoc 5 hit thread, which im trying to optimize especially going into plenty of ws trials, i plan to have alternate sets for what im planning to do with apoc

i guess ill need to spend some time in vunk to get that 7 int damond ring
edit: have rose strap, dont like the idea of giving up the 2da if i dont have to (3da eventually)