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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-21 10:48:02
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Hello everyone!

The dev. team is looking into removing the wait time restrictions for older missions and events. However, we won't be able to remove them all at once since there are such a large amount of them and each of these event scenes being created differently.

If you guys could provide for us specific examples of where you have (or are) being inconvenienced by wait times, we can put those on the top of the list to be removed first.
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04-11-2012 12:10 PM
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Just wanted to let you all know that the development team is currently working on reducing the time period between creating AF+1 items. They are of course working on other things as well, but expect to make the adjustments somewhere around May to June.

As for the adjustment itself, the plan is to reduce the time from every conquest tally to one Earth day.
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Question: Just to clarify, I hope this applies to relic gear as well and not just artifact gear.

Yes it does! I'm sorry for the confusion and the wait, I had to double check with the dev. team on this. I have also edited Camate's post to clarify that this change is indeed for both Relic+1 and AF+1 upgrades.

We're also looking into shortening the AF+1 and Relic+1 upgrades wait times to 1 Vana'diel day instead of 1 Earth day! Hooray!

For those of you asking about missions and quests wait times being lowered, I mentioned earlier in this thread that this is a very large task to reduce them all at once, but I did forward the missions and quests that you guys requested to be prioritize first and we'll be sure to let you know when the dev. team will be adjusting the wait times.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-21 10:48:59
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Before any of you get too excited, they have 6-8 other promises just like this that they still haven't added -.-

Would like for them to finish what they said they would do first lol, but this is nice as well...
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By Sylph.Saviour 2012-01-21 10:49:17
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All the time, everywhere.
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By Hades.Cheyne 2012-01-21 10:54:58
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The ToAU missions, I think those had most of the midnight waiting times.

And it's about time they did this, would lose the excitement building on a story line when I had to quit for the day and do something else.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-21 10:58:08
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ToAU would be the most important I think. They have the shortest missions between waits.
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By Shiva.Durtiesweat 2012-01-21 10:59:55
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What about the wait time for +1'ing AF gear? It's always been kinda ridiculous.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-01-21 11:00:35
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They also need to remove the Conquest Tally wait out of Artifact/Relic armor upgrading and the midnight wait out of Salvage upgrading.

Both were put in when things weren't done as readily, and being able to do Dynamis every day definitely makes the need for speeding things up essential.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-21 11:01:14
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Shiva.Durtiesweat said: »
What about the wait time for +1'ing AF gear? It's always been kinda ridiculous.
Just had to make a title and that seemed where it was used the most. It is used for any event in the game including AF gear which I think is ridiculous as well.
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By Nevill 2012-01-21 11:03:46
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ToAU for sure...
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-01-21 11:14:08
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Salvage wait time.... >.>
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By Bahamut.Danthebk 2012-01-21 11:18:03
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Every. Single. Wait time. I would like to play the game, not wait to play the game later.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-21 11:42:09
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Bahamut.Danthebk said: »
Every. Single. Wait time. I would like to play the game, not wait to play the game later.
I would have to disagree with every single one.

I think there needs to be a standard of two:

game day wait

RL day wait.

RL day should be the wait that is in place for weekly waits and conquest waits. In the case that you "need to wait until tomorrow" for certain events to take place in the story line, I think a game day wait is acceptable since you can plan what your doing out and finish up a few minutes before the day changes.

I think they use game day wait too much though, as is RL day. A RL day is basically a month in vana'diel, and really how often do you have to wait a month for something to happen in the story? Not very much at all, it is over used because they didn't want players who didn't do their missions to suddenly catch up to the players who did it beforehand. So basically to slow the slackers down.

That might of been fine when missions came out (still idk) but they just leave them there. Players just starting the game are having a great time doing missions then suddenly they can't do anything for a whole day. You just can't get into it that way.

I vote to remove RL day waits from missions all together, as I don't really care if someone who slacked off doing missions suddenly passed me when something they wanted came out. They are doing the work regardless. On AF waits, I think it's time to just let people get their crap and move on. On relic waits... I think 1-3 days is appropriate, the goblins are building a master weapon supposedly even tho abyssea ruined that logic (and how filthy rich are they... lol).

So, I don't think all wait timers should be removed. I think the majority do need to go, or lowered. Some are in place that I probably would vote to keep the same.
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By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-01-21 12:00:38
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I completely agree with doing away with the wait time for upgrading AF/Relic on the grounds of the fact that they made Dynamis so much more accessible. I hate that I get nearly every -1 in a Dreamland zone run, but have to wait forever to get one piece back. >.>
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-01-21 12:12:36
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Thank freakin' god
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-01-21 12:14:17
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Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »
I completely agree with doing away with the wait time for upgrading AF/Relic on the grounds of the fact that they made Dynamis so much more accessible. I hate that I get nearly every -1 in a Dreamland zone run, but have to wait forever to get one piece back. >.>

A Chick beastmaster? Interesting.
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By Bahamut.Zerokesra 2012-01-21 12:47:23
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Normal AF quests could benefit from it. Leveled PUP last year and it took nearly a week to get the entire set which sucked at the rate you level now.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-01-21 12:48:52
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This is a few years too late
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-21 13:10:44
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
This is a few years too late
Isn't most of these updates? :P

Just glad they are doing it, w/e they get to it >.>
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2012-01-21 13:18:13
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
This is a few years too late


Agreed.

But better late than never I suppose.

Get rid of wait times for:

Anything to do with AF/AF+1/AF2+1
Anything in-between Missions for CoP/ToAU/WotG
Anything in-between key Quests (in a series), such as Assault Rank upgrades.
Anything involving Quests to acquire useable/sell-able Scrolls (Teleport-Yhoat, etc.)

Would also like to see S-E reduce the "cooldown" timer for Limbus re-entry to 24 hours. And eliminate the "daily cap" on trading Soulplates to the NPC for Zeni.

There's probably more, but that's what I can think of right now.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-01-21 13:32:57
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Very welcomed, now please get rid of the 1 week wait on Sagheera :|
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By lilcratis 2012-01-21 13:40:50
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really? i could care less about the missions since ive completed all...but i would like to see them drop the timer on the relic+1 gear...if a person wants to upgrade every piece of relic on all jobs it would take the better part of 2 years >8(
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-01-21 13:48:26
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Someone mention Zeni, 10 plates, etc
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-21 15:05:01
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I'd wish they'd allow you to skip the pseduo c/s's and the c/s for avatar runs after you've done them the first (or 10th, or me about 30something) time...
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By Fenrir.Dibble 2012-01-21 15:10:14
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After doing Bahamut you have to wait a frikkin' week to do the next part.

That's ridiculous.
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By Asura.Myrrh 2012-01-21 15:21:19
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1 RL day isn't a wait. Asking them to remove that is just ridiculous.

A conquest tally for upgrading dynamis/artifact is just ridiculous as well, there has never been anything in the game that urked me so much as that.

Using the "role-playing" mindset on the things such as waiting isn't out of the realm of realistic. You give the dude your salvage materials and you get the armor right away? They DO say they need to send them away to get them crafted. The next day builds anticipation.

A RL week? There has to be some sort of FF/SE based UPS to speed that up.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2012-01-21 15:47:17
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Asura.Myrrh said: »
1 RL day isn't a wait. Asking them to remove that is just ridiculous.

A conquest tally for upgrading dynamis/artifact is just ridiculous as well, there has never been anything in the game that urked me so much as that.

Using the "role-playing" mindset on the things such as waiting isn't out of the realm of realistic. You give the dude your salvage materials and you get the armor right away? They DO say they need to send them away to get them crafted. The next day builds anticipation.

A RL week? There has to be some sort of FF/SE based UPS to speed that up.


For missions its HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. For quests not so much.
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By Carbuncle.Chibiclone 2012-01-21 15:58:23
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There's a rather stupid midnight wait in the middle of the SAM AF1 boots quest (I suppose the SAM unlock quest too, not that anyone other than new alt accounts does that anymore).

And the midnight waits on each of the AF armor pieces for the ToAU and WotG jobs.
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By Gorion 2012-01-21 16:23:53
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Get rid of Dynamis wait time
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-21 16:30:21
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Gorion said: »
Get rid of Dynamis wait time
Yea, great idea.
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