[dev1065] Relic/Mythic/Empyrean Weapon Upgrades
[dev1065] Relic/Mythic/Empyrean Weapon Upgrades
Well lol, it won't be here for a while Quiznor.
iirc, the most recent numbers that they posted weren't intended to be temporary and those were pretty much finalized.
Seeing as how the only thing they have implemented that works are those "temporary" numbers. I have no clue what they want people to leave feedback on.
I love the extra zeni idea.
Seeing as how the only thing they have implemented that works are those "temporary" numbers. I have no clue what they want people to leave feedback on.
I love the extra zeni idea.
I never cared about the numbers, its about trying to get ppl to kill a nm that only benefits one person while all u can offer them is out dated and barly usefull drops.
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It was stupid of them in the first place to put numbers of that sort. Leave it blank or put in a preposterous number.
from bg test server thread.
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Bahamut.Danthebk said: »
iirc, the most recent numbers that they posted weren't intended to be temporary and those were pretty much finalized.
Seeing as how the only thing they have implemented that works are those "temporary" numbers. I have no clue what they want people to leave feedback on.
I love the extra zeni idea.
Seeing as how the only thing they have implemented that works are those "temporary" numbers. I have no clue what they want people to leave feedback on.
I love the extra zeni idea.
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »
Ragnarok.Harpunnik said: »
Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
See what you actually need to do is bring 72 people into Dynamis and then each alliance does their own ADL while letting one person lot the item they need.
I think this makes the trial much more reasonable
I think this makes the trial much more reasonable
Sorry you can't fit that many people into dynamis actually!
Anyways continue talking about how you are going to leave the game because you can't get a relic trial done. No one that is currently participating in this thread tonight will put forth any valuable suggestions. I don't have any answers atm on doing this w/o PD - but I'm willing to try - maybe fail horribly and get a told you so, but I'd rather do that than sit around and complain.
Even with Earthen Armor and Scherzo his TP attacks hit way to hard, and most if not all have an endeath proc attached to them that also procs through PD which is where the real challenge is, I'm sure if you have an amazing set of red mages with you, with strong dark magic build you could also chainspell stun lock him and have your alliance split when he splits each taking there own DL, coordinating such a split would probably be a pain in the *** tho, and anything that gets through will most likely 1 shot you, if not death will proc.
you ppl cry like we have never had to plan for difficult fights. its like crying cause your ls has to kite kirin because you lack the jobs/skills to zerg him. if ffxi wasn't the grind fest that it is I don't think it would have lasted this long. not everyone wants everything handed to them
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
from bg test server thread.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
01-27-2012 02:46 PM
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| We have been seeing a lot of pretty fierce comments in regards to the trials to upgrade Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons and I feel the need to comment on a couple of things. The number of items necessary Let me start off with an explanation and apology. While we did mention that the number was temporary, it seems like many of you misunderstood that and took the numbers we posted as indicators of the actual values. Instead, we should have used numbers like 1 or 9999 to make it abundantly clearer that these numbers were temporary. I do not want to risk confusing you all even more, so I will make this simple. The difficulty (as well as time necessary) of obtaining the items necessary to upgrade each type of gear will be, in order of increasing difficulty, Mythic > Relic > Empyrean. As such, the number of items necessary to upgrade each type of gear will not be the same between the sets of trials. As an adjustment to the time required for both creating and enhancing Mythic weapons, we are trying to increase the amount of zeni received for each soulplate traded, so you receive over 10 times the amount. (Currently on the test server the data has been changed so you receive 15 times as much) With this as a basis, we are currently looking into and testing the appropriate amount of items, as well as the content of trials up until now and the obtainment paths for the required items. Once the amount has been decided after the investigation, we will be announcing the information along with the detailed thought process behind it. In the meantime, we ask that you please stop focusing discussions on the idea that these values on the test server are the actual values that are to be implemented. The accuracy of the content implemented on the test server Regarding content implemented on the test server, we have been receiving comments stating that it is not right to implement content that has yet to be finalized. We understand that some of these comments may come from players who have not read our posts or the information released with the road map, but I would like to explain again, because the test server is an important aspect of future version updates, as well as our development and QA procedures. In general, please consider content implemented on the test server as content that is either in development, needing adjustments or in the process of being adjusted. As soon as content is implemented on the test server, not only do players have a chance to test out the new content, the development and QA teams also perform balance checks and bug screening. It would be possible to delay player access to the test server, but this would shorten the time that players are able to submit feedback, which may lead to unnecessary delays. Therefore, we have our current test server for the benefit of all involved, so we would appreciate if you understand the reasoning behind our current implementation strategy. | |||
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
from bg test server thread.
im standing in pankration right now earning some more jettons as we speak! idc if its miles off,its added even more pep to my step than yesterday to farm up another PW pop or two in advance!
how much longer until youre done with burtgang quiz?
10x zeni? nice... ZNM were always fun to me, but now it seems hachiryu pants are gonna go down with the adjustment since it will be WAY easier to reach T4
Odin.Eikechi said: »
10x zeni? nice... ZNM were always fun to me, but now it seems hachiryu pants are gonna go down with the adjustment since it will be WAY easier to reach T4
Wasn't hard before, just annoying as hell.
Camate needs one of Krizz's "Chill" posts.
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
how much longer until youre done with burtgang quiz?
too long! ;-; my brother from another mother just ditched our little group so lack of salvage will kill me
edit 1: Deleted the post below because i accidentally quoted this one instead of editing to fix a typo.im THAT psyched over the ZNM change
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
how much longer until youre done with burtgang quiz?
Yes,it is truely my most epic fail ever and I almost quit the day I noticed it
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Quiznor said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
how much longer until youre done with burtgang quiz?
too long! ;-; my brother from another mother just ditched our little group so lack of salvage will kill me
edit 1: Deleted the post below because i accidentally quoted this one instead of editing to fix a typo.im THAT psyched over the ZNM change
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
how much longer until youre done with burtgang quiz?
Yes,it is truely my most epic fail ever and I almost quit the day I noticed it
D: should try /sh groups for salvage too, i had a lot of luck doing that
Been doing it a bit whenever we're a member short.
Just even more prove that SE doesn't give a *** about player feed back and just do what they want.
Seems more and more people are going to let their accounts run out. For those that still enjoy playing, id be pretty worried about that.
PW isnt *as* bad, as it drops other things (not that any of it is really worth a damn anymore) and the Empy one is pretty reasonable. But the relic trial is just ***-tarded.
Seems more and more people are going to let their accounts run out. For those that still enjoy playing, id be pretty worried about that.
PW isnt *as* bad, as it drops other things (not that any of it is really worth a damn anymore) and the Empy one is pretty reasonable. But the relic trial is just ***-tarded.
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
D: should try /sh groups for salvage too, i had a lot of luck doing that
My BST thanks you for the assists with getting some speedy boots. ^^
And Square never has, nor will they ever give half a damn about us or what we think.
I like how people *** about having to now invest their own personal dynamis time into upgrading an entire ls's worth of relics, rather than being able to solo farm for coins/money (which was the legitimate complaint of this system, as they've said they're trying to distance themselves so far from ala their insane refusal to reevaluate personal vw boxes.) Then think peoples complaints are about the temporary #'s currently on the test server. Camate trying to save face is nice, but, address the right issue for a change.
SE said:
Greetings!
I asked the development team about the possibility of changing the trial requirements from collecting specific items to straight up kills of the specific notorious monster, since there were quite a lot of comments regarding this topic.
The development team had looked into changing the trial requirements in this way; however, for a variety of reasons they decided it would be better to not make this change. The biggest reason for this decision is that it was explained previously on the forum that the basis for stage 1 enhancements would be item collection and their thinking is that as long as there are people who have already started collecting these items, it would be best not to change the trial.
Also, there is quite a difference in between item collection and kills. For item trials, in an 18 person fight, one person will receive an item. Whereas for a trial requirement involving a specific number of kills, in an 18 person fight, all 18 people would receive the kill credit. While it’s not really as simple as multiplying it 18 times, since the basic thinking would be that the kill count should be greater than the number of items, in the event that we were to change the trial requirements from item collection to kills, there is a high possibility that the number would rise significantly.
Currently since we are only looking into devising the appropriate number of items to collect, I am not going to be able to tell you an estimate of how many kills it would take, but please know that there would most likely be a huge gap between the numbers.
I asked the development team about the possibility of changing the trial requirements from collecting specific items to straight up kills of the specific notorious monster, since there were quite a lot of comments regarding this topic.
The development team had looked into changing the trial requirements in this way; however, for a variety of reasons they decided it would be better to not make this change. The biggest reason for this decision is that it was explained previously on the forum that the basis for stage 1 enhancements would be item collection and their thinking is that as long as there are people who have already started collecting these items, it would be best not to change the trial.
Also, there is quite a difference in between item collection and kills. For item trials, in an 18 person fight, one person will receive an item. Whereas for a trial requirement involving a specific number of kills, in an 18 person fight, all 18 people would receive the kill credit. While it’s not really as simple as multiplying it 18 times, since the basic thinking would be that the kill count should be greater than the number of items, in the event that we were to change the trial requirements from item collection to kills, there is a high possibility that the number would rise significantly.
Currently since we are only looking into devising the appropriate number of items to collect, I am not going to be able to tell you an estimate of how many kills it would take, but please know that there would most likely be a huge gap between the numbers.
*** lolse, youve got to be kidding me.
As someone who doesn't even own a relic, let me just say that is the craziest thing I have read about FFXI in a very long time, since the days of the 18 hour Pandemonium Warden fight.
As I said on the official forums, 18 players x 20 items each is 360 fights (with a daily restriction of one). A year. Daily. Just...no.
As I said on the official forums, 18 players x 20 items each is 360 fights (with a daily restriction of one). A year. Daily. Just...no.
*** this game and *** the dev team. Seriously what the *** are they thinking?
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This is some bs. Guess whenever I complete my relic it will be forever a 95 :(
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