Is FFXI Gonna Be More Of A Challenge Again?

Also how does one buy an empy weapon in 1-2 days? Didn't realize you can buy spawns of mobs that could take up to 8 hours to spawn.

I am a day one NA player, I was there for all those LS orgasm moments and all those uber rare gear drops that only the top echelon of buddy buddies get. I got gear because I spent the 1795 points on one item from all the countless hours I could spend on the game versus the person who also wanted the item. Let me tell you, none of it meant you were good, it simply meant you could be on more than the other guy or you cyber-sexed the linkshell leader.

All this stuff you yearn for...funny back then you complained about it. You complained as we stood for 3 hours in the Aery, you complained when that JP linkshell bot-claimed Nidhogg every single time. You complained when we had 3 people trying to hold while the rest of your linkshell members decided now that KB has popped they will stop EXPing and show up and put their umpteenth million points up on D. Ring and get it over you, even though you were one of the three that showed up for all windows and claimed the mob.

Relic weapons were always about who bought gil, otherwise it would literally take people years to get them. Nothing changed. Nothing like getting 17 other people at minimum to farm your sea pops to fight JoL, when maybe one other person was interested in that Novio or torque. Nothing like chasing down those people who unequiped the shell in an attempt to not show up for Kirin, but then the LS leader found them and to be a douche-nozzle they lotted 3250 points on W. Legs for their level 15 Paladin and then complained the next day as you had trouble kiting mob X, Y and Z.

If you still think gear back then meant any more than who is best buds with who, what linkshell bots and tri-boxes bought accounts or accounts of people who quit so they didn't have to invite new members, which would mean new competition for the 1-3-3-7 gearz, then you didn't really plat back then.

I'm sorry, but this new FFXI, is better than all the rest. You can't put down your awesome gear on your job resume, or use it to raise your children, or pay your bills. It truly means nothing. We all pay the same 12.95 a month and we should all be able to attain our goals without having to pass out cell phone numbers so the linkshell leader can call us at 3 AM to tell us Charbydis popped and we got claim to get member number 21 his Joytoy.

That's how it really was back then.

I wonder how much of a challenge Abyssea would be if u dont get atmas/cruor buffs.... The op should try that

I'd like to pose a question in here. Was it absolutely needed to have that gear that took weeks, months, years to complete to have fun and beat stuff? I mean afterall, most people on here say game was time sink not hard on here.

So I pose this question. Why can't we have "hard" and "casual" aspects of this game? I think SE may have done something like that now. Case in point. It is fairly easy now to get an empyrean weapon, even a level 90, which, is quite functional and a good piece of equipment. Now they introduce trials that are "hard" "time consuming" etc. Why are people freaking out? You have a great weapon that took you little effort to get, and for the hardcore gamers, they can pursue the version with "afterglow." (Now I will agree doing 500 PW is not hard, just a major pain in the rear.)

Your post sounds confused. You start out by saying that it wasn't needed to have gear that took months/years to obtain, and after all most people agree it wasn't hard but rather a time sink. You then proceed to declare that SE has found a solution on having both hard and casual aspects of the game, with your example being afterglow on empyreans/relics/mythics, which, however, is precisely not hard, but rather a time sink that you so disliked first.

I think his main point, is, that you won't see casual players sporting level 99 empyreans.

People that pine for the "old" FFXI didn't really like playing FFXI ... they liked standing in town with their "shiny" loot equipped ... they liked being the source of others' dissatisfaction. Basically, they were the year-round version of the Grinch.

Actually, some of the people in this thread fighting for the old FFXI were pretty gimp/used by their LS back at 75 so I think they just like to suffer/have things inserted deep inside them.

Strip off your empy/relic/mythic. Not challenging enough? Strip all relic/empy armor and tack AH gear on. I don't understand why you need the dev to give you more challenging stuff in future content.

>MMO
>Challenge

Your post sounds confused. You start out by saying that it wasn't needed to have gear that took months/years to obtain, and after all most people agree it wasn't hard but rather a time sink. You then proceed to declare that SE has found a solution on having both hard and casual aspects of the game, with your example being afterglow on empyreans/relics/mythics, which, however, is precisely not hard, but rather a time sink that you so disliked first.

Who wants to purposely gimp themselves to get a "challenge" out of the game? they shouldn't have to.

I think his main point, is, that you won't see casual players sporting level 99 empyreans.

Actually, some of the people in this thread fighting for the old FFXI were pretty gimp/used by their LS back at 75 so I think they just like to suffer/have things inserted deep inside them.

I don't get this post.
Are you saying the people who liked old FFXI were used by their linkshells?

Who wants to purposely gimp themselves to get a "challenge" out of the game? they shouldn't have to.

You buy the items needed to upgrade to the lvl 80-90 stages derp derp derp.

Herp derp...still doen't allow you to bypass camping the NMs on the lower trials that can take upwards of 8 hours or more to spawn, when you need 3 kills.

What I would like to see happen is this.....

NO TEMPORARY ITEMS.

The newest Voidwatch mobs aren't even 'hard' in the sense that they challenge you to do something above and beyond to win. Battles are composed of either hitting procs fast or being oneshotted by super attacks, hit with doom you may not be able to remove or death that straight ends the fight.