FFXIII-2 And WTF Is This

Don't know why you guys hating on this song 'cause its pretty funny. Love how people on the first page were ripping on fanboys saying only they could like 13 and then go mental on a metal version of the choco song, which btw, is nothing more than a glorified repetitive jingle.

As for ff12:
terrible gameplay.
terrible story.
no character development.
only thing going for it was graphics and let's be honest, graphics are the least important thing in a rpg.

I thought FFXII was fantastic, personally. I would actually put it fourth on my list, behind IV, VI, and Tactics.

I don't really see what people hate about it. The music was great, I don't really care about graphics but they were good, though I pretty much hated Penelo (and to a lesser extent, Vaan). Basch was a BAMF, the gameplay was really cool and the hunts added extra value.

I also kind of like linear games. I find it really annoying if a game allows me to get lost and miss the point of what I'm supposed to be doing for hours on end. Granted, FFXIII was too linear. FFI was linear, but it was disguised by the fact that you had open exploration. I think FFI is a good example of a reasonably open game, but it had a pretty clearly defined structure.

Ask yourselves this: which is worse, that video in the OP or the 'savior' of FFXIV (PS3 release and now ver 2.0) slated for early 2013?

Keep in mind XIV has been in development since Aug 2005 and has only sold less than 700,000 copies world wide. XIII on the other hand has sold 6.2 million copies world wide. Not necessarily a predictor on how sales will be for XIII-2, but I would bet money it would crush XIV sales.

I'm not saying that new song is at all any good, but from a business standpoint which do you think is really hurting the company?

man, never have I been so glad that my TV has a mute button

Just wish they would make more console games regardless of what makes more money in the end :|

I don't understand the hate toward 12, while I was agree it has one of the weakest storylines in a main FF game, but gameplay wise it rocked, I loved how the game was totally wide open.

speaking of 12s gameplay it looks like 13-2 will take from it right? i mean i only say the jp release of the guy playing 13-2 but it looked like you control only the main girl while the others are AI.. and i think you set them the say way you did on 12. but it looked a lot better. but i might be seeing it wrong.

I love 12! I just think the storyline is the worst out of any main FF game created considering the year it was developed.

agreed Kal the story was so bad I forgot it.

still though baltheir and fran were awesome characters. and frans voice actress....was great

I agree with Kal ^^

Twelve had me on the edge of my seat through most of the game up until the rather... underwhelming conclusion.
I relished the open world, complex maps, myriad of monsters and items therein and systematics like the loot, bounty and quickening system.

I'll admit it was a nice breath of fresh air to have a war themed plot than one of pseudo-romantics. Unfortunately it never quite delivered the scale one would expect from an FF flagship title. What we ended up getting was a watered down Star Wars.

That's all they make is console games. They've pretty much said 'FU' to PC games.

12 had me on the edge of my seat until Vaan was introduced, followed by Penelo, Balthier, and Fran.

I agree that song is bad. Once the words started, I had to turn it off. That really can't be the new chocobo song?

It's got to be something that's part of the story line and not the actual music you'd hear while riding a chocobo.

I've written so much about XII on these forums, I wish I had links to the threads I promoted it in.

I hated it when it first came out, being a huge fan my girlfriend witnessed my eager anticipation for the next game in the series. When it came out and she watched me play it, I had to go buy another copy of X to show her what a real FF was meant to be. She cried during that game.

But I've matured past the angst and seriousness of those types of stories; they seem marketed towards a younger audience, especially with Tetsuya Nomura's character design at the forefront.

Edit: I replayed XII recently after my new girlfriend played XIII after I did, then X, and then XII. Seeing her play it reminded me I needed to play it more thoroughly, so I did, using the guide on GameFAQs mentioned.

XII was a breath of fresh air, a true RPG for non-console RPG players (I am not one of those however). The depth of scope in the world, atmosphere, and different ways to play the game (see the powerthrough guide on Gamefaqs by Artsomething) that seem like they were put there to add to the world behind the scenes. Its characters were fantastic, they had plenty of character development, it just wasn't necessarily between each other in a typical romance or angst way.

The cast was an ensemble cast. Really look at the definition of that phrase to understand it. Vaan was put in the game as an everyman(boy), to relate what the player might think while exploring this world of mystery. Besides that, Yasumi Matsuno wanted Basche to be the main character, hence why the story between him and Gabranth is so central to the plot. You can thank your friends at Square Enix for thinking that an androgynous, youthful lead would relate better to the audience - which is why we consistently have the same whiny boy characters with ridiculous hair (Tetsuya Nomura). The stated reason was that Vagrant Story didn't sell that well with its strong, adult male lead, so they decided to add Vaan.

Yasumi Matsuno left SE, one of the reasons being that he wanted more control over the projects he lead.

lol ahhh Yasumi Matsuno, the reason we have Yasmat

Great fight

oh, XIII-2 given 40/40 and S rating by Famitsu and Dengeki respectively.

All I've seen in the trailers is still whining - I can ignore the characters if the gameplay is immersive and true RPG, not watered down for the modern gamer (who typically does not appreciate slow, fine-tuned statistical RPG gaming).

I don't think I focus too much on characters anymore. A good chemistry with other characters or their own environment is it - playing these games all my life, I don't think there's a story that could shock me anymore.

But I am a storyline buff first and foremost, don't get me wrong.

i liked this

Boring though o.o
My characters where undeveloped, it took me a couple of days on and off doing it D:

;;

This popped up while I was watching the video. Google knows way too much about my life.

HAH!

Edit: btw amazon, gamestop, and best buy all have diff pre-orders. (of course) and i want all 3... you can easily pre-order from all 3. buy them and return them same day (besides amazon) and still use the codes right? lol probably going to do that. if not just wait till after i use the codes to return them... just not sure if best buy will require the BOOK back...

I think I'll get the collector's edition. Canada doesn't have crystal edition, but I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a videogame related shirt anyway.

All I want is the hardcover case and artbook. I have a shelf of nice looking things (mostly bottles of liquor) that it would be a great addition to.

Thankfully our version doesn't come with those ugly steel cases.

This seems very interesting and fun.

Loved vagrant story and still wishing for a second despite the fact that they never will...

Final Fantasy 13-2 is now out in japan, there's walkthrough videos on youtube already.
I liked it.

Not gonna look at a single thing. FF is one franchise I hate spoiling by looking at walk-through videos. Trailers are bad enough with the amount of stuff they give away >_>

You mean I can get a tonberry or a chocobo in my party? :O

I like the look of it so far, I'm a teensy bit excited for it. I need to finish the first one though. I'm not really seeing Fang, Vanille, or Sazh in these new trailers though.. did they die or something? D:

they have a list of all the characters you can play and that show up in the story. as guests and such. idk where i saw it... ill look it up.