FFXIII-2 And WTF Is This

So there's comments flying around saying this track is and is not arranged, composed or organized or otherwise remixed by Uematsu.

Can anyone confirm? Even if it was him, it wouldn't surprise me because I recall in several interviews, that his basis for creating much of his music is built around various pop songs and essentially reverse engineering them. This one just happens to revolve around something rather... silly and dubious as previously implied and based in scenario.

On it's own. This track is a piece of garbage.
With proper context, this track can be hilariously bad.
Or simply a bad joke.

Yea they did change it quite a bit from what it originally was. but then again music now and taste has changed.

I do enjoy it even if its a bit more "Complex". cant wait to see ffxv with their new "Dubstep" version of chocobo theme. wonder if anyone will esplode from it.

Hopefully this isn't in the game. It's even worse than Otherworld from FFX.

Bad jokes still make me laugh xD but idk i heard the same thing but ill just assume it was touched by uematsu.

I like the music but the lyrics are trash. lol I find it cool to incorporate some slight form of metal into FF but when it becomes the Chocobo theme..yeeeaaah no. lol

Even Uematsu is going his own direction since his retirement from SE.
That's not to say he still doesn't do touch up works for them time to time, it's simply not on an official or credited level anymore.

He works for some funky company called Smile Please, and Dogear Records.
In fact he has a new band aside from his Black Mages called Earthbound Papas.

Odd, and interesting to say the least. We'll see where this goes.
Though next to Uematsu himself my other favorite game music composer was Yasunori Mitsuda for his world-wide cultural immersion within his musical score.

The Chrono Cross soundtrack is the perfect testimony to that.

I just feel Final Fantasy has very strong roots, and that they are trying to run away from what has succeeded for so long.

Yasunori Mitsuda hit me hard with chrono cross's soundtrack. one of if not my favorite of all.

I personally welcome it. because the last thing i want is Ff to turn into CoD. which is just a reskin of the previous game.

I can always look forward to the next ff being different and new. whether for better or worse. though that is me.

See that's the thing.
You fear a reskin, but for so many years they've taken an original unicellular concept design for a game and progressed it over the years with the most subtle forms of evolution. Different tones, angles of light, ambiance and contrasts taken on a single core, but ultimately retaining it's structure to the point of remaining identified. That was the beauty of it all. Moogles, Chocobos, Summons, the music around them, the background story of the crystal, none of this stayed or looked the same as time went on, but they all retained their identity and purpose despite the changes.

But with 13, it feels like a blatant disregard for what they've been successfully doing for so long.
Though it was ultimately inevitable. How much can you adjust a base item before it becomes something completely different on it's own?

Take Twilight for example if you will.
There's been many adjustments and evolutions of sort to Vampires as a whole. Between their intricate sophistication as counts, to being bloodsucking remorseless beasts. All having their own justification of sorts and still yielding to the core concept of what is a vampire and what they do. But Twilight just pretty much at some point said "*** it, these ones don't suck blood from people and they sparkle."

If you were a long time fan of vampire lore and history since Anne Rice, would you not feel alienated by that?

You can still be very different and unique while you stick to your roots, 1-9 in my opinion were huge successes.

10 starting to be different because well... I personally blame the PS2 and standards for higher graphics ultimately lowering story quality. Not that the story was horrible, it was good, I just feel it was lacking a huge chunk compared to how deep they got into stories in previous games. I disliked many many aspects of X-2 which made me hate X. I need to finish X-2 but it was becoming that much of a problem for me.

XII was great... until you looked at the story. It has a great theme, good characters... and they didn't use them to their full potential. The story ended as the worst story made in any FF game in my opinion. It could of been great but it was not done well at all.

I have not played XIII but I plan to. I don't have any opinion on it or XIII-2 except the two chocobo pieces I've listened to.

I said it earlier, if they made these games into a book as well as a game release I would buy the book too. The story means that much to me.

Correction i dont fear a reskin. but id rather see something new.

secondly ff has been changing for awhile. i think ff6 was the start... i mean a guy who used tools as weapons? and wrestler? that is not what ff was before it. it was classic warrior mnks mages and stuff..

then 7 came out. you got ppl using guns, barrette.. a wolf.. a cat XD. and it just kept changing from there. the only thing that stayed really was magic moogles chocos and summons. yet they were always implemented into the game differently.

Edit: um i hated twilight. sorry didnt read the books but the movies blew and and sparkly vampires was horrible.

See you're looking at things on a much more superficial level.
Demi-human characters and changes to the battle system with use of subsystems like tools and modes of battle don't really bother me.
In fact those kind of changes are welcome generally.

It's when you shake the foundations of what has made for a successful, and more importantly identifiable Final Fantasy title that I begin to worry to say the least.

Who said anything about twilight, that ***is horrible. <.<

Nvm, I see now lol

Also i loved 10. because i liked all the characters. even if tidus was a bit too... cheerful? lol and i think ur blind if you think 10 was where the ff series changed

Ninja edit. Sorry.
It was an example at neglected foundations and lore that created the basis for it's existence.

The quality of the story started degrading, not the actual theme and what they use in the story.

I am not looking at it superficial. i am simply stating 6 is when it changed from what it originally was and has always changed since then. im sorry but i know a lot of ppl who hated 6,7 and those because of those changes. though thats just because they love classic mages wizards and warriors "D&D stuff"

also twilight is a bad example and you should know that.

Nah, he has a point.
I didn't mind 10 so much aside from the dues ex machina ending.
But it did bother me that I felt trapped in going forward, which ultimately made the game feel rather short. It was kinda sad that your freedom was confined to simple mini games that happened to be in the same area as you were at the time rather than having a real sense of discovery.

Also, MFW I got the airship finally and I was greeted by a list of zones.






Actually Twilight is a perfect example for my argument that you overlooked.

6 is personally my favorite, 7 is up there but I don't think it was the best. I personally loved 9 more than 7.

like i said it just differs from person. i really enjoyed 10. its one of my favorites. i really liked the story. and it was quite successful.

and its either 9 or 10 that are my favorites

no twilight isnt. ff has been created by the same company and slowly changed... twilight is not. it is from a random author, i never liked her stories and never expected anything from them. it doesnt match up at all.

Raen explained the ending well and I think you should go and play 10 again with those things in mind, maybe it'll be more clear to you then. Things make more sense when we play through a few more times, we start to notice things we missed the first time or second time.

Emphasis on overlooked.

Also I read Raen's explanation and descriptive account of what happens, and it still makes me feel



Bobby Ewing all over again, I swear.
But yes, I will give it another chance.
After all it's been, what? 9-10 years since I last played it?

Everyone's gotta have something to argue about...

It's a discussion :(

Your wrong and i can prove it. we aren't arguing we are simply conversing our own opinions. /sarcasmattheirony

I think the problem most people have with FF in the past few years at least is that so little is left to the imagination.
I personally don't mind I think everyone is going to have FF's they prefer and ones they dislike. Just as some people will be okay with change and others wont.

XII haters replay XII knowing what elements of typical FF are excluded, and the idea of the 'ensemble cast' fresh in your mind. It's impossible to not love.

It's just not about a group of heroes fated to save the world, and it's a much better game for it. I hated it the first time too, being that X was the last I'd played (aside from XI) and I'd played it during puberty so its fated love story was what I came to expect.

I basically only pop up on these forums to defend XII.

I liked it too. i mean... besides when i play for 5hours without saving because im raping Hunts and then die by some stupid elemental and then ragequit because *** doing that ***again...ohwell.. but i did enjoy the story quite a lot. i like the political taste to it.