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 Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-12-16 03:52:23
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Zerging is hardly "dumb" as its a viable strategy. It's a boring one (imo) but it works.
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By Asura.Werdxi 2011-12-16 03:57:48
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when you have to expend time/merits/high kindred crests on a gamble that your DDs happen to or do not happen to have shadows at the right time vs a 100% victory to me says something. perhaps with a group of 6 pro DDs and that terroanima thing you might be able to do fine every time. but i did this with friends, some of which did not have epic gear. to say hat we easily won w/ some ppl not having even af3+2 is awesome.

and btw for a previous question i saw, you can para/slow him. how much skill you need to do this, idk
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 Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-12-16 04:08:58
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Have you ever heard of Alexander?
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By Phoenix.Zekky 2011-12-16 04:09:48
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Have you ever heard of Alexander?
You saying the only way to beat Alexander is by zerging? O.o;
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By Cerberus.Amanada 2011-12-16 04:11:16
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I think this thread should not degrade into those usual left-vs-right up-vs-down causal-vs-hardcore threads. The punch line is that the BC is not as hard as people think. Zerging (with cool gear and know how to zerg) by itself is not the problem. It is zerging used as a way to cover up the lack of knowing what to do is the true problem. Talking frankly, a large fraction of players are not very skilled.

If people like to zerg is their choice anyway:). I am not going to dictate what others going to do.
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2011-12-16 05:02:08
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Phoenix.Zekky said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Have you ever heard of Alexander?
You saying the only way to beat Alexander is by zerging? O.o;
lol'd so hard
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By Asura.Mekaider 2011-12-16 05:23:37
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Heard about people failing this BC alot.

Just built a pt w/ 4xMNK, 1WHM and 1SMN w/ Alex. We killed it easily, quickly and efficiently. Frankly, the WHM was a leech. I'd fill it w/ another MNK or if you're worried about your mnk's skill/dd capability take another smn w/ alex.

tl;dr - PD > 100 fists > spam asurans.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-16 17:31:39
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Anyone know what item weakens him?? And where to find it please?? That dude whopped our *** like 4 times in row. Please anything would help.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-16 17:33:17
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
Anyone know what item weakens him?? And where to find it please??
Monks, Summoner with Alex, Bard. Generally found in Jeuno
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-16 17:36:08
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Ok thank you. I heard there is a item that helps also. Is this true??
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-16 17:40:03
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Yeah
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-16 17:42:46
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Your a stud!!! Thank you. Guess it is time to farm!!
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-12-16 17:49:20
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Ramuh.Scizor said: »
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
5 mnks and a smn, Perfect Defense, Inferno Howl & Ifrit's favor, Won in 30 seconds.
I don't believe this for a second

I don't know. I was with a group last night with the same setup. No Ifrit's Favor or Inferno Howl, just perfect defense. We entered, everyone used reraise stuff, ate food, icarus winged, then SMN did his thing, then we walked up and started fight. There was no rush at all, and we were in there a little over 2 minutes.

So I think that if you wanted to push the time down as far as possible, you could cut a ton of that time off by just hustling once inside - maybe as much as a minute. Then, increase the damage output but planning out WS times, getting light after light after light skillchain. Idk, I bet it could be done.

Plus, maybe it was just the actual fight time being 30seconds, rather than entire time inside. That could be, too, and that is definitely doable.
 
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-16 18:34:34
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Thanks bro. This page bookmarked!!
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-12-16 18:41:04
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is he resistant to souleater? i didnt test that out. i would like to refight him at 99 with some classic kc drk.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-12-16 18:42:57
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Fenrir.Terminus said: »
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5 mnks and a smn, Perfect Defense, Inferno Howl & Ifrit's favor, Won in 30 seconds.
I don't believe this for a second

I don't know. I was with a group last night with the same setup. No Ifrit's Favor or Inferno Howl, just perfect defense. We entered, everyone used reraise stuff, ate food, icarus winged, then SMN did his thing, then we walked up and started fight. There was no rush at all, and we were in there a little over 2 minutes.

So I think that if you wanted to push the time down as far as possible, you could cut a ton of that time off by just hustling once inside - maybe as much as a minute. Then, increase the damage output but planning out WS times, getting light after light after light skillchain. Idk, I bet it could be done.

Plus, maybe it was just the actual fight time being 30seconds, rather than entire time inside. That could be, too, and that is definitely doable.

Replace a MNK with a SCH, Get Embrava, Enblizzard and Ice Storm. It works well.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-16 18:44:54
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Just dont want to have to file charges with the DA for another brutal raping that taru gave me!! Plus , I am busy. Don't have time to die a bunch.
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-12-16 19:18:43
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Brolli said: »
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Not sure if this is still possible, but...

he haves over 60+ dawn musulm of inventory space, it's quite possible

Seem that been done on the test server, he took 15 min to kill. Time limit is 10 min, so i guess is not possible anymore.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-16 19:23:13
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We always got him down to 16 to 26 percent. Then he went ape ***with WS!! I want to choke slam the person who put him in the game.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2011-12-16 19:29:33
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Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
We always got him down to 16 to 26 percent. Then he went ape ***with WS!! I want to choke slam the person who put him in the game.

Yah so long as 2 people get the Olde Rarab Tail item, in the case you described above, I can easily see you winning that same fight. His most dangerous time is during his 2hr, so using one item when he starts his 2hr, and again once it wears off will easily net you the win.

Him running around in circles isn't some crushing debuff, but he also isn't kicking the @#$@ out of you for 60 seconds (or more, if you want to bother getting more of those...or less, if you are feeling masochistic.) :p
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-12-16 19:33:07
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You can kite him easy if you have movement speed, or can buy Quencher in worse case, he always 2h at ~35%.

Edit: Even powder boots would work.
 
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-12-16 19:37:34
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2 BLM with movement speed probably able to duo it, anyone try that yet?
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By Bismarck.Fyesan 2011-12-16 20:55:20
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just finished him, we blew him up with 2 blms, brd ( mule), cor ( mule) ,rdm (mule), and whm ( mule). use tail stand in the center and rip him a new one, no 2hr require
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-16 22:33:14
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fixing to go with 5blms and monk, with 3 tails, think we will win?
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-16 22:44:54
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anyone ._.?
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-16 22:56:24
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STOP IGNORING ME!
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By Lynxblade 2011-12-16 23:07:48
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just beat it, almost got record, 1 sec away
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By Fenrir.Emirii 2011-12-16 23:08:01
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sooo...

did you win?

EDIT:

now i'm late!
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