Relic Upgrades

Not sure if this has been posted, but I tossed a couple pieces of relic and relic+1 at the moogle to see what would happen:

Duelist's Chapeau > Trial 4694 > 50 Forgotten thoughts > Duelist's Chapeau +2 (HP/MP+20, MND+5, Enfeebling skill +18, Refresh)

Duelist's Chapeau +1 > Trial 4695 > 30 Forgotten thoughts > Results in same chapeau +2

Head requires forgotten thoughts
Body requires forgotten hopes
Hands require forgotten touches
Legs require forgotten journeys
Feet require forgotten steps

Having Relic requires 50 forgotten items, Relic +1 requires 30 forgotten items. Haven't had a chance to pop into Dynamis yet to see what drops where/when/why/how, etc.

[Edit] In case people don't want to read through the thread for more information:

Forgotten Steps (Feet +2) in Jeuno, Bubu, Windy
Forgotten Touch (Hands +2) in Jeuno, Dunes, Sandy
Forgotten Journey (Legs +2) in Jeuno, Qufim, Bastok
Forgotten Hope (Body +2) in Xarcabard / Tavnazia
Forgotten Thought (Head +2) in Glacier / Tavnazia

Man, totally worth it to upgrade to +1 first. Gotta spend that 30 ancient currency to use 20 less forgotten items.

I guess it'll depend on how frequently they drop, or any circumstances surrounding making them drop. Hoping someone drops by Dynamis before I get around to it tonight.

I'm assuming the upgrade items will be a lot more difficult to get than ancient currency based on the reduction with having +1. Will find out soon I guess.

That would be my guess as well. Perhaps it still has to do with having subjobs locked in CoP zones.

I haven't been paying much attention...but these items...they drop in CoP dyna?

Just please not VW, I am dreading the metal plate stage for my Ukon.

Would assume so, but I haven't had the chance to find out yet.

I'm actually curious about the "Merit Stage" they had listed for upgrading AF2.

* [dev1044] New Magian Trials
o New weapon upgrade trials have been introduced to the current trial list.
o Relic and Relic +1 Armor will be upgradable via Trial of the Magians.
+ Two upgrade stages are available, each offering the following augmented attributes:
# Stage 1: Item-related augments
# Stage 2: Merit point-related augments
*Players will still be able to undertake these trials even if no information for them is displayed.
+ Upgraded armor pieces will have a higher level requirement than their base forms.
+ Armor pieces upgraded to Stage 2 will be storable with the Porter Moogle service.
*Relic and Relic +1 Armor will result in the same items after upgrading. Owners of Relic +1 Armor will be rewarded with less demanding conditions for the first upgrade stage.

I'm hoping to get my Chapeau +2 ASAP, depending on the drops (I have the +1, so should be easier to +2) and the drop rates, so hopefully I can fill more in on this soon. :)

Tried doing a Dyna Qufim run tonight. Out of a full run I was only able to get 2 forgotten journey to drop. I'm guessing that the higher lvl mobs are the one to target for these to drop.

Ok, so pants are from Qufim (tentatively), and someone else reported to me that they got feet (steps) from Bubu...

Got 4x forgotten thoughts from {easy prey} fomor in beaucedine glacier

Did you get those with or without procs (if you recall)?

4 from stirges, gaylas, and raptors. (2,1,1 distribution I believe)

All but one was procced. I think they are pooled with the af or -1.

Got 38 forgotten touches total off the tougher mobs, including both beastmen and nightmare mobs. BLU/DNC + THF/DNC all proc'd. THF hands +2 done woo.

Edit: They are not pooled with -1 or AF btw.

Also the +3 trial is 20,000 XP in dynamis - xarcabard or tavnazia.

What zone did you get forgotten touches in?

+3? what exactly goes on the +3? i am assuming augments on the +2 as there are no +3 items, what stats is on that? or am i totally misunderstanding this?

It must be augments. Like they said in the update notes, the moogle doesn't give you the info for the stage 2 version, so I don't know what it is. Touches are from any dynamis-valkurm mob, including beastmen.

Edit: Nvm found the info i was looking for

Can you link to some sort of extensive thread about this topic? I'm extremely interested in more info.

someone posted it on BG, basically the augments are:

War:
Trial 4954: Warrior's Mask +2: adds "Enhances 'Savagery' effect"
Trial 4955: Warrior's Lorica +2: Adds "Enhances 'Aggressive Aim' effect"
Trial 4956: Warrior's Mufflers +2: Adds "Enhances 'Mighty Strikes' effect"
Trial 4957: Warrior's Cuisses +2: Adds "Enhances 'Warrior's Charge' effect"
Trial 4958: Warrior's Calligae +2: Adds "Enhances 'Tomahawk' effect"

Mnk:
Trial 4959: Melee Crown +2: Adds "Enhances 'Penance' effect"
Trial 4960: Melee Cyclas +2: Adds "Enhances 'Formless Strikes' effect"
Trial 4961: Melee Gloves +2: Adds "Enhances 'Invigorate' effect"
Trial 4962: Melee Hose +2: Adds "Enhances 'Hundred Fists' effect"
Trial 4963: Melee Gaiters +2: Adds "Enhances 'Mantra' effect"

Whm:
Trial 4964: Cleric's Cap +2: Adds "Enhances 'Devotion V' effect" (May be a typo in translation, May mean you have to have the merit 5/5)
Trial 4965: Cleric's Briault +2: Adds "Enhances 'Benediction' effect"
Trial 4966: Cleric's Mitts +2: Adds "Enhances 'Martyr V' effect" (May be a typo in translation, May mean you have to have the merit 5/5)
Trial 4967: Cleric's Pantaloons +2: Adds "Enhances 'Shellra V' effect"
Trial 4968: Cleric's Duckbills +2: Adds "Enhances 'Protectra V' effect"

Blm:
Trial 4969: Sorcerer's Petasos +2: Adds "Increases Ancient Magic II damage"
Trial 4970: Sorcerer's Coat +2: Adds "Enhances 'Manafont' effect"
Trial 4971: Sorcerer's Gloves +2: Adds "Reduces Ancient Magic II casting time"
Trial 4972: Sorcerer's Tonban +2: Adds "Increases Ancient Magic II accuracy"
Trial 4973: Sorcerer's Sabots +2: Adds "Reduces Ancient Magic II MP cost"

Rdm:
Trial 4974: Duelist's Chapeau +2: Adds "Enhances 'Dia III' effect" and "Enhances 'Slow II' effect"
Trial 4975: Duelist's Tabard +2: Adds "Enhances 'Chainspell' effect"
Trial 4976: Duelist's Gloves +2: Adds "Enhances 'Phalanx II' effect"
Trial 4977: Duelist's Tights +2: Adds "Enhances 'Bio III' effect" and "Enhances 'Blind II' effect"
Trial 4978: Duelist's Boots +2: Adds "Enhances 'Paralyze II' effect"

Thf:
Trial 4979: Assassin's Bonnet +2: Adds "Enhances 'Aura Steal' effect"
Trial 4980: Assassin's Vest +2: Adds "Enhances 'Ambush' effect"
Trial 4981: Assassin's Armlets +2: Adds "Enhances 'Perfect Dodge' effect"
Trial 4982: Assassin's Culotte +2: Adds "Enhances 'Feint' effect"
Trial 4983: Assassin's Poulaines +2: Adds "Enh. 'Assassin's Charge' effect"

Pld:
Trial 4984: Valor Coronet +2: Adds "Enhances 'Iron Will' effect"
Trial 4985: Valor Surcoat +2: Adds "Enhances 'Fealty' effect"
Trial 4986: Valor Gauntlets +2: Adds "Enhances 'Chivalry' effect"
Trial 4987: Valor Breeches +2: Adds "Enhances 'Invincible' effect"
Trial 4988: Valor Leggings +2: Adds "Enhances 'Guardian' effect"

Drk:
Trial 4989: Abyss Burgeonet +2: Adds "Enhances 'Dark Seal' effect"
Trial 4990: Abyss Cuirass +2: Adds "Enhances 'Blood Weapon' effect"
Trial 4991: Abyss Gauntlets +2: Adds "Enhances 'Diabolic Eye' effect"
Trial 4992: Abyss Flanchard +2: Adds "Enhances 'Muted Soul' effect"
Trial 4993: Abyss Sollerets +2: Adds "Enhances 'Desperate Blows' effect"

Bst:
Trial 4994: Monster Helm +2: Adds "Enhances 'Killer Instinct' effect"
Trial 4995: Monster Jackcoat +2: Adds "Enhances 'Feral Howl' effect"
Trial 4996: Monster Gloves +2: Adds "Enhances 'Beast Affinity' effect"
Trial 4997: Monster Trousers +2: Adds "Enhances 'Familiar' effect"
Trial 4998: Monster Gaiters +2: Adds "Enhances 'Beast Healer' effect"

Brd:
Trial 4999: Bard's Roundlet +2: Adds "Enhances 'Foe Sirvente' effect"
Trial 5000: Bard's Justaucorps +2: Adds "Enhances 'Troubador' effect"
Trial 5001: Bard's Cuffs +2: Adds "Enh. 'Adventurer's Dirge' effect"
Trial 5002: Bard's Cannions +2: Adds "Enhances 'Soul Voice' effect"
Trial 5003: Bard's Slippers +2: Adds "Enhances 'Nightingale' effect"

Rng:
Trial 5004: Scout's Beret +2: Adds "Enhances 'Recycle' effect"
Trial 5005: Scout's Jerkin +2: Adds "Enhances 'Snapshot' effect"
Trial 5006: Scout's Bracers +2: Adds "Enhances 'Flashy Shot' effect"
Trial 5007: Scout's Braccae +2: Adds "Enhances 'Eagle Eye Shot' effect"
Trial 5008: Scout's Socks +2: Adds "Enhances 'Stealth Shot' effect"

Sam:
Trial 5009: Saotome Kabuto +2: Adds "Enhances 'Ikishoten' effect"
Trial 5010: Saotome Domaru +2: Adds "Enhances 'Overwhelm' effect"
Trial 5011: Saotome Kote +2: Adds "Enhances 'Blade Bash' effect"
Trial 5012: Saotome Haidate +2: Adds "Enhances 'Shikikoyo' effect"
Trial 5013: Saotome Sune-Ate +2: Adds "Enhances 'Meikyo Shisui' effect"

Nin:
Trial 5014: Koga Hatsuburi +2: Adds "Increases elem. ninjutsu III damage"
Trial 5015: Koga Chainmail +2: Adds "Enhances 'Sange' effect"
Trial 5016: Koga Tekko +2: Adds "Enh. 'Ninja Tool Expertise' effect"
Trial 5017: Koga Hakama +2: Adds "Enhances 'Mijin Gakure' effect"
Trial 5018: Koga Kyahan +2: Adds "Reduces elem. ninjutsu III cast time"

Drg:
Trial 5019: Wyrm Armet +2: Adds "Enhances 'Deep Breathing' effect"
Trial 5020: Wyrm Mail +2: Adds "Enhances 'Spirit Surge' effect"
Trial 5021: Wyrm Finger Gauntlets +2: Adds "Enhances 'Angon' effect"
Trial 5022: Wyrm Brais +2: Adds "Enhances 'Strafe' effect"
Trial 5023: Wyrm Greaves +2: Adds "Enhances 'Empathy' effect"

Smn: (I don't know if the hanging quotes are on purpose or typos, put them in parenthesis next to the pieces that have them)
Trial 5024: Summoner's Horn +2: Adds "Enhances 'Astral Flow' effect"
Trial 5025: Summoner's Doublet +2: Adds "Reduces Sp. 'Blood Pact' MP cost"
Trial 5026: Summoner's Bracers +2: Adds "Inc. Sp. 'Blood Pact magic burst dmg." (Inc. Sp. "Blood Pact magic burst dmg.)
Trial 5027: Summoner's Spats +2: Adds "Increases Sp. 'Blood Pact accuracy" (Increases Sp. "Blood Pact accuracy)
Trial 5028: Summoner's Pigaches +2: Adds "Increases Sp. 'Blood Pact crit. dmg." (Increases Sp. "Blood Pact crit. dmg.)

Blu:
Trial 5029: Mirage Keffiyeh +2: Adds "Enhances 'Convergence' effect"
Trial 5030: Mirage Jubbah +2: Adds "Enhances 'Enchainment' effect"
Trial 5031: Mirage Bazubands +2: Adds "Enhances 'Azure Lore' effect"
Trial 5032: Mirage Shalwar +2: Adds "Enhances 'Assimilation' effect"
Trial 5033: Mirage Charuqs +2: Adds "Enhances 'Diffusion' effect"

Cor:
Trial 5034: Commodore's Tricorne +2: Adds "Enhances 'Winning Streak' effect"
Trial 5035: Commodore's Frac +2: Adds "Enhances '' effect"
Trial 5036: Commodore's Gants +2: Adds "Enhances '' effect"
Trial 5037: Commodore's Culottes +2: Adds "Enhances 'Snake Eye' effect"
Trial 5038: Commodore's Bottes +2: Adds "Enhances 'Wild Card' effect"

Pup:
Trial 5039: Pantin Taj +2: Adds "Enhances 'Optimization' effect"
Trial 5040: Pantin Tobe +2: Adds "Enhances 'Overdrive' effect"
Trial 5041: Pantin Dastanas +2: Adds "Enhances 'Fine-Tuning' effect"
Trial 5042: Pantin Churidars +2: Adds "Enhances 'Ventriloquy' effect"
Trial 5043: Pantin Babouches +2: Adds "Enhances 'Role Reversal' effect"

Dnc
Trial 5044: Etoile Tiara +2: Adds "Enhances 'Trance' effect"
Trial 5045: Etoile Casaque +2: Adds "Enhances 'No Foot Rise' effect"
Trial 5046: Etoile Bangles +2: Adds "Enhances 'Fan Dance' effect"
Trial 5047: Etoile Tights +2: Adds "Enhances 'Saber Dance' effect"
Trial 5048: Etoile Toe Shoes +2: Adds "Enhances 'Closed Position' effect"

Sch
Trial 5049: Argute Mortarboard +2: Adds "Enh. 'Altruism' and 'Focalization'"
Trial 5050: Argute Gown +2: Adds "Enhances 'Enlightenment' effect"
Trial 5051: Argute Bracers +2: Adds "Enh. 'Tranquility' and 'Equanimity'"
Trial 5052: Argute +2: Adds "Enhances 'Tabula Rasa' effect"
Trial 5053: Argute Loafers +2: Adds "Enhances 'Stormsurge' effect"

Def22 STR+6 Attack+6 Last Resort Effect II

Trial 4993: Abyss Sollerets +2: Adds "Enhances 'Desperate Blows' effect"


:|... I'm guessing that this is going to be the cat's meow for my aftermath set with desp blows up o.o


Then again I've gotten my hopes up before

Keep relic pants on full time for one more set point ehhhh?

Gl with that tried Valkrum today this morning ... got 1 off a Yagudo Sam then nothing else for the rest of the run and I farmed both nightmare and beastmen mobs had th6 as base TH. Edit ( this from EP mobs)

DC mobs have a much higher chance of dropping the items

Incase people were wondering, the Forgotten items for relic +2 upgrades are not limited to only CoP Dynamis zones, did Xarcabard last night with my roommate and we get 5 or 6 Forgotten Hopes from Easy Prey Kindred, our main objective was finishing my lv95 Mandau trials which we completed pretty quickly and spent the rest of the run farming currency only to see a few of those drop.

Has anyone found the umbra stuff for relics weapons yet?

Also forgotten thought off orcs in beau

I got 4 Forgotten Touch in Valk last night, all off Nightmare mobs, all procced and EP. Haven't tried DC+ mobs yet, and still at 95.

Forgotten Step in Bubu
Forgotten Touch in Dunes
Forgotten Journey in Qufim
Forgotten Hope in Xarcabard

This leaves Thoughts. My guess is Tavnazia. (I may have missed a post with this verified already)

Edit: Actually, I just saw a post that mentioned a drop in Glacier. That's a relief.