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By Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar 2011-11-16 17:12:09
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Asura.Malekith said: »
Going with the former rather than the later... I know SE's gotten lazy but allowing us to spend merits to zoom past the second stage in a magian trial makes the least amount of sense given their approach thus far to ToTM.

just used google translate on the other languages so while not the best translation it does clarify that stage 2 augments tier 2 merit abilities . (the links are to the pages in original languages translate them as you want)

german to english: Second Level: Armor Item merit points improved properties
french to english: Step Two: improved characteristics obtained with merit points.
Japanese to english: Point increase in the performance benefits associated with second-stage
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-16 17:13:04
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Good, this seems a very interesting thing.
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2011-11-16 17:16:12
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Augments Group 2 you say?

Enhances "Overwhelm" is the first thing to come to mind. That would be sweet!
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By KothoftheHammer 2011-11-16 17:16:13
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Koga Tekko +2: Haste 4% entire time
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pls
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-16 17:24:15
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And they better let us upgrade relic accessories too!
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By KothoftheHammer 2011-11-16 17:33:16
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
And they better let us upgrade relic accessories too!
Might make people do dreamlands for them then!
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2011-11-16 17:48:37
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KothoftheHammer said: »
Koga Tekko +2: Haste 4% entire time
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pls

You forgot the STR+13 fulltime
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-16 17:49:43
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Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar said: »
Japanese to english: Point increase in the performance benefits associated with second-stage

I can't speak for French or German, but Google translated the Japanese completely wrong there (the words are out of order and it changes the meaning).
二段階目・・・メリットポイントに関連した性能の引き上げ
Second stage: merit point-related ability increase

You could also read it as "an increase to abilities that are merit point-related."
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By Asura.Malekith 2011-11-16 17:54:40
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Good look on the clarification weasel, but even with what you've said the end conclusion seems to be unchanged. Stage-two augmented relic is going to enhance/ augment merited abilities. Just remains to be seen if SE will get it right this time around and make relic something more than just a collection macro swap/towngear/inventory -1 pieces...
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-11-16 17:57:17
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Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar said: »
Asura.Malekith said: »
Going with the former rather than the later... I know SE's gotten lazy but allowing us to spend merits to zoom past the second stage in a magian trial makes the least amount of sense given their approach thus far to ToTM.

just used google translate on the other languages so while not the best translation it does clarify that stage 2 augments tier 2 merit abilities . (the links are to the pages in original languages translate them as you want)

german to english: Second Level: Armor Item merit points improved properties
french to english: Step Two: improved characteristics obtained with merit points.
Japanese to english: Point increase in the performance benefits associated with second-stage

What are you talking about? None of these translations suggest that the relic upgrades will augment tier 2 merit abilities... The second stage of the upgrade will focus on merit abilities (any), not just the second tier of merits. If they release these upgrades along with the level increase, I think it's safe to assume that the upgrades may augment merit abilities that we might not even have yet.
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-16 18:29:13
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It could be traits for all we know. Some jobs have mainly spells, not abilities, for T2 merits. My point was that it's probably not going to be attained by spending merits.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-11-16 18:29:28
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french to english: Step Two: improved characteristics obtained with merit points.

Looks like I was right
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-16 18:43:26
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Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
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french to english: Step Two: improved characteristics obtained with merit points.

Looks like I was right

I wouldn't trust bad Google translations, especially when it's gone from Japanese to French to English. You can read it both ways.

Step Two: improved characteristics are obtained with merit points
Step Two: characteristics obtained with merit points are improved
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2011-11-16 19:03:50
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I would hope we'd start seeing some augments toward merit abilities. C'maaawn 1000 damage Blade Bash...!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-16 19:05:49
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Diffusion and Convergence recast delay -5 mins

Would make them so much more attractive to merit.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-11-16 19:08:31
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Would also make my inventory explode!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-16 19:10:13
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I anticipate that it's gonna do that anyway. I have no idea what I'll do tbh, if all 5 pieces end up being useful I'll be at 82/80 with another 60 in sack and miscellaneous weapons in satchel. :\ No job out there more gear intensive than BLU. :C
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-16 19:37:48
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
It's not Kali style, but w/e.

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[dev1041] Relic Armor Upgrades

*The following content is still in development. Specific details may differ from the release version.

Relic Armor will be upgradable via Trial of the Magians.

Two upgrade stages will be available, each offering the following augmented attributes:
Stage 1: Item-related augments
Stage 2: Merit point-related augments
*Relic and Relic +1 Armor will result in the same items after upgrading. Owners of Relic +1 Armor will be rewarded with less demanding conditions for the first upgrade stage.

Upgraded armor pieces will have a higher level requirement than their base forms.

Armor pieces upgraded to Stage 2 will be storable with the Moogle Porter service.
I've been very busy this past week, and will be busy for another week so there most likely wont be any news topics from me in between :x
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-16 19:47:01
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
I anticipate that it's gonna do that anyway. I have no idea what I'll do tbh, if all 5 pieces end up being useful I'll be at 82/80 with another 60 in sack and miscellaneous weapons in satchel. :\ No job out there more gear intensive than BLU. :C
My SCH begs to differ. ; ;
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By Caitsith.Eriina 2011-11-17 18:56:20
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The problem with interpreting the translations of those two lines (as with any translation) is a lack of context. If you look at the line directly above the description of the two stages it becomes more clear:

二段階の強化が可能で、それぞれ以下の方向性で強化が行われます。
The key ambiguous word here is 方向性 which means "course of action" It does also interpret as "direction" or "trend", but only insofar as those words share a connotation with "course of action". I feel in this particular sentence that the "course of action" meaning (as in "way" or "method"), is more appropriate contextually. Resulting in the meaning:
There are two upgrade stages available, each upgrade will occur through the "course of action" below.

So in other words. Stage one: player uses items to upgrade armor. Stage 2: player uses merit points to upgrade armor.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-21 14:29:04
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Update!

11-21-2011 02:23 PM
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As I’m sure most of you are curious about the various upgrade possibilities for relic equipment, I bring you a tidbit of additional information to whet your appetite!

Currently the below is the direction the development team is heading in for relic equipment upgrades:

Stage 1: Enhancement of base stats creating a more powerful version of the original relic piece
Stage 2: Enhancements with unique properties that are different from that of other existing equipment (Example: enhancing merit point-related stats, etc.)

You can add this to your OP if you want to Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-21 14:39:02
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Done~
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-21 14:47:11
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i hope that doesnt mean that tier 3 merits are for relic armor. like u have to put them onto a relic piece in order to use it... thats not what it is right? D:
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-23 09:52:54
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For those who don't know, it's not yet specified on test server what kind of items are required, however it's 50 for non upgraded relics and 20 for +1.
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By Fenrir.Dibble 2011-12-13 06:53:23
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Hmmm, that quite a difference. 60% reduction :/
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