My half-assed off the top of my head list with weapons I've witnessed being used.
1. Caladbolg
2. Ukonvasara
3. Masamune
4. Amanomurakumo
5. Apocalypse
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My half-assed off the top of my head list with weapons I've witnessed being used.
1. Caladbolg 2. Ukonvasara 3. Masamune 4. Amanomurakumo 5. Apocalypse best weapons of all time:
1) Bee Spatha +1. The +2 bonus to accuracy is pwnt. 2) Hellfire Axe. Need I say more. 3) Gelong Staff. best HP recovery staff, took me to 90 whm. 4) Frost Reaper. Nothing cooler than a drk with badass ice dmg attacks. 5) Platoon Dagger. Best offhand weapon in the game. Hands. down. VERY surprised nobody said k club blood weapon soul eater..ESPECIALLY with scarlet delirium and JT that has soul eater do less dmg to you lol
Cerberus.Tikal said: » Most things resist it. And my post was a joke lol ... as were 90% of the responses K club sucks Leviathan.Arcas said: » Kenkonken. Bismarck.Eburo said: » My half-assed off the top of my head list with weapons I've witnessed being used. 1. Caladbolg 2. Ukonvasara 3. Masamune 4. Amanomurakumo 5. Apocalypse not sure if trollin... im actually kinda mad that kenkoken wasnt taken seriously. then again it's a pup weapon and no one takes pup seriously so i guess i should have expected it.
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » im actually kinda mad that kenkoken wasnt taken seriously. then again it's a pup weapon and no one takes pup seriously so i guess i should have expected it. Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » im actually kinda mad that kenkoken wasnt taken seriously. then again it's a pup weapon and no one takes pup seriously so i guess i should have expected it. As someone who mistakenly believed in certain untested(and highly unlikely) circumstances involving augmented KKK, its not likely to be nearly as good as originally projected. Assuming a similar path of upgrades as most mythic weapons' job-specific enhancements, the weapon is likely very mediocre. There's little reason to believe its any better than 90 Verethragna. I am wondering what some of you are smoking... (really Caladbolg #1?)
based on dmg dealing weapons... outside of abyssea 1. Ryunohige 2. Ukonvasara 3. Apoc 4+ is irrelevant Inside of Abyssea 1. Ukonvasara / Ryunohige You could reverse them depending on mob and number of mobs. But given what War can do inside abyssea. . . 3 Apoc Fenrir.Minjo said: » Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » im actually kinda mad that kenkoken wasnt taken seriously. then again it's a pup weapon and no one takes pup seriously so i guess i should have expected it. As someone who mistakenly believed in certain untested(and highly unlikely) circumstances involving augmented KKK, its not likely to be nearly as good as originally projected. Assuming a similar path of upgrades as most mythic weapons' job-specific enhancements, the weapon is likely very mediocre. There's little reason to believe its any better than 90 Verethragna. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » im actually kinda mad that kenkoken wasnt taken seriously. then again it's a pup weapon and no one takes pup seriously so i guess i should have expected it. As someone who mistakenly believed in certain untested(and highly unlikely) circumstances involving augmented KKK, its not likely to be nearly as good as originally projected. Assuming a similar path of upgrades as most mythic weapons' job-specific enhancements, the weapon is likely very mediocre. There's little reason to believe its any better than 90 Verethragna. I'd love to see some sort of numerical representation of your blanket statement about a weapon that hardly anyone has, and virtually nobody has substantial data on.
And, without any KKK-specific counter-evidence(read: there is none), Victory Smite is still a more powerful WS by a minimal margin(even with SP's favorable fTP). You also seem to be ignoring the nature of the game's current content. In Abyssea-esque situations, Verethragna has an undeniable advantage based solely on the nature of the weapons' respective aftermaths. In typical VW farming, damage is done in spurts, hardly in steady proportions. This, again, favors Verethragna. But all of that is largely irrelevant. You're arguing on behalf of a weapon that we know next to nothing about. Fenrir.Jinjo said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » Fenrir.Jinjo said: » Leviathan.Dodu said: » How is it possible that people still think that Yagrush is anything short of a novelty? Its usefulness was dramatically overstated in ye old FFXI, and it has continued to take a nosedive in practical application at a steady pace since then. I wouldn't say the usefulness was drastically overrated - it was pretty damn awesome. It shined mostly in places like Einherjar, though. And with Esuna, AF3 enhancements, and SCH readily available if you're even doing that, it has definitely dropped to novelty status (like most mythics). Its usefulness increases drastically if the people you play with have no idea what they're doing (People not knowing how to maintain a VW fight properly). Proper solution to people not knowing what the *** they're doing is to whip them into shape rather than making an entire mythic to deal with their idiocy. If we want job changing weapons, a more accurate example would be an Almace for BLU, or an Ochain for PLD, turning those jobs from ***to tolerable. The way you responded seemed to incite the fact that I would encourage someone to upgrade a a Yagrush. Lol. Apologies, general statement. Also: I could see KKK being a upper tier weapon, I cannot, however, see it being best. In my opinion, Ryunohige is probably the most powerful weapon that currently exists. ok you want to compare a weapon that has 39 attack, 51 delay, 17 str and an aftermath that has 0 effect on their auto to a weapon that has 39 attack, 49 delay (not including the martial arts effect) and multiple effects that increases damage done with your auto as well as you?
idk what kind of math you want me to find that would put varathragna over kenkoken. Good luck finding that though. edit: Oh right, abyssea, are we going back to that? if thats the case why isnt kannagi on the list? i mean blade hi made nin the best DD in the game right? Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » ok you want to compare a weapon that has 39 attack, 51 delay, 17 str and an aftermath that has 0 effect on their auto to a weapon that has 39 attack, 49 delay (not including the martial arts effect) and multiple effects that increases damage done with your auto as well as you? idk what kind of math you want me to find that would put varathragna over kenkoken. Good luck finding that though. edit: Oh right, abyssea, are we going back to that? if thats the case why isnt kannagi on the list? i mean blade hi made nin the best DD in the game right? lol wat Fenrir.Minjo said: » Victory Smite is still a more powerful WS by a minimal margin I see Kenkonken beating Verethraga for PUP easily. Pummmel was comparable to Smite without the 15% damage from the mythic 90, I'd say pummel is better with it. Better aftermath, lower delay, and the increase to automatons.
You dramatically overestimate the player:automaton output ratio, while simultaneously understating the effect of automaton upkeep, be it through maneuvers, curative actions, or what have you.
Like I said, when any of you have any reasonably accurate information regarding the weapon, I'd be willing to take a closer look. Until then, you're arguing about nothing. Valefor.Prothescar said: » lol wat Blanket statements upon blanket statements about something none of you know about. How inspiring.
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