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HNM fighting why are so many linkshells so picky
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By Carbuncle.Aliceisback 2009-04-27 14:24:13
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I am on Carbuncle server and it seems there are maybe 1 or 2 good HNM linkshells i always wanted to fight some of these HNMs but cant really do it by myself haha it seems to get into these linkshells u need so much accomplished in game what do u guys think about this?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-27 14:30:32
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I think that post needs some more periods and commas >.>
Seriously though, if an HNM shell can't claim they're gonna fall apart or find something else to focus on. Having only a few quality HNM shells on a server doesn't surprise me.
Also, in before Barrd finds this thread.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-27 14:33:34
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lolBarrd...

It's true most 'good' HNM shells require a TON from their members, and generally the only ones in them are the ones that consider FFXI a second 'job' and are on the game at least 40+ hours per week playing hardcore. If you're lucky you'll get into a relaxed end-game shell and get claim on some of those mobs you've been wanting to fight.
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By Carbuncle.Aliceisback 2009-04-27 14:33:36
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Ya like the only shells on my servers are reported of botting lol so its hard to start my own linkshell because of this
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-27 15:48:37
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lol dont forget the bots dont wish to be rated out

and lol if you have a bot you are in 100% of the time
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-27 15:51:00
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{Found it!}Barrd
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-27 15:52:13
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lol what i have thing i wish to say too lol
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Aliceisback said:
Ya like the only shells on my servers are reported of botting lol so its hard to start my own linkshell because of this


Well, if its only 2 other LS camping HNM, you should have a chance at claim, but its gonna be really slim. It is really difficult to beat out a bot, though it can be done.

Why do they require so much from members? Well, I've always looked at it like this...

The more you have accomplished in-game, more access you have, more clears you have, the more it shows you're willing to put in effort. A LOT of people want to only be Weekend Warriors in endgame shells, which is why its hard to start a new shell on most servers.

Also, the more you have accomplished, SHOULD mean the more experience you have. HNM shells need members with decent equipment and a lot of experience. The better geared and more experience, the less people you need at one monster.

Bahamut for Example:

LS A: Comes out to Fafnir with 1.5-2 Full Alliances. Takes 40-59 minutes to slay Faf/Nid.

LS B: Comes out with a full alliance, and a few people that can switch out for people that die. Take 15-40 minutes to kill faf, 40-50 to kill Nid.

LS C: Comes out with a partial alliance, kills Fafnir in 15 mins, kills Nid in maybe 20-30 mins.

LS D: Can kill Fafnir with 6 people in 10-15 minutes.

LS D has insane gear. Insane merits, but LS A claims 98% of every pop.

Gear, merits, experience all make a huge difference with HNMs. Try taking an alliance of people who only got their first LV75 within the past month, versus people that've been playing the endgame/HNM scene for a (Long Time). There's gonna be a huge difference.

Why Dynamis/Sea/Sky/Einherjar etc etc access for most HNM Shells? Because even though they're called an "HNM LS", HNM aren't usually the only thing they do. lol

Barrd, I like your avatar. What's it from?
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By Kujata.Gooby 2009-04-27 16:01:56
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Aledacia said:

Barrd, I like your avatar. What's it from?


Naruto ;o
 
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Gooby said:
Aledacia said:

Barrd, I like your avatar. What's it from?


Naruto ;o


I kinda thought so. >.> I can't stand watching the dubbed version, and can't find any subbed version online to watch, that doesn't require DL. ; ;
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-27 16:06:13
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Aledacia said:
Gooby said:
Aledacia said:

Barrd, I like your avatar. What's it from?


Naruto ;o


I kinda thought so. >.> I can't stand watching the dubbed version, and can't find any subbed version online to watch, that doesn't require DL. ; ;

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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-27 16:08:56
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Aledacia said:
Aliceisback said:
Ya like the only shells on my servers are reported of botting lol so its hard to start my own linkshell because of this


Well, if its only 2 other LS camping HNM, you should have a chance at claim, but its gonna be really slim. It is really difficult to beat out a bot, though it can be done.

Why do they require so much from members? Well, I've always looked at it like this...

The more you have accomplished in-game, more access you have, more clears you have, the more it shows you're willing to put in effort. A LOT of people want to only be Weekend Warriors in endgame shells, which is why its hard to start a new shell on most servers.

Also, the more you have accomplished, SHOULD mean the more experience you have. HNM shells need members with decent equipment and a lot of experience. The better geared and more experience, the less people you need at one monster.

Bahamut for Example:

LS A: Comes out to Fafnir with 1.5-2 Full Alliances. Takes 40-59 minutes to slay Faf/Nid.

LS B: Comes out with a full alliance, and a few people that can switch out for people that die. Take 15-40 minutes to kill faf, 40-50 to kill Nid.

LS C: Comes out with a partial alliance, kills Fafnir in 15 mins, kills Nid in maybe 20-30 mins.

LS D: Can kill Fafnir with 6 people in 10-15 minutes.

LS D has insane gear. Insane merits, but LS A claims 98% of every pop.

Gear, merits, experience all make a huge difference with HNMs. Try taking an alliance of people who only got their first LV75 within the past month, versus people that've been playing the endgame/HNM scene for a (Long Time). There's gonna be a huge difference.

Why Dynamis/Sea/Sky/Einherjar etc etc access for most HNM Shells? Because even though they're called an "HNM LS", HNM aren't usually the only thing they do. lol

Barrd, I like your avatar. What's it from?


O.oa You can go to Fafnir with 27-36 people and take 40 minutes to kill it? O.oa

Of course there's going to be a difference, but it's not going to be so vast that 6 people will kill a mob in 10 minutes that takes 27 people that are newly 75 w/ no merits and minimal 40 minutes to kill. Sure, you're trying to make a point, but you're going a little bit too far to the extreme there.

As for the Dynamis/Sky/Sea/Einherjar access... Only Sky/Sea take any work to get access to. You can even get access to Dreamlands Dynamis in a day or two.
Dynamis - Rank 6, easily done in a matter of hours.
Einherjar - Only need to be on like the 2nd ToAU mission.

Let's try to show some 'realistic' comparisons here.

And in a rare turn of events... Tbest acts nicely! :O

/sigh Ale, go to Hulu.com. They have like 150 Naruto/Shippuuden episodes, including the most current ones.
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By Carbuncle.Aliceisback 2009-04-27 16:17:10
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i have Sky sea and a well geared RDM 75 and decent gared 75 brd and thf. Lol I play this game so much easy 40 or so hrs a week if i got nothing in rl to do so i could be 100% commeted if it requires me to. Thing about starting my own ls tho is that it seems 90% of my server is Noobs that have no idea they are even playing FFXI :(
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-27 16:29:12
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Transfer to a server like Fairy? =)
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By Carbuncle.Aliceisback 2009-04-27 16:33:09
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Fairy any good? or would it be a waste of 25 bucks lol
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-27 16:39:20
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I'd say it's pretty good. =) We have ~5 or so 'big' HNM/End-game shells. My shell does the occasional HNM / sky guard fight, but we're mainly a Dynamis/Limbus shell that's startin up Einherjar as well. =)
 
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O.oa You can go to Fafnir with 27-36 people and take 40 minutes to kill it? O.oa

Of course there's going to be a difference, but it's not going to be so vast that 6 people will kill a mob in 10 minutes that takes 27 people that are newly 75 w/ no merits and minimal 40 minutes to kill. Sure, you're trying to make a point, but you're going a little bit too far to the extreme there.


I'm actually not joking or anything like that. I camped HNM for a good 6 months, and that was pretty much the state of things here on Bahamut, still is. lol One particular LS does take 2 alliances out, and still manage to rage faf/nid.

And uh >..> the LS that takes out 2 alliances has a mix of really awesome gear...............and really bad gear. Like Homam+Koenig Cuirass with Stamina Rings and a Beak Necklace. >.>

@Aliceisback: Thats how it is for me too. You'd think on Bahamut, with all the people, there'd be a lot of people looking for an LS... Sadly, thats not the case. People are either weekend warriors, or wanna do one thing at a time. W/o someone strict requirements, you will get a lot of noobs, and will be babysitting a LOT. ; ;
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-27 16:50:32
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Aledacia said:
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O.oa You can go to Fafnir with 27-36 people and take 40 minutes to kill it? O.oa

Of course there's going to be a difference, but it's not going to be so vast that 6 people will kill a mob in 10 minutes that takes 27 people that are newly 75 w/ no merits and minimal 40 minutes to kill. Sure, you're trying to make a point, but you're going a little bit too far to the extreme there.


I'm actually not joking or anything like that. I camped HNM for a good 6 months, and that was pretty much the state of things here on Bahamut, still is. lol One particular LS does take 2 alliances out, and still manage to rage faf/nid.

And uh >..> the LS that takes out 2 alliances has a mix of really awesome gear...............and really bad gear. Like Homam+Koenig Cuirass with Stamina Rings and a Beak Necklace. >.>

@Aliceisback: Thats how it is for me too. You'd think on Bahamut, with all the people, there'd be a lot of people looking for an LS... Sadly, thats not the case. People are either weekend warriors, or wanna do one thing at a time. W/o someone strict requirements, you will get a lot of noobs, and will be babysitting a LOT. ; ;


That's just... Sad... Very sad.

And we were all noobs at one point! <.< >.>
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By Fenrir.Kenshinn 2009-04-27 16:50:38
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Aledacia said:
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Barrd, I like your avatar. What's it from?


Naruto ;o


I kinda thought so. >.> I can't stand watching the dubbed version, and can't find any subbed version online to watch, that doesn't require DL. ; ;


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