I've noticed in young children that a simple, forceful tone is enough to stop them in their tracks. Most children live to please their parents when they're young. Teens, of course not.
Does anyone know the severity of the girl's cerebral palsy? I know there are different degrees. My neighbor, who is a year older than me, has it. He's a sports writer for one of our local papers, has a wife and a son. Despite a few complications and surgeries that spanned from his childhood through college, he's pretty normal.
The judge shouldn't have let loose on his daughter like that, but she also should have had at least a small amount of respect for the person who fed and clothed her and his position within the community.
GDI! Mustang Island is so nice too. :/
Judge William Adams Beats Daughter
Judge William Adams beats daughter
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
I've noticed in young children that a simple, forceful tone is enough to stop them in their tracks. Most children live to please their parents when they're young.
Hehe, you haven't met my 5 year old son. He is hard-headed. You can actually see him contemplating the consequences before he does something he knows is wrong.
Of course, he is just like his father...
edit: That being said, that judge was quite excessive there.
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
The judge shouldn't have let loose on his daughter like that, but she also should have had at least a small amount of respect for the person who fed and clothed her and his position within the community.
GDI! Mustang Island is so nice too. :/
GDI! Mustang Island is so nice too. :/
Why would you have any respect for a person who treats you like that? Fear, sure. Respect? Not a bit.
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Nevill said: »
Hehe, you haven't met my 5 year old son. He is hard-headed. You can actually see him contemplating the consequences before he does something he knows is wrong.
Of course, he is just like his father...
edit: That being said, that judge was quite excessive there.
Of course, he is just like his father...
edit: That being said, that judge was quite excessive there.
I see nothing wrong with a swat when it's deserved. I've had to smack my nephew's hand for getting close to the grill and trying to open the oven while it was on, but it was followed by an explanation afterwards.
Headstrong, I never said that I condoned an all out beating. Still backreading. Was this the first account of domestic abuse?
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Nevill said: »
Hehe, you haven't met my 5 year old son. He is hard-headed. You can actually see him contemplating the consequences before he does something he knows is wrong.
Of course, he is just like his father...
edit: That being said, that judge was quite excessive there.
Of course, he is just like his father...
edit: That being said, that judge was quite excessive there.
I see nothing wrong with a swat when it's deserved. I've had to smack my nephew's hand for getting close to the grill and trying to open the oven while it was on, but it was followed by an explanation afterwards.
Headstrong, I never said that I condoned an all out beating. Still backreading. Was this the first account of domestic abuse?
If you're talking about the video then I really really really really really doubt that.
I didn't watch the video. I've learned that some people on here post some gruesome things that I can live without seeing. I think after the "baby in the microwave" article from CA I've been a little more apprehensive about some of the bizarre threads made on AH.
Pretty obvious that it wasn't the first time I take it?
Pretty obvious that it wasn't the first time I take it?
Video not gruesome. Just watch the first couple of minutes and you get the gist.
What... the ***.
I just saw this on the news... This is ridiculous, he beat her like a slave.
I just saw this on the news... This is ridiculous, he beat her like a slave.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Fenrir.Emirii said: »
Well it's definitely in the works for some sort of arrest, this guy won't be in office very long. Hopefully she gets some justice. If we post a news story on our website i'll post it here.
The girl is going to be hated by her family. Whatever "justice" she gets won't be worth it.
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I sat through the full video..but i had to take breaks...that ***was brutal........
I've had to spank my lil bro and sis before, and it does work actually. Unfortunately, due to circumstances as they were in life, I didn't fully raise them (as in I wasn't there for their ENTIRE adolescence), but one turned out ok :). The other is a lil rough around the edges though lol.
edit: point being some spankings can work... honestly they are a good deterrent, IF AND ONLY IF you know moderation and when to stop. That judge was just entirely out of line.. and the whole "do you see the problems computers in the house" cause spiel they went on as parents, just goes to show how ***-backwards they are.
I've had to spank my lil bro and sis before, and it does work actually. Unfortunately, due to circumstances as they were in life, I didn't fully raise them (as in I wasn't there for their ENTIRE adolescence), but one turned out ok :). The other is a lil rough around the edges though lol.
edit: point being some spankings can work... honestly they are a good deterrent, IF AND ONLY IF you know moderation and when to stop. That judge was just entirely out of line.. and the whole "do you see the problems computers in the house" cause spiel they went on as parents, just goes to show how ***-backwards they are.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
edit: point being some spankings can work... honestly they are a good deterrent
Yea, Im from the school of that(funny enough my mothers only ever had to do it twice in my life). I know a half the people here are for it or against it. Personally I think as a parent you should see what works best with your child/children. Some react better to physical punishment others to groundings/removing of enjoyments. Personally mixing it up abit has always had great results.
I think whatever direction a parent goes, they should be level headed when they do it and not out of anger because things like this video can result, even if youre not a malicious person. Youd be surprised at what an impact you will have with your kids if you sit down and talk to them before you instill your punishment on why you are going to do what you doing and why they're actions were wrong. Show them love in your actions, but be firm to retain their respect.
As far as the video goes, its clear he went too far in his actions, though honestly she had PJs on, the actual physical pain is really not as high as you might imagine(take it bare and youll see what I mean)and no Im not condoning it either its plain wrong. If anything, the emotional damage that he inflicted is really the crime here. Its unexcuseable.
And now your moment of zen:
Mrs Adams: "You turn over like a 16 year old.........and take it like a grown woman"
Nice one mom.........
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Siren.Clinpachi said: »
In the absence of the common sense in this thread, i was raised with the understand that if i lied, cheated, stole, or any variations within, i would be severely punished with not only being physically screamed at to the point of fear, but one to two good strong hits with a belt. I would then be confined to my room or "grounded" as so few of you know it as. No TV, No Nintendo or no Toys period. I also wasn't allowed to go outside and play. Just a man and his thoughts. I was also given wine at dinner sometimes as most of my family is Italian. I was also given tastes of things which immediate I thought "eww beer is nasty" or baileys irish cream which is even worse to a kid who normally enjoyed the taste of soda or kool-aid even. What was the end result? I typically never did any wrong by anyone and I never got huge into the party scene because drugs/alcohol was such a retardedly forbidden pleasure in your life that you feel the need to live in a bottle becuase it's the "cool" or "in" thing to do. OR alternatively to forget about how shitty your life actually turned out to be so you drink. My father was a truly abusive man, if you even remotely thought this video was bad i wish someone would have taped him instead. Luckily i had a good mother who didn't stand for it very long. 99% of the people in this thread will never understand the true meaning of raising a kid right, ever. "oh my he used that belt as a weapon on that poor girl" "a belt should never be used to hit a child" "you shouldn't have to hit a child and instil fear to raise someone right" Is the entire reason this new generation is the most amazing band of *** this country has ever seen. Yes.. the video is wrong.. i stated that several times But i clearly stand behind a good ole fashioned passionate *** whooping and always will. All you have to do is come in the room after awhile and explain what just happened and why you had to whip him/her. Enjoy pirating all of your music, movies, and videos by the way... your slowly killing the entire entertainment industry by stealing money straight from artists/designers pockets which leads to slow technological developments or new content. COULD also be the reason behind some of the economy as well.
^This
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Just heard about this.
All I want to say is that ***isn't abuse. It's called discipline. Kids these days lack it.
All I want to say is that ***isn't abuse. It's called discipline. Kids these days lack it.
Cerberus.Kalyna said: »
Just heard about this. All I want to say is that ***isn't abuse. It's called discipline. Kids these days lack it.
How much discipline did he show going in there and whipping her like that? What did he accomplish? He did it so much that his daughter taped him instead so whatever he was doing clearly didn't work and decided to bit him on the *** instead.
When we discipline children there should be a goal not hey you did something wrong now I'm gonna whoop the crap outta you.
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Good news, apparently in texas since the girl waited 7 years before showing this video the father cannot be charged, he can continue being a judge. Good job texas!!! Sick...........
I've been keeping up on this story via Twitter. It shows a large disconnect between the older generations and younger generations. For instance, the father signed up on twitter and is trying to deface her by posting things she's said in forums. https://twitter.com/#!/HonorJudgeAdams The link to the forum post is in his third tweet.
Now, anyone in this forum can tell you that saying outlandish things is pretty common on the internet(even for otherwise really nice people). It's amazing that the judge is trying to spin this to discredit her when there's video evidence of him straight up beating the piss out of her.
Her twitter page is https://twitter.com/#!/shoeofallcosmos and she's been very mature throughout this whole thing. Most of us have times where we use the internet's anonymity to vent on days that we're pissed off, so no matter what stuff the judge pulls up from her forum history is irrelevant to me.
Now, anyone in this forum can tell you that saying outlandish things is pretty common on the internet(even for otherwise really nice people). It's amazing that the judge is trying to spin this to discredit her when there's video evidence of him straight up beating the piss out of her.
Her twitter page is https://twitter.com/#!/shoeofallcosmos and she's been very mature throughout this whole thing. Most of us have times where we use the internet's anonymity to vent on days that we're pissed off, so no matter what stuff the judge pulls up from her forum history is irrelevant to me.
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Fenrir.Emirii said: »
Well it's definitely in the works for some sort of arrest, this guy won't be in office very long. Hopefully she gets some justice. If we post a news story on our website i'll post it here.
The girl is going to be hated by her family. Whatever "justice" she gets won't be worth it.
Yes, that is the sensible way to look at it, but in families of abuse, it's likely that it has been an ongoing problem throughout at least a couple of generations.
This tweet alone shows me that the blow-back has already influenced some outer family members to react:
Quote:
Mom's mother is supportive yet scared, and Dad's father told me he never wanted to see me again. :(
The mother has divorced her father so at least she'll garner support from that side of the family. But if already 2 male figures of the father's side of the family is at arms with Hillary, you can guess the effect of that on the rest of that family.
Odin.Liela said: »
I know many people, some of my relatives included, would agree with you. I personally believe that a child can be sufficiently punished by just a smack or two on the *** with your bare hand. The fact that he used a belt was abusive, in my opinion, because no one ever needs to use a weapon on a child. He was definitely using it as a weapon. The fact that he hit her several times, even after she was crying and begging him to stop, was nauseating. This man was cruel and merciless. It's probably wrong of me to hope that someday someone is just as cruel and merciless to him as he was to this child, but I do hope that. :-(
Because of what I went through in my own childhood I have a strong urge to be violent toward people being violent. I think that sometimes a little spanking is understandable but the second a person talks about using a weapon on a kid I see red. Actually striking a child in my presence hard enough to make that cracking sound while the kid begs for mercy and/or with any object such as a belt is likely to get the person doing it a trip to the ER. I should probably have years of therapy I'll never be able to afford.
I couldn't finish watching the video. What angered me most before I stopped the video was the mother coming in an pointing her finger. A lot of focus is on the father here and she obviously is also abusive.
As far as him having been a judge...He thinks his daughters copyright infringement and/or how it reflects on him should be punishable by BEATINGS. Definitely don't want his kind in any kind of public office especially not where laws or their interpretation are concerned.
I'm surprised so many people here agree that spanking your kids is a legitimate form of punishment even after watching this.
I'm also of the opinion that spanking your kids is probably a good idea, that pirating media on the Internet when your dad is a judge warrants punishment...but that the punishment in the video severely crosses the line into physical abuse, and that she's way too old to be treated that way in the first place.
I'm also of the opinion that spanking your kids is probably a good idea, that pirating media on the Internet when your dad is a judge warrants punishment...but that the punishment in the video severely crosses the line into physical abuse, and that she's way too old to be treated that way in the first place.
Bismarck.Selzak said: »
I'm surprised so many people here agree that spanking your kids is a legitimate form of punishment even after watching this.
I'm surprised people call that spanking when it's clearly abuse.
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Psycho Slip said: »
Bismarck.Selzak said: »
I'm surprised so many people here agree that spanking your kids is a legitimate form of punishment even after watching this.
I'm surprised people call that spanking when it's clearly abuse.
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McALLEN, Texas (AP) — The Texas Supreme Court suspended a judge Tuesday whose beating of his then-teenage daughter in 2004 was viewed millions of times on the Internet.
Aransas County court-at-law Judge William Adams was suspended immediately with pay pending the outcome of the inquiry started earlier this month by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, according to an order signed Tuesday by the clerk of the state's highest court.
The order makes clear that while Adams agreed to the commission's recommended temporary suspension and waived the hearing and notice requirements, he does not admit "guilt, fault or wrongdoing" regarding the allegations. His attorney did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press seeking comment. Link.
Aransas County court-at-law Judge William Adams was suspended immediately with pay pending the outcome of the inquiry started earlier this month by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, according to an order signed Tuesday by the clerk of the state's highest court.
The order makes clear that while Adams agreed to the commission's recommended temporary suspension and waived the hearing and notice requirements, he does not admit "guilt, fault or wrongdoing" regarding the allegations. His attorney did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press seeking comment. Link.
You're seriously going to have bring out something better than Dr. Phil..
Turning to Dr. Phil for advice is like turning to Fox News for unbiased reporting.
Is It Working for the Long-Term?
As Phil told Nickie and Brent, "If it's working so well, why does your child continue to push you to the edge?" Spanking your kids may work to suppress his or her bad behavior temporarily, but it isn't a learning type of discipline. The message they get from being spanked is "I'm a bad kid," which doesn't help your child figure out what he or she did wrong " or how to keep from doing it again!
Perfect example of why..
It doesn't matter WHAT punishment you utilize, your child will continue to 'push you to the edge'.. It's what they do, they constantly push you to the edge.. It's how they learn what's acceptable and not, it's how they learn boundaries. You can't judge a punishments effectiveness by whether your child continuously 'pushes you to the edge' if you did, you'd run out of tactics at about 3-5. (And that's a very generous estimate.)
Turning to Dr. Phil for advice is like turning to Fox News for unbiased reporting.
Is It Working for the Long-Term?
As Phil told Nickie and Brent, "If it's working so well, why does your child continue to push you to the edge?" Spanking your kids may work to suppress his or her bad behavior temporarily, but it isn't a learning type of discipline. The message they get from being spanked is "I'm a bad kid," which doesn't help your child figure out what he or she did wrong " or how to keep from doing it again!
Perfect example of why..
It doesn't matter WHAT punishment you utilize, your child will continue to 'push you to the edge'.. It's what they do, they constantly push you to the edge.. It's how they learn what's acceptable and not, it's how they learn boundaries. You can't judge a punishments effectiveness by whether your child continuously 'pushes you to the edge' if you did, you'd run out of tactics at about 3-5. (And that's a very generous estimate.)
Psycho Slip said: »
You're seriously going to have bring out something better than Dr. Phil..
Turning to Dr. Phil for advice is like turning to Fox News for unbiased reporting.
Turning to Dr. Phil for advice is like turning to Fox News for unbiased reporting.
how are you going to compare him to news commentary?
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
You're seriously going to have bring out something better than Dr. Phil..
Turning to Dr. Phil for advice is like turning to Fox News for unbiased reporting.
Turning to Dr. Phil for advice is like turning to Fox News for unbiased reporting.
how are you going to compare him to news commentary?
You don't go to Fox News to make develop informed opinions/decisions on matters, you don't go to Dr. Phil to make informed opinions/decisions.
EDIT: I'm not necessarily trying to debate what's in the links.. My post was entirely due to the Dr. Phil portion. I'm not just going to change my parenting practices because there's 'scientific evidence' against physical punishment or anything, so don't get that idea and go on a diatribe of link posting and article quoting.. All I'm saying... Well quite frankly, that only idiots take anything he has to say seriously.
I disagree.
I'll look into hunting down the said research later, going to bed for now.
I'll look into hunting down the said research later, going to bed for now.
Read my edit before you do.
Ignoring evidence that you are doing harm to your child not only makes you a horrible person but a fool.
Assuming there is such evidence.
That's a very broad statement though, even though I don't agree with everything he says.
Assuming there is such evidence.
That's a very broad statement though, even though I don't agree with everything he says.
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