Judge William Adams Beats Daughter

Stealing that 20% of profits from a developer or band is hardly fair considering it is the publishing or record company taking you to the cleaners.

That's like me punching your child because they are ugly. It makes me feel good, but it does nothing to correct the problem, nor does it encourage you to help me in any way.


Bolded: Taking something that you have neither earned or paid for= stealing

blablabla...
now where is my belt... this mithra needs some spanking.

I know people that understand it perfectly and that they still do it.

Thieving intellectual property without making profit off it however it's impossible to stop now, the only way to would to have fascism take control.

I don't mind stealing from people who have more money than they know what to do with and I resent paying for a product only to find out it's inferior and I can't get my money back so they end up getting rewarded for shoddy work.

If a band puts out good music and I enjoy it I'll make a point of getting my money into their pockets.

The notion that I should have to pay for an album before I'm allowed to listen to it is absolutely silly.

Someone on youtube actually said this:

In the case of pirateing music it is black and white since having the music is not an essential though it's not something I tend to judge someone on given how widespreed it is. When you get into things such as a starving man stealing a loaf of bread that's when it goes into the grey area.

I missed lunch and now I regret it... thank you.

Well that's always good.


This is contradictory to your beginning sentence. Psychology would serve no role if all children did behave rationally. I'm beginning to suspect you aren't versed.


Far from a stretch, also contradictory to your beginning sentence. A kid getting spanked once does not turn them "bad". Your example is a good point towards that. However, that is not the ending goal of what Psychology refers to as "severe mental health issues".


Not every expert is right. I would wager that a good 90% of them are wrong myself. A spanking being effective for an immediate health concern is a correct action. Using hitting or any other physical response for minor problems, or behavioral issues, shows that you made a mistake many steps before hand. It is unnecessary.


I don't disagree with you here. People have gotten too afraid of things like germs and whatnot that we are putting ourselves in a rather dangerous rabbit hole. That being said, there are advances. Child Psychology as allowed us to understand what works when, and how actions can have good or negative (and sometimes severely negative) impacts on their well-being. As well as the co-relation of actions taken upon them between 0-11 and their later life decisions. Which, by the way, doesn't always have to be spankings or physical abuse.

Hypothetical: I pirate an album from my favorite band. I donate $20 to them directly via Paypal. I purchase memorabilia from their store. Am I stealing?

Yes, because it's not your decision to make on what is the proper way to pay a band for their music. While i agree the record labels rob the artists, the equipment used to produce those albums as well as the marketing is slightly more expensive than you think.

Do the artists have all that equipment? No... not even close.

Now your getting into a grey area because you go a step further but lets be fair here, the average person who pirates music doesn't go and donate to the band everytime the get something they like do they? They just get it and leave it at that.

yes. because you did not buy the product that is being sold in stores. You donate $20 to them that is another thing than going into the store or ordering it online and actually buy it. at least for me.
If i donate to a band group w/e it's not because i pirated something beforehand. I donate because i want to without thinking i owe it to them. but maybe that is just me.

Legally, you're correct, but for the wrong reason. It's illegal because the copy-right charges were usurped.

And on a side note, some bands do their own recording, in their own studios. Large companies fund newer, less established bands, and distribute.

@Ina: You're right, most don't. My postulation was to show that there is grey area. From a normal perspective, I'm not stealing, I'm actually a great customer, but legally it is the opposite.

YOu're stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, you're Robin Hood!

If I download "In Rainbows" Radiohead album and send them whatever money I can afford to spend on it, am I stealing?

Hypothetical Me:

Good legal ethics are a poor excuse for bad moral ethics. She makes a specific note that the music she pirated wasn't yet available for legal purchase. Many people, myself included, tend to pirate an item till it becomes available for purchase, then get a real copy. Pirating is defined as taking a product which in turn deprives a company of what otherwise would have been a sale, in this case no sale is lost, I bought it regardless.

EXTREME... EXTREEEEEME ignorance to think that everyone does this.

"I'll pay you later".

Woosh.

Actually, you aren't a great customer either. If everyone went this route, the record label would go out of business and that band you love would have to produce the CD themselves. Now they either have to make due with cheap equipment and your next CD from them is of lesser quality, or they are out big money starting their own label and procuring the necessary equipment. They put a digital copy block on all future media and their fame and customer base weans because of it. Now you have effectively (while inadvertently) become a part of censorship.

This thread is *** epic. Seriously.

First whipping your kids with a belt is so wrong everyone should go to jail for it, now you all think you have the right to pirate music and pay the band directly. You want to circumvent every aspect of life and live as you see fit.

Amazing is the only word to sum all of this up.

Where did I say everyone? I said many people. As in "a large quantity".
And you call me ignorant? In this world based entirely on credit why is "I'll pay you when you want my money" so wrong? Its not theft, its using the product till the company you're purchasing it from will TAKE your money.

*edit* And for the record, beating your kids period is wrong. It destroys the trust a parent should share with their child. You don't need to be your kids best friend, but if you can think of no other way to deal with a child other than to *physically assault them*, you've failed entirely as a parent. How would you like it if because I disagreed with your actions I started beating *you* with a belt. A Person is a person, even one as morally objectionable as yourself has a right to be treated humanely.

I just realized I've actively been in topics that were neither "Pics that make you LOL..." or Religion based.




/stops

The only problem is your 'large quantity' is a mere drop in the bucket to all the people that think they are entitled to free media/information/cookies every day, just because they blessed the earth with waking up said day.

1) They always want your money right now
2) do you understand how credit works?

Sorry let me spell it out for you.

"Everyone in your large quantity".

I know for a fact 50% of a group who pirates music in attempt to "pay for it when it comes out" never actually do. I don't care if you claim yourself or just a group of 20 people. Someone is going to skip out because they can. Who is going to pursue them?

I totally read this as William Adama.

Slowpoke

Wow, I didn't expect this to end up here. This is my news station territory, and we are buzzing about over this. It's really sad but we can't air anything yet because we can't get confirmation if it's really him.

We have talked to our station lawyer and hopefully the daughter will give us some sort of confirmation that it is really her parents in written documentation.

Also this video was created in 2004, it is now 2011. The stature of limitations have expired and legal action against the father is no longer possible, although it would get him kicked out of office.