Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
There are some job traits implemented, but I won't be doing any big testing until Windower comes out with a new hook and KParser comes out with a memlock that works with the test server.
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: » There are some job traits implemented, but I won't be doing any big testing until Windower comes out with a new hook and KParser comes out with a memlock that works with the test server. When I do the workaround, it confines my mouse to the FFXI window. Not acceptable.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Also, Camate revealed yesterday that TH can't proc on weaponskills, lol. So when you use SA->WS you actually are wasting a potential for TH proc. Cerberus.Wolfshadow
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: » When I do the workaround, it confines my mouse to the FFXI window. Not acceptable. also since I didn't adjust my resolution in config it looks like a relatively tiny playscreen surrounded partially by pitch blackness Even if I alt-tab, I still can't use my mouse. I was tabbing around trying to look things up yesterday.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Also, Camate revealed yesterday that TH can't proc on weaponskills, lol. So when you use SA->WS you actually are wasting a potential for TH proc. Unless you're reading something different from the one I'm thinking, I don't think he said that. He's referring to the whole "You can't see additional effect procs on weaponskills." Since TH procs are considered additional effects, it CAN proc on weaponskills (very common to see with RNG weaponskills and additional effects on arrows) and you will just not know if it went off or not until you proc again on a melee swing. I read the entire post and may have missed this but... was the triple attack flourish the only added JA so far? How about that what I assume to be a samba that gives what I assume to be regain?
Also, has anyone tested DNC against VWNM? I've tanked Pancimanci (regular server) so far and it worked well, but not sure about the rest of the current/new VWNM. Sylph.Gobbo said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Also, Camate revealed yesterday that TH can't proc on weaponskills, lol. So when you use SA->WS you actually are wasting a potential for TH proc. Unless you're reading something different from the one I'm thinking, I don't think he said that. He's referring to the whole "You can't see additional effect procs on weaponskills." Since TH procs are considered additional effects, it CAN proc on weaponskills (very common to see with RNG weaponskills and additional effects on arrows) and you will just not know if it went off or not until you proc again on a melee swing. Well, maybe he's confused about how it works, but he's pretty explicit about what they're patching. I doubt he would go into all the "When combining a weapon skill with Sneak Attack/Trick Attack, the rate of increase will be the same as using Sneak Attack/Trick Attack" stuff if that's how it works right now. Maybe offhand hits can upgrade or something at the moment? Also yeah, the TA Flourish is the only new JA we get. The other idea is probably going to be for the 99 patch. Offline
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Fenrir.Yuriki said: » Also, has anyone tested DNC against VWNM? I've tanked Pancimanci (regular server) so far and it worked well, but not sure about the rest of the current/new VWNM. I only fought T1-3 on DNC and only a few times but what I remember is the following: Naked accuracy sucks (naked = no food + "abyssea" tp gear) even with phurba+dex kila. Even presto+step missed more than I would have expected. Accuracy of mobs wasn't terrible, but just slapping on 2 eva kilas wasn't enough to cap. I didn't do much outright tanking though, but at the current level the only ones I had trouble with are those that had hate reset moves. Violent flourish works well until it starts getting resisted, even with good mag acc gear + lvl 5 stutter. We don't get a Dual Wield upgrade between 90 and 95.
i honestly dont think we're getting anymore dual wield bonuses anyways
Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Sylph.Gobbo said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Also, Camate revealed yesterday that TH can't proc on weaponskills, lol. So when you use SA->WS you actually are wasting a potential for TH proc. Unless you're reading something different from the one I'm thinking, I don't think he said that. He's referring to the whole "You can't see additional effect procs on weaponskills." Since TH procs are considered additional effects, it CAN proc on weaponskills (very common to see with RNG weaponskills and additional effects on arrows) and you will just not know if it went off or not until you proc again on a melee swing. Well, maybe he's confused about how it works, but he's pretty explicit about what they're patching. I doubt he would go into all the "When combining a weapon skill with Sneak Attack/Trick Attack, the rate of increase will be the same as using Sneak Attack/Trick Attack" stuff if that's how it works right now. Maybe offhand hits can upgrade or something at the moment? Also yeah, the TA Flourish is the only new JA we get. The other idea is probably going to be for the 99 patch. His previous post said that it can increase TH but happens at a lower rate and isn't displayed in the chat log. I'll go with your assumption that it can proc on offhand hits as they normally do, but it doesn't show. Would make sense of both posts. Either that, or the Dev team members don't all know what they're talking about. Offline
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I don't know if it's been posted somewhere, but new dagger trials are available :
- 1500 heavy metal plates for Twashtar 95 - 50 geodes for elemental paths daggers (eva kilas etc) - 500 kills with a 400+ damage ws for TP Bonus+100 dagger - nothing yet for "fake empy" paths Base damage is upgraded, but stat boosts are really low (Empy gets 2 DEX, eva kila gets 1 AGI, TP Bonus gets ... nothing) ALL empyreans require the same item for that 95 upgrade, let's hope it's a common drop from VW NMs, like 1-3 every chest. The upgrade to the TP bonus dagger is you can make a second one :3
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Fenrir.Richi said: » The upgrade to the TP bonus dagger is you can make a second one :3 I didn't toss my stp fusetto because I expected this. Now I can just upgrade it then finish the tp bonus fusetto +2 trial I've been sitting on. I wish I had that foresight, I threw away my 15 stp dagger for a +100 tp bonus dagger.
I'm thinking of making another 100 stp dagger anyway though... @_@ I've been playing around some more on the test server. No new tier of Skillchain Bonus, but we do get a new tier of Tactical Parry. Hooray for JTs no one cares about, haha.
We're on track to get a third tier of Critical Attack Bonus before 99. Waltzes are the same on the test server as in the real game, so if they're planning to adjust them in any way the adjustment hasn't happened yet. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » I've been playing around some more on the test server. No new tier of Skillchain Bonus, but we do get a new tier of Tactical Parry. Hooray for JTs no one cares about, haha. We're on track to get a third tier of Critical Attack Bonus before 99. Waltzes are the same on the test server as in the real game, so if they're planning to adjust them in any way the adjustment hasn't happened yet. Well, they are adjusting parry at some point, so maybe it'll be useful. I hadn't seen any real testing on Tactical Parry in general, so tonight I worked out the tier structure. It looks like we're on track to get a fourth level by 99, giving us about 1 hit worth of TP per Parry. Good deal, I think.
It's no Counter, but at least it's a defensive ability with *some* offensive implications. I'd take a Parrystance :(
I've heard if you use elicit 3P macros and hax, you can change to Ninja and have what you're asking for!
Lakshmi.Byrth said: » I've heard if you use elicit 3P macros and hax, you can change to Ninja and have what you're asking for! Meh. Doesn't that ability last like 60 seconds with a 5 minute recast or something? I remember reading people complaining about it, but it's not DNC so I didn't pay attention. 1 minute duration, 5 minute recast... but it is useful, unlike Ternary Flourish.
maybe ternary flourish will have additional effect: Job Change
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