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 Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:25:44
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Kalima said:
There is actually a small part of me that is happy to get the answers that we did get...at least I wont be wishfully hoping every update that split waltz timers may be coming just to be disappointed again and again....and again ; ;

However, now this dev team really needs to focus on one thing, not just for DNC but for every job: stop recycling JAs and give us something unique. More than anything this is what is really pissing people off because X job is getting something that Y job had.

And to those who are mad that other jobs got what we have guess what? EVERY JA that DNC has ever had came from another job in some form. The only difference is how they implemented them all.

As far as those who say they are leaving the job because DNC has lost some of its usefulness: I cant convince you otherwise because in part i agree with you, but at the same time I play the job because I like it. And for me that should be the only reason why anyone plays any job....

Oh well /rant
i see what you mean, i love my dnc to death, but its kinda just sitting there with it's gear in storage for the most part because at this point in the game, dnc doesnt really bring enough to the table to make it a viable slot in the party, my old ls leader on asura said i've changed because i used to be a gigantic dnc nut (i pretty much brought dnc to 90% of the events i went to), but now i hardly ever touch it, while i play whm or what have you.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 15:27:04
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I just noticed that BLU got a response today too.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/6218-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%96%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4%EF%BC%9A%E9%9D%92%E9%AD%94%E9%81%93%E5%A3%AB?p=169680&viewfull=1#post169680

I'm jealous, because it's full of good news.

*HNM spells will be added, with an ability that will allow them to be used. You'll have to use the Job Ability to have access to these spells.
*White Wind will be added in the next update.
*BLU healing spells being dependant on healing magic skill from a support job is intentional and won't be changed.
*Job traits such as fast cast and double attack will be able to increased by setting more spells in the future of levels. ADDITIONALLY, Double Attack ----> Triple Attack, Gilfinder ---->Treasure Hunter (wut?)
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 15:27:17
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Sylph.Kiaru said:
You could land debuffs with gimp skill on low level/weak mobs easily since like WOTG, dependings on mobs stats and stuff also I guess.
Sometimes I wonder if you got your lvl 90 jobs in a cracker jack box.
Your answers are just....priceless =(
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:30:22
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
and its still taking up a good portion of my inventory, but still works nicely, i still got that jp button handy

macc gear to support enfeebles that are still subject to resist all while booting -magic gear out the door due to 80 inventory cap ahoy

and enlighten me as to how dancer doesn't get their faced mauled on hahava/celaeno/voidwrought/etc, because even with perfect -physical/-magic sets on samurai, those things as well as even the t3 can be pretty damn scary currently at level ninety
thats what storage and mules are for, for ***that requires a full on resist set i would not even consider bringing my solo macc set, kinda common sense there.

as for vwnm i made a bet with blacklion that when we get the opportunity I'm going to tank voidwrought on dnc and if i can do it successfully he'll toss me a couple mil, I'll get back to you on that. t4 and down there is a handful of NMs that dnc can tank.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:31:21
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
I just noticed that BLU got a response today too.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/6218-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%96%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4%EF%BC%9A%E9%9D%92%E9%AD%94%E9%81%93%E5%A3%AB?p=169680&viewfull=1#post169680

I'm jealous, because it's full of good news.

*HNM spells will be added, with an ability that will allow them to be used. You'll have to use the Job Ability to have access to these spells.
*White Wind will be added in the next update.
*BLU healing spells being dependant on healing magic skill from a support job is intentional and won't be changed.
*Job traits such as fast cast and double attack will be able to increased by setting more spells in the future of levels. ADDITIONALLY, Double Attack ----> Triple Attack, Gilfinder ---->Treasure Hunter (wut?)
im so jelly right now
 
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-08-15 15:32:43
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What? At level 30 in like 2008 I noticed my friend could land paralyze and slow on EM worms and was like "whoa how?" as blue/whm
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2011-08-15 15:33:16
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I guess we are stuck with this crap, but you get a "tatse of timers reduced under 2 hour (yay...?" i personaly do not see the point of at LEAST not separating healing waltz but i guess it's "Balance"
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By Pooman 2011-08-15 15:33:58
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
I just noticed that BLU got a response today too.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/6218-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%96%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4%EF%BC%9A%E9%9D%92%E9%AD%94%E9%81%93%E5%A3%AB?p=169680&viewfull=1#post169680

I'm jealous, because it's full of good news.

*HNM spells will be added, with an ability that will allow them to be used. You'll have to use the Job Ability to have access to these spells.
*White Wind will be added in the next update.
*BLU healing spells being dependant on healing magic skill from a support job is intentional and won't be changed.
*Job traits such as fast cast and double attack will be able to increased by setting more spells in the future of levels. ADDITIONALLY, Double Attack ----> Triple Attack, Gilfinder ---->Treasure Hunter (wut?)

Figures. You know the BLUs will find a way to cry about it though. DNCs got nothing but rubbish responses that tell us we won't be getting anything we want.
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2011-08-15 15:34:37
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
I just noticed that BLU got a response today too.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/6218-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%96%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4%EF%BC%9A%E9%9D%92%E9%AD%94%E9%81%93%E5%A3%AB?p=169680&viewfull=1#post169680

I'm jealous, because it's full of good news.

*HNM spells will be added, with an ability that will allow them to be used. You'll have to use the Job Ability to have access to these spells.
*White Wind will be added in the next update.
*BLU healing spells being dependant on healing magic skill from a support job is intentional and won't be changed.
*Job traits such as fast cast and double attack will be able to increased by setting more spells in the future of levels. ADDITIONALLY, Double Attack ----> Triple Attack, Gilfinder ---->Treasure Hunter (wut?)
im so jelly right now

Meh, i think they needed it, adds to the job verstility i rarely play blue but i saw it coming after things like being able to get double attack and counter. it makes sense.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-15 15:35:41
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
thats what storage and mules are for, for ***that requires a full on resist set i would not even consider bringing my solo macc set, kinda common sense there.

i'm unsure as to what this even means, since you can't exactly access your storage and mules while inside abyssea but regardless, trying to correct my words that speak from experience is kind of redundant when you haven't even done the fight(s)

as for blue mage, it's the best job in the game obviously
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 15:36:18
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Cerberus.Mystina said:
I guess we are stuck with this crap, but you get a "tatse of timers reduced under 2 hour (yay...?" i personaly do not see the point of at LEAST not separating healing waltz but i guess it's "Balance"
Just separating healing waltz like they did with presto/step would be awesome D:
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-08-15 15:36:39
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
as for blue mage, it's the best job in the game obviously

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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:36:46
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i personally would be the happiest person right now if they decided to be like "Oh hey guys, we're fixing parry, so those of you with capped parrying, rejoice! you can now tank chuck norris"
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2011-08-15 15:38:16
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Cerberus.Vaness said:
Cerberus.Mystina said:
I guess we are stuck with this crap, but you get a "tatse of timers reduced under 2 hour (yay...?" i personaly do not see the point of at LEAST not separating healing waltz but i guess it's "Balance"
Just separating healing waltz like they did with presto/step would be awesome D:

Sharing presto with step timers was obviously dumb in the beggining, because they realized that defeated the entire reason for even having presto in the 1st place.
 
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-15 15:38:56
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
i personally would be the happiest person right now if they decided to be like "Oh hey guys, we're fixing parry, so those of you with capped parrying, rejoice! you can now tank chuck norris"

samurai was intended to be the original parrying tank anyways





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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 15:40:02
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Cerberus.Mystina said:
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Cerberus.Mystina said:
I guess we are stuck with this crap, but you get a "tatse of timers reduced under 2 hour (yay...?" i personaly do not see the point of at LEAST not separating healing waltz but i guess it's "Balance"
Just separating healing waltz like they did with presto/step would be awesome D:

Sharing presto with step timers was obviously dumb in the beggining, because they realized that defeated the entire reason for even having presto in the 1st place.
I totally agree, that was very retard and kept me from using presto until the changed it.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 15:41:08
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Healing waltz and curing waltz shouldn't share a timer, it's not that like that would be OP
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:41:58
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
i personally would be the happiest person right now if they decided to be like "Oh hey guys, we're fixing parry, so those of you with capped parrying, rejoice! you can now tank chuck norris"

samurai was intended to be the original parrying tank anyways





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lol good point
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2011-08-15 15:42:22
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Healing waltz and curing waltz shouldn't share a timer, it's not that like that would be OP


Oh no, it is perfectly fine to choose between removing a 200 tick poison/bio and left with 300 hp waiting on timers or healing the hp only to lose it again due to the dot that is still on you, waaay to unbalanced. -_-

They don't see that apprently.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-15 15:44:39
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said:
you're speaking from personal experience from watching me or something? what you got lec checking me out or something?

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By Pooman 2011-08-15 15:44:59
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Healing waltz and curing waltz shouldn't share a timer, it's not that like that would be OP

Obviously SE thinks that will break DNC somehow. "Take off paralyze and then immediately cure yourself? Hah, think again." Those two shouldn't have ever shared job abilities.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-15 15:45:53
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
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you're speaking from personal experience from watching me or something? what you got lec checking me out or something?

i said T4 and down, i dont know about t5, you may want to read the REST of the post that you hyperlinked
 
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