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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-07-12 12:35:46
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Hey all, quick question:

Does anyone know if there's an unabridged list somewhere of which Weapon Skills are considered "Magic" (i.e. ones that trigger Amber lights on killshots in Abyssea)?
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-12 12:39:45
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I pretty well use the red weakness list, and of course aeolian edge, Blade Yu, etc.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2011-07-12 12:39:59
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WS tooltip: "Deals -insertelementhere- elemental damage to the target".

Try wikiing Amber Lights?
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-07-12 12:50:05
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Bismarck.Nevill said:
I pretty well use the red weakness list, and of course aeolian edge, Blade Yu, etc.

Yep. Those are all on the list (I think), but there are more.

Bismarck.Faelar said:
WS tooltip: "Deals -insertelementhere- elemental damage to the target".

Try wikiing Amber Lights?

Yeah, I'm just gonna create my own list off the wikia. Was just curious if someone had already created such a list.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-12 12:55:36
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you mean more than this?

Aeolian Edge
Blade: Ei
Blade: Yu
Cyclone
Gust Slash
Vidohunir
Seraph Strike
Flash Nova
Herculean Slash
Infernal Scythe
Raiden Thrust
Leaden Salute
Trueflight
Primal Rend
Red Lotus Blade
Sanguine Blade
Freezebite
Rock Crusher
Tachi: Jinpu
Tachi: Koki
Cataclysm
Garland of Bliss
Wildfire





some WS you would think give amber don't like Blade: To
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-12 12:57:39
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nah that copypasta from wiki, so that's what I'm asking is there more? Which are they? I only have NIN and WHM so I don't really have much info from personal experience.
 
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-07-12 13:02:01
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Gale Axe, hot Shot, Burning Arrow give ruby lights :/
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-07-12 13:06:52
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Aye, that's why I was asking this question. It seems some WS that are described in the in-game text as "deals magic damage" do not actually trigger Amber light. Some examples given so far in this thread include Hot Shot and Blade: To. I also remember reading somewhere that Tachi: Kagero doesn't work, either.

And then, on the flipside, it seems we have WS like Herculean Slash and Sanguine Blade that are NOT described as "deals magic damage" by the in-game text, and yet they reportedly work for Amber kills.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-12 13:12:20
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I don't think Blade: Teki gives amber either but would need to confirm. No idea about Blade: Chi, would be cool to know and have a "final" list
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-12 13:22:16
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why is this a major concern OP? Are the listed/known Amber WSs not strong enough???
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-07-12 13:33:26
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Carbuncle.Tweeek said:
I don't think Blade: Teki gives amber either but would need to confirm. No idea about Blade: Chi, would be cool to know and have a "final" list

Blade chi gives ruby, I was wtf'ing over it when trying to get amber on a water type ephemeral (couldn't use blade yu)
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-07-12 13:48:11
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
why is this a major concern OP? Are the listed/known Amber WSs not strong enough???

It's not a major concern.

It's a minor curiosity.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-12 13:49:07
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Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Carbuncle.Tweeek said:
I don't think Blade: Teki gives amber either but would need to confirm. No idea about Blade: Chi, would be cool to know and have a "final" list

Blade chi gives ruby, I was wtf'ing over it when trying to get amber on a water type ephemeral (couldn't use blade yu)

Yea that stuff is annoying, I usually amber with AE but against Pavla in Kon I use Yu.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-07-12 13:49:17
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Bismarck.Faelar said:
WS tooltip: "Deals -insertelementhere- elemental damage to the target".

Try wikiing Amber Lights?
This^ all you need to know really.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-07-12 13:50:29
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Carbuncle.Tweeek said:
Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Carbuncle.Tweeek said:
I don't think Blade: Teki gives amber either but would need to confirm. No idea about Blade: Chi, would be cool to know and have a "final" list

Blade chi gives ruby, I was wtf'ing over it when trying to get amber on a water type ephemeral (couldn't use blade yu)

Yea that stuff is annoying, I usually amber with AE but against Pavla in Kon I use Yu.
If you wait too much and do it at 1% when the first hit will be the only thing to proc, you're going to get Ruby since NIN and SAM's Ele WSs have physical qualities on the first hit. It's the reason why Jinpu is difficult to test.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-12 13:53:00
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Not sure why you quoted that quote it sounds like you're talking about something completely different. That quote was talking about certain NMs resisting specific elements when going for amber lights thus limiting options for WS available to build amber.. anyway I feel kuni's pain cause it's annoying.



Also are you trying to tell me Blade To will produce amber under certain circumstances? Have you tried using Blade: To with just 1 Katana (not dual wielding) for Amber killshot to prove this? This is the first I've heard of it so I ask.


I don't think it's as simple as you quoted:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bismarck.Faelar said:
WS tooltip: "Deals -insertelementhere- elemental damage to the target".

Try wikiing Amber Lights?
This^ all you need to know really.


which is why we are having a discussion.
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By Fenrir.Tarowyn 2011-07-12 20:47:13
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
I really doubt whoever came up with "jinpu is physical magical hybred, if first hit kills, you get ruby light" because I've killed countless with jinpu <5% and never once saw ruby light But it's nice to have a list of the ws that are magical but refuse to give amber light Blade: To Gale Axe Hot Shot Burning Arrow? Any more?
Would guess all the nin hybrid ws's give ruby (chi, to, teki).

Why is gale axe on the list? It's just plain old physical, lol.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-07-13 01:12:58
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Fenrir.Tarowyn said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
I really doubt whoever came up with "jinpu is physical magical hybred, if first hit kills, you get ruby light" because I've killed countless with jinpu <5% and never once saw ruby light But it's nice to have a list of the ws that are magical but refuse to give amber light Blade: To Gale Axe Hot Shot Burning Arrow? Any more?
Would guess all the nin hybrid ws's give ruby (chi, to, teki).

Why is gale axe on the list? It's just plain old physical, lol.

The animation looks wind like D:
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