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By Aisha 2011-06-17 01:23:42
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ok So usually play on BLU/RDM soloing stuff and use my MDT- set a lot and I have about mdt-40% cause I dont always have shell IV, shell II from rdm sub, but was talking with a friend and he saysMDB does not cap and can go pass the 50% mdt cap,was wondering if this is true or not and if it IS true then why has my saline coat not been nullifying things like it use back at 75 cap, sorry if this has been asked before an if so plz link any pages you can find, ty
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-06-17 01:35:47
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Aegis just broke the cap, but anything else is subject to cap
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-06-17 01:55:31
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Magic Defense Bonus and Magic Damage Taken are not the same thing. MDB does not cap, MDT caps at 50%
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By Aisha 2011-06-17 16:50:47
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would like more verification if possible ;;
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By Carbuncle.Aeonknight 2011-06-17 16:54:18
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Magic Defense Bonus and Magic Damage Taken are not the same thing. MDB does not cap, MDT caps at 50%
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-17 16:54:47
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Wiki is your friend.
 
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-06-17 17:13:23
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With saline's coat and a capped MDT build, it's possible to go far beyond what an aegis can do. Not to mention that BLU gets MDB+10 if you choose to set it (or free +12 with /rdm).
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-06-17 17:16:57
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Bismarck.Helel said:
With saline's coat and a capped MDT build, it's possible to go far beyond what an aegis can do. Not to mention that BLU gets MDB+10 if you choose to set it (or free +12 with /rdm).

Aegis stacks on MDT sets. So true -90%

MDB does not stack and is calculated based on MAB, as josiahfk explained.

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So based on that you'd need 80 MDB and MDT-50% to match aegis. And saline coat fades over time.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-17 17:19:41
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Bismarck.Helel said:
With saline's coat and a capped MDT build, it's possible to go far beyond what an aegis can do. Not to mention that BLU gets MDB+10 if you choose to set it (or free +12 with /rdm).
Except it doesn't work how you seem to think it works. Read the link I posted.

Besides, PLD has no issues cramming MDB into open slots after capping MDT (which only takes 5-6 slots for them).

EDIT: You'd need 400 MDB to match Aegis' additional 40% MDT if you both have capped MDT. BLU can't touch that.

damage*0.1=damage*0.5*1/x
x=(damage*0.5)/(damage*0.1)
x=0.5/0.1=5
Base value of 1.0, so you'd need to increase MDB value by 4.0 ie 400 MDB.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-17 17:21:51
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
MDB is to counter MAB, the ratio starts at 1.00 to 1.00. So if you add MDB you'll slowly rise the denominator 15 MDB = 1.00/1.15 meaning yeah you take less dmg but you can never reach zero dmg taken using that, even with 1000 MDB you'll just take very little dmg.


So say you take a 1000 dmg nuke. 50% MDT would give you 500. Now say you have MDB+50.

500 x (1.00/1.50) = 333.33~ damage would be taken (all assuming no resists and ignoring all other factors for argument sake)

this is how I understand MDB anyway
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By Aisha 2011-06-17 17:28:33
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alright ty guys an everyone who posted, I knew about the wiki info just wasnt sure about mdb capping etc but this clears everything right up ^^ thx again blu forums!
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-07-27 11:22:51
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how much mdb is 100+ resistance to any elemental nuke?, i'm a lil confused
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-27 11:25:49
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
how much mdb is 100+ resistance to any elemental nuke?, i'm a lil confused
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-07-27 11:30:05
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cause im currently standing at 71% mdt from ducal guard and gear on my bst, i was wondering how much damage i will take with Atma of a Future Fabulous (MDB+50) +71% mdt , for example a 1000 dmg nuke
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-27 11:32:14
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1000x.29=290

290(1/1.5) = 193 roughly.
 
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-07-27 11:39:24
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thanks a lot
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