Illegal To Kiss In Public In America
Illegal to kiss in public in america
wow. if a cop told me i wasn't allowed to talk i'd probably start screaming too.
[+]
Is there a followup to this? I'm interested in finding out what happened after.
according to reports, 5 people were arrested for violating a ban on demonstrations inside the memorial.
I'm sorry but a memorial in this country, the only way to honor it is to honor the freedoms like dancing and demonstrations, there's something wrong with the decisions made on the cases involved in this.
I'm sorry but a memorial in this country, the only way to honor it is to honor the freedoms like dancing and demonstrations, there's something wrong with the decisions made on the cases involved in this.
[+]
Lakshmi.Jaguarx said:
Is there a followup to this? I'm interested in finding out what happened after.
I hate this country
[+]
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I hate this country
[+]
Good, nobody wants to see that ***... they can get a room.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
[+]
Fenrir.Enternius said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I hate this country
Q4T. Too many retards running around this world.
I love how they can just say "The memorial is closed". Never knew the police had the authority to close a memorial.
Asura.Kowen said:
Good, nobody wants to see that ***... they can get a room.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
i know a guy who likes to have sex in public places. when he finally gets a girl to go into the ball pit at mcdonalds i'm convinced he's going to jail.
Asura.Kowen said:
Good, nobody wants to see that ***... they can get a room.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
[+]
Found a different version:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I hate this country
Feel free to move anywhere you want, what's holding you up?
[+]
I smell ***. The 'Code Pink' shirt is a dead giveaway.
[+]
Found an article to go with this.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284
Assuming this is right, then f those people arrested. They were breaking rules, simple as that. It could be just me, but I agree that a place like the Jefferson Memorial is no place for stupid crap like dancing and couples having to kiss and such in public.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284
Quote:
Washington - Five people were arrested for dancing at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial, in defiance of a ban on demonstrations at the site.
The flash mob was organized through Twitter and Facebook as a protest against a recent court decision upholding a 2008 verdict that banned dancing at the memorial.
Andrew Sharp, a protester, told radio station WTOP:
"I think some people thought it was a joke at first, and then they started putting handcuffs on people and were very, very serious about it."
Sharp also said that people were told that no warnings would be given, and arrests would be made on the spot.
The court's decision stems from 2008, when Mary Oberwetter was arrested by police for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial on the eve of the former president's 265th birthday. Oberwetter, then 28, was charged with a misdemeanor count of interfering with agency functions, and was later released.
Oberwetter sued the Park Service in 2009, saying that her arrest for dancing was a violation of her First Amendment rights. In her suit, she asked U.S. District Judge John D. Bates to stop the Park Service from preventing such demonstrations in the future.
In his final decision, Bates took side with the Park Service, writing in his 26-page opinion:
“...the purpose of the Memorial is to publicize Thomas Jefferson's legacy, so that critics and supporters alike may contemplate his place in history. The Park Service prohibits all demonstrations in the interior of the Jefferson Memorial, in order to maintain an "an atmosphere of calm, tranquility, and reverence,"'”
The Justice Department, acting on behalf of the Park Service, wrote in court papers:
“The Memorial is, has long been, and is intended to be a place of calm, tranquillity, and reverence—a place where visitors can go to celebrate and honor Jefferson and enjoy and contemplate the Memorial itself without the distraction of public demonstrations and other expressive activities. The Memorial is akin to a temple or a shrine (both in terms of its purpose and its physical characteristics), not a place of public expression.”
A second event is planned for June 4.
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284#ixzz1Nil36ptSp
The flash mob was organized through Twitter and Facebook as a protest against a recent court decision upholding a 2008 verdict that banned dancing at the memorial.
Andrew Sharp, a protester, told radio station WTOP:
"I think some people thought it was a joke at first, and then they started putting handcuffs on people and were very, very serious about it."
Sharp also said that people were told that no warnings would be given, and arrests would be made on the spot.
The court's decision stems from 2008, when Mary Oberwetter was arrested by police for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial on the eve of the former president's 265th birthday. Oberwetter, then 28, was charged with a misdemeanor count of interfering with agency functions, and was later released.
Oberwetter sued the Park Service in 2009, saying that her arrest for dancing was a violation of her First Amendment rights. In her suit, she asked U.S. District Judge John D. Bates to stop the Park Service from preventing such demonstrations in the future.
In his final decision, Bates took side with the Park Service, writing in his 26-page opinion:
“...the purpose of the Memorial is to publicize Thomas Jefferson's legacy, so that critics and supporters alike may contemplate his place in history. The Park Service prohibits all demonstrations in the interior of the Jefferson Memorial, in order to maintain an "an atmosphere of calm, tranquility, and reverence,"'”
The Justice Department, acting on behalf of the Park Service, wrote in court papers:
“The Memorial is, has long been, and is intended to be a place of calm, tranquillity, and reverence—a place where visitors can go to celebrate and honor Jefferson and enjoy and contemplate the Memorial itself without the distraction of public demonstrations and other expressive activities. The Memorial is akin to a temple or a shrine (both in terms of its purpose and its physical characteristics), not a place of public expression.”
A second event is planned for June 4.
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284#ixzz1Nil36ptSp
Assuming this is right, then f those people arrested. They were breaking rules, simple as that. It could be just me, but I agree that a place like the Jefferson Memorial is no place for stupid crap like dancing and couples having to kiss and such in public.
[+]
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Asura.Kowen said:
Good, nobody wants to see that ***... they can get a room.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
PDA is for tacky teenagers who just want everyone to see that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend.
What a misleading title for this thread too lol...
They were doing what they were instructed to do, and those people were looking for trouble... They weren't genuinely doing things on their own accord, they made it obvious that they were protesting and trying to stir up trouble... I see nothing wrong with how they were treated.
If you don't want to be arrested for stupid ***, don't do stupid ***.
If you don't want to be arrested for stupid ***, don't do stupid ***.
[+]
i'd of given more tongue if i was going to go to jail for it. just sayin'
Carbuncle.Valflux said:
If you don't want to be arrested for stupid ***, don't do stupid ***.
[+]
Lakshmi.Jaguarx said:
Found a different version:
[+]
Not all public property can be considered a public forum, it's pretty simple.
I find it disturbing how they turned this into a publicity stunt to make people look bad... They released two versions of the video on purpose so that it wasn't immediately obvious that they were being blatantly defiant... They were all given warnings, some more than one, and asked "do you understand?" They were told exactly what would happen if they didn't listen... Yet to anyone viewing the initial video those guards/policemen look like real douche bags just for doing their job... it's sickening.
However, public parks are generally considered public forum. The police in this instance were park police. The man, at least in the original arrest was complaining about no warning before being arrested, and the articles seems to support that claim.
I had no clue that demonstration was illegal in the Jefferson Memorial. But what I find offensive is that police have the authority to arrest anyone without warning that they deem to be disturbing the reverence of the monument.
Keep in mind, this is different from being asked to leave for disrupting the peace, and then refusing and resisting.
Edit: watched the second video somewhat, they were given a warning. Not much of one, but they were being argumentative.
I had no clue that demonstration was illegal in the Jefferson Memorial. But what I find offensive is that police have the authority to arrest anyone without warning that they deem to be disturbing the reverence of the monument.
Keep in mind, this is different from being asked to leave for disrupting the peace, and then refusing and resisting.
Edit: watched the second video somewhat, they were given a warning. Not much of one, but they were being argumentative.
They were directly asked to stop. If you watch the full 11min video, before the couple kisses, one of the guys looks them straight in the eyes with them 1 foot away and asks them to stop, and they just keep going and kiss... They kissed as a means to provoke the guy in my opinion.
I love how anyone on the youtube page that says the cops were just doing their job is marked as spam...
I love how anyone on the youtube page that says the cops were just doing their job is marked as spam...
Hades.Stefanos said:
Found an article to go with this.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284
Assuming this is right, then f those people arrested. They were breaking rules, simple as that. It could be just me, but I agree that a place like the Jefferson Memorial is no place for stupid crap like dancing and couples having to kiss and such in public.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284
Quote:
Washington - Five people were arrested for dancing at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial, in defiance of a ban on demonstrations at the site.
The flash mob was organized through Twitter and Facebook as a protest against a recent court decision upholding a 2008 verdict that banned dancing at the memorial.
Andrew Sharp, a protester, told radio station WTOP:
"I think some people thought it was a joke at first, and then they started putting handcuffs on people and were very, very serious about it."
Sharp also said that people were told that no warnings would be given, and arrests would be made on the spot.
The court's decision stems from 2008, when Mary Oberwetter was arrested by police for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial on the eve of the former president's 265th birthday. Oberwetter, then 28, was charged with a misdemeanor count of interfering with agency functions, and was later released.
Oberwetter sued the Park Service in 2009, saying that her arrest for dancing was a violation of her First Amendment rights. In her suit, she asked U.S. District Judge John D. Bates to stop the Park Service from preventing such demonstrations in the future.
In his final decision, Bates took side with the Park Service, writing in his 26-page opinion:
“...the purpose of the Memorial is to publicize Thomas Jefferson's legacy, so that critics and supporters alike may contemplate his place in history. The Park Service prohibits all demonstrations in the interior of the Jefferson Memorial, in order to maintain an "an atmosphere of calm, tranquility, and reverence,"'”
The Justice Department, acting on behalf of the Park Service, wrote in court papers:
“The Memorial is, has long been, and is intended to be a place of calm, tranquillity, and reverence—a place where visitors can go to celebrate and honor Jefferson and enjoy and contemplate the Memorial itself without the distraction of public demonstrations and other expressive activities. The Memorial is akin to a temple or a shrine (both in terms of its purpose and its physical characteristics), not a place of public expression.”
A second event is planned for June 4.
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284#ixzz1Nil36ptSp
The flash mob was organized through Twitter and Facebook as a protest against a recent court decision upholding a 2008 verdict that banned dancing at the memorial.
Andrew Sharp, a protester, told radio station WTOP:
"I think some people thought it was a joke at first, and then they started putting handcuffs on people and were very, very serious about it."
Sharp also said that people were told that no warnings would be given, and arrests would be made on the spot.
The court's decision stems from 2008, when Mary Oberwetter was arrested by police for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial on the eve of the former president's 265th birthday. Oberwetter, then 28, was charged with a misdemeanor count of interfering with agency functions, and was later released.
Oberwetter sued the Park Service in 2009, saying that her arrest for dancing was a violation of her First Amendment rights. In her suit, she asked U.S. District Judge John D. Bates to stop the Park Service from preventing such demonstrations in the future.
In his final decision, Bates took side with the Park Service, writing in his 26-page opinion:
“...the purpose of the Memorial is to publicize Thomas Jefferson's legacy, so that critics and supporters alike may contemplate his place in history. The Park Service prohibits all demonstrations in the interior of the Jefferson Memorial, in order to maintain an "an atmosphere of calm, tranquility, and reverence,"'”
The Justice Department, acting on behalf of the Park Service, wrote in court papers:
“The Memorial is, has long been, and is intended to be a place of calm, tranquillity, and reverence—a place where visitors can go to celebrate and honor Jefferson and enjoy and contemplate the Memorial itself without the distraction of public demonstrations and other expressive activities. The Memorial is akin to a temple or a shrine (both in terms of its purpose and its physical characteristics), not a place of public expression.”
A second event is planned for June 4.
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/307284#ixzz1Nil36ptSp
Assuming this is right, then f those people arrested. They were breaking rules, simple as that. It could be just me, but I agree that a place like the Jefferson Memorial is no place for stupid crap like dancing and couples having to kiss and such in public.
Cerberus.Eugene said:
However, public parks are generally considered public forum.
Not necessarily, since the designation of public forum also depends on what use the site in question has been ascribed by the government. In this case, it clearly states something along the lines of a tranquil site for reverence or some ***I'm too lazy to go back and read. Basically, you could have a large public park and have parts of that park that are not considered public forums if the intended use of those sites is not related to public expression or debate.
All FFXI content and images © 2002-2026 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. FINAL
FANTASY is a registered trademark of Square Enix Co., Ltd.