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Ramuh.Urial said: Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Please don't imply I'm an idiot, Jaerik. I place respect in my posts above all and I would appreciate the same from others. He is though lol Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Ramuh.Urial said: Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Please don't imply I'm an idiot, Jaerik. I place respect in my posts above all and I would appreciate the same from others. People are brain *** to think whatever they want and then highly-likely to ignore the opposing argument because "they've figured it out". You're right. The idea of Creationism that the magical man in the sky(lol cause that doesn't sound like prehistoric man trying to explain everything he couldn't) who made the earth and all of its creatures is CLEARLY more logical.
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I don't think he actually wants you to go and jump off a building Mabrook >_> it was simply a stark comparison to highlight the hypocrisy between choosing to believe one and not the other when both have undeniable evidence to support each theory.
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Please direct me to at least one post that implies I care what others think.
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Please direct me to at least one post that implies I care what others think. >well, maybe a little but not much lol. Quote: Please don't imply I'm an idiot, Jaerik. I place respect in my posts above all and I would appreciate the same from others. Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution!
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zahrah said: Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution! /frustrated Things change. People change.
Some changes linger and have lasting subtle effects. deep stuff brah zahrah said: Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution! /frustrated Well... how? If you claim to have faith in creationism then you cannot claim to believe in evolution without denying what you claim to have faith in. If you believe in evolution then you cannot claim to have faith in creationism. They are in complete contradiction with one another. I don't see how you can believe in both.
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Sylph.Maruraba said: Lakshmi.Mabrook said: But just to get technicalities out the way, I completely believe in evolution but I do not believe that one species can come from another. As for Inuyushi, here's a non-google answer, though given your lack of interest I'm not sure why I'm bothering: The origin of sexual reproduction and separate genders is not fully understood. There are several hypotheses, but no, we don't know everything. That doesn't negate evolutionary theory, though. In fact, the diversity of reproduction on this planet (asexual, hermaphroditic organisms, and different genders) supports the idea that life mutated, changed, and differentiated, branching out. Conversely, why would God create separate genders and sexual reproduction and then regulate the hell out of it with a ton of commandments about it specifically? Why not have everything reproduce asexually and have done with it? As for it being a "theory," I'll let National Academy of Sciences sum it up: NAS said: The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics). One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed. Look, evolution is easy to prove. Look at the fossil record. There are a lot of species that used to exist but do not exist now. A lot of species that exist now did not exist in the past. The logical conclusion is that newer forms of life came from previous ones. That's all evolution is, and there isn't a debate, because not a scrap of evidence has been found that proves otherwise. Quote: No one knows how old the Earth is. 4.2 billion. We know this. Look it up. Thanks for the answer. Basically no one knows completely how it happened. Evolution takes faith, like everything else is this world, to believe. Btw, did I ever state I don't believe in Evolution? I just said I'm a creationist is all. Sure I believe we were created by a celestial being. Do I not believe he designed us with the ability to adapt? No. Jaerik brought up a good point that I find sad. Creationists cutting funding for evolution is wrong. You guys should be able to look further into these things. I find it interesting, and sometimes comical, the things that come from the fruits of evolutionists. Summary: Thanks for the answer. Cutting evolution research funding to say "I'm right, you're wrong" is dumb. I believe the evolution process to be true. I do not believe we evolved from a puddle of ooze. Ramuh.Sagittario said: zahrah said: Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution! /frustrated Well... how? If you have claim to have faith in creationism then you cannot claim to believe in evolution without denying what you claim to have faith in. If you believe in evolution then you cannot claim to have faith in creationism. They are in complete contradiction with one another. I don't see how you can believe in both. It's entirely possible to interpret the Bible as a metaphor of creation, and still believe in the Big Bang and the gradual evolution of the universe and life as we know it.
That's actually the Catholic Church's official position on the matter. A complete denial of the overwhelming scientific proof of evolution is a uniquely American protestant (and Islamic fundmentalist) phenomenon. The problem doesn't arise from people's beliefs. You are complete entitled to believe the world was created on the back of a turtle supported by white elephants if you want (as hundreds of millions of people in the world do). It's no sweat off my back. The problem arises when people aren't content with their own beliefs, and try to hijack the political and educational systems to stop teaching or funding evolution -- a belief of which will be vitally important for our country to ever compete in the medical, geological, astrophysical, biological, and scientific fields of the future.
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Ramuh.Urial said: bible Like I've said multiple times, I don't blame or resent people for hating religion; it is completely understandable from the Christian perspective. Any book written by a man that is supposed to be the word of any God is no better. The Torah and the Quran are no different.  Interesting episode. Farnsworth finds out time is relative, aka thousands of years or aeons mean different things from a different perspective, making creation and evolution both possibly true. As far as fact or theory- am I awake or will I wake up in a min? what I think is fact right now might not be a few moments from now. All of science is a theory. As to OP's question, Evolution makes more sense, when you consider carbon dating the tree of life. But, it seems too coincidental that atoms work in such a way as to allow evolution to occur. Ramuh.Urial said: zahrah said: Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution! /frustrated You don't need to believe in the bible by having faith. I tell everyone that I personally am not a man of God. I am however a man of faith. I don't need to have faith in a God or an ancient tome. My faith comes in the form of people. Not all people mind you, but the ones who have proven that my trust will not go unmerited. In short, I personally believe you can have faith and eat your evolution cake, too. Besides, there are so many gray areas; it's hard to confine religion to a few choice groups, nowadays. Ramuh.Sagittario said: zahrah said: Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution! /frustrated Well... how? If you claim to have faith in creationism then you cannot claim to believe in evolution without denying what you claim to have faith in. If you believe in evolution then you cannot claim to have faith in creationism. They are in complete contradiction with one another. I don't see how you can believe in both. Since you guys are such Bible toting people, please tell me where it is stated in the Bible that we can't believe in a form of adaption (or evolution). We just don't believe in the fact that we were created via Evolution. Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Ramuh.Urial said: the Quran If you can not, then try not express your broken-understanding as a logical argument. I go to sleep and this thread goes from Pokemon to super cereal. How did you guys let this happen. :{
Draylo, I bet you're responsible. D:<
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Ramuh.Urial said: Actually to have faith would deny evolution going by the bible....just sayin'. Ramuh.Sagittario said: Well... how? If you claim to have faith in creationism then you cannot claim to believe in evolution without denying what you claim to have faith in. If you believe in evolution then you cannot claim to have faith in creationism. They are in complete contradiction with one another. I don't see how you can believe in both. I don't believe in creationism at all actually, but I still would like to think that there is a place we go when we die that is not just six feet underground. Yes, I understand that may be laughable and childish. Siren.Inuyushi said: Ramuh.Sagittario said: zahrah said: Why is it that people continually think that it's a never ending battle between creationism and evolution? People can have faith without denying evolution! /frustrated Well... how? If you claim to have faith in creationism then you cannot claim to believe in evolution without denying what you claim to have faith in. If you believe in evolution then you cannot claim to have faith in creationism. They are in complete contradiction with one another. I don't see how you can believe in both. Since you guys are such Bible toting people, please tell me where it is stated in the Bible that we can't believe in a form of adaption (or evolution). We just don't believe in the fact that we were created via Evolution. |
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