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 Asura.Chuuuuu
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-05-26 01:49:42
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i saw better ones but i cant find the pic D:
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-05-26 01:51:20
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
I think glaceon is the coolest.

Personally like Espeon myself :3
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-05-26 01:51:58
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Asura.Chuuuuu said:
i saw better ones but i cant find the pic D:
What type was the first one? I saw fighting, poison, flying, ghost, dragon, rock, bug, and steel. Can't figure out what that first one is...
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-05-26 01:52:20
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oh nvm here they are lol
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-05-26 01:52:51
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
Asura.Chuuuuu said:
i saw better ones but i cant find the pic D:
What type was the first one? I saw fighting, poison, flying, ghost, dragon, rock, bug, and steel. Can't figure out what that first one is...
first one is a normal type
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-05-26 01:53:02
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
Asura.Chuuuuu said:
i saw better ones but i cant find the pic D:
What type was the first one? I saw fighting, poison, flying, ghost, dragon, rock, bug, and steel. Can't figure out what that first one is...
Nvm, I think the first one is fighting. and the one I thought was fighting must be ground.
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-05-26 01:53:18
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Asura.Chuuuuu said:
Asura.Sandolphon said:
Asura.Chuuuuu said:
i saw better ones but i cant find the pic D:
What type was the first one? I saw fighting, poison, flying, ghost, dragon, rock, bug, and steel. Can't figure out what that first one is...
first one is a normal type
I meant the one after Eevee.
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-05-26 01:54:23
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i dunno they are usually pretty self explanatory
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-05-26 02:49:57
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I can attest that Evolution does in fact exist, for I am now a Jolteon.
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By Bismarck.Tsuchinoko 2011-05-26 02:58:03
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Asura.Chuuuuu said:


looks real to me
The ironic thing about them is that they look feminine but majority are male.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-26 02:59:43
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I don't believe in evolution.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-05-26 03:00:09
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Bismarck.Tsuchinoko said:
Asura.Chuuuuu said:


looks real to me
The ironic thing about them is that they look feminine but majority are male.

Always thought that too @@;
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By Artemicion 2011-05-26 03:00:16
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't believe in evolution.

Enlighten us Flion, what do you believe in? :3
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-05-26 03:00:48
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't believe in evolution.

EXPLAIN HOW I WENT FROM AN EEVEE TO A JOLTEON. I DARE YOU.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-26 03:00:55
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Artemicion said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't believe in evolution.

Enlighten us Flion, what do you believe in? :3

Cthulhu :)
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-05-26 03:17:26
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When it comes to evolution I have no quams in admitting my views are very dogmatic. I think the fact that evolution goes on in front of our eyes coupled with actual scientific evidence from fossils, remains and bacterial behaviour to name a few, is a solid and logical base for an argument. What really boils me though is when a scientologist comes along and says no there is no such thing as evolution, god just planted fossils in the ground for a big game of troll treasure hunt.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-26 03:25:54
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
When it comes to evolution I have no quams in admitting my views are very dogmatic. I think the fact that evolution goes on in front of our eyes coupled with actual scientific evidence from fossils, remains and bacterial behaviour to name a few, is a solid and logical base for an argument. What really boils me though is when a scientologist comes along and says no there is no such thing as evolution, god just planted fossils in the ground for a big game of troll treasure hunt.
I'll just leave this here.. <.<
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-05-26 03:31:34
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Asura.Chuuuuu said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I think glaceon is the coolest.
im a sucker for electric types
Jolteon was my absolute favorite before generation 4. :3
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-05-26 03:42:29
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
Asura.Chuuuuu said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I think glaceon is the coolest.
im a sucker for electric types
Jolteon was my absolute favorite before generation 4. :3

I'm torn between Umbreon, Jolteon and Leafeon :x
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-05-26 08:55:58
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Asura.Sandolphon said:
My girlfriend bought me the newest Dawkins book as a birthday gift and I'm about 140 pages in so far and its very engaging. The argument for evolution seems as solid as ever and I was wondering what FFXI players think on the subject.





Evolution happened, and continues to happen. The process is laboriously slow (naturally), but it's happening every single day. It's difficult to appreciate in complex organisms like humans, because of the number of body systems we've developed over literally millions of years.

However, if one looks at the smallest of organisms, it becomes much easier to appreciate.

Antibiotic drug resistance in bacteria

Evolution happens much faster among single-cell organisms, due to their sheer numbers, rapid reproduction, and structural simplicity.
Bacteria don't just magically become resistant to drugs that previously destroyed them. God didn't reach down from above one day and imbue bacteria with special powers because they say their prayers before bedtime.
No, somewhere along the line during the past 20 years, a certain individual bacterium developed a mutation that allowed it some defense against certain drugs, and via natural selection, that bacterium was allowed to proliferate and spread its new gene code into all of its future progeny.

Evolution.

Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
This is just my opinion, but if you think the Earth is only a few thousand years old, you're intelligence-impaired. Similar if you disbelieve in evolution..


Agreed.
I've often wondered about this: why do people cling so vehemently to "creationism"?
I think it's the same reason people like to curl up under a blanket, and the same reason why people get sleepy while riding on a passenger train or jet. It feels safe and comfortable.
There's also the possibility that (due to lolreligious practices) creationism gets "first dibs" on childhood minds. The vast majority of "creationists" were first exposed to the idea at an innocent age, when the brain is most impressionable, ripe, and gullible. Children are deluded into believing in Jesus Christ at roughly the same age when they're "taught" to believe in elves living at the North Pole who magically craft toys that somehow look exactly like the ones @ Toys "R" Us or Wal-Mart (including the packaging). It takes a much more developed brain to process and understand the Evolution of species. One has to comprehend DNA/RNA, mitosis, gene mutation, reproduction, survival of the fittest, and host of other fairly complicated processes. The average human brain just simply isn't mature enough to be able to rationalize and comprehend these concepts until roughly age 11 or 12. By that time, a lot of those pre-adolescent brains have already been brainwashed by 5 to 10 years worth of "creationist" fairy tales.

If anyone reading this is disagreeing, consider this hypothetical situation. No one is born a Christian (or any other "faith"). If a child is never exposed to any religious dogma throughout the first 12-ish years of his/her life (having found out sometime around age 7 that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are fictional characters), and s/he was then told that the Earth and all its creatures were whimsically created in 7 days by a supernatural entity ... do you *really* think s/he would buy into that??

Lol, no.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-05-26 09:13:45
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Elana said:
stuff
Didn't you see this thread was about pokemon?

Edit: repaired fail post
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By Lakshmi.Bshizzle 2011-05-26 09:22:09
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This shouldn't really be a debate. Evolution is not proven, but there is no reason to not be on board with the scientific evidence.
Creation is religious *** that has no scientific ground to stand on.
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By Lakshmi.Helixx 2011-05-26 09:34:37
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Magnets! How do they work!!!
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By Kujata.Daus 2011-05-26 09:39:26
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Its all genetics. Overtime we've gotten chihuahuas from wolves..thats with human interference ofcourse but it still shows you the extremes that genetics can take. You can do anything with the right gene pool.

Evolution takes much longer but ofcourse it happens. Those that survive pass on their traits/genetic mutations to offspring, if the mutations are harmless enough (such as hair color or beak length or shorter legs) and the offspring survive, then those mutations and genes get passed down to the next generation. It depends on the environment, predators and prey.

I guess the real problem people tend to have is human evolution. Did we come from monkeys? probably not but nobody was there to witness it anyway....we are though very similar genetically to other creatures. Its possible we share a similar ancestor but were isolated and took a different evolutionary path but nobody likes to think that humans were an animal-ish ever..so Ill go with my theory of the Stargate brought us here.

however survival of the fittest generally still applies to humans. What is it that makes people look sexy to others? attractiveness all comes down to instinctive urges to pass on your genes. People with mental retardation or horrendous defects or those who act foolishly are more likely to get kicked out of the gene pool then people with traits that deemed humanly acceptable. Therefor right now our species has evolved to like a certain body build and certain amount of smarts for our survival. If there was a higher being out there, our species could easily be manipulated like everything else.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-05-26 09:54:30
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Asura.Chuuuuu said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I think glaceon is the coolest.
im a sucker for electric types

Yay for electric types
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-05-26 10:43:19
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Cerberus.Brurion said:
Yes, Evolution is a fact.
While I believe in evolution, it's called a theory for a reason. It's not in any way shape or form a fact.
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2011-05-26 10:45:26
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(little late but)
Sandolphon:
it goes
top: Normal, Fighting, poison, ground, flying
bottom: dragon, bug, rock, ghost, steel

(i recognized most of the kanji and words by the kanji)
 
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By Odin.Liela 2011-05-26 10:57:53
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I was raised as a creationist and believed in it for many years. When my high school forced my parents to allow my sister and I to take a basic biology class, we learned new things. Like evolution.

Now, I've never read the book and I'm not going to pretend to know everything about the theory, because I simply don't. But here's how my old biology teacher explained it to me: Suppose a million years ago, you had two giraffes. Suppose one of the giraffes had a shorter neck, and one had a mutation-- a longer neck. Since the food that giraffes eat is higher off the ground, the longer-necked giraffe is the one who will survive longest-- or if the food giraffes ate back then was low to the ground, but scarce, same thing. The short-necked giraffe won't be able to get as much food and will therefore be weaker. Since the long-neck giraffe survived longer, he impregnated more female giraffes than the short-necked giraffe. Since the long-neck giraffe's offspring were more likely to also be long-necked, and since they in turn survived longer than their short-necked peers, they spread more long-necked genes. Eventually, only the long-necked giraffes were left. This is called Survival of the Fittest, and over thousands of years, it's called evolution.

That makes sense to me. It made much more sense than what I was originally taught, and it has much more supporting evidence than what I was originally taught. I believe the earth is old, and that evolution happened and is still happening. (But I probably will still never read the book. <.< >.>)
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