Few Suggestions For PUP

People still kite Kirin?

What is this, 2007?

I lol'd. I've been pup75 since the job came out, in fact it was my 1st 75 and I consider it my main. However, pup barely has a place in a regular xp party let alone a merit party lol. Also c'mon pups... you were given the ability to solo for a reason, the "lolpups" out there are the ones who lv through xp parties and have really no clue about the intricatcies of the job or what they're truly capable of. The only way you can really learn how to play a pup is to challenge yourself and solo atleast 80% of your levels.

Why should a PUP party anyway?

They are like BST version 2.

They are solo masters. Hell, DRG, SMN, and BST are all solo masters.

If you can't solo on any of the 4 pet jobs, you need to quit that job now, and go level a mage job. That way, you can be at least useful in party situations....

Last time I've done sky was about late '07. They were lulzworthy though, so yeah, they kited him. (Edit: Still kite him, at that)

Couldnt tell you jack about sky now...not interested in that ***, tbh. I'll be over in salvage though..

You go have fun soloing, I'll be over in the party getting twice as much XP as you in the same time.

Edit: I've also never met anybody whose "first" job was pup75, that had any skill whatsoever. I'd say you're either bluffing or you're just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

Once again, I lol'd.

While you party all the time, those of us who solo will be getting all the BSs your parties will be getting, except, we get them all, you only get 1/6th of them...

Although there's no doubt that a well-equipped WAR will win-out against a PUP with the most optimized gear SE has given the job thus-far....your two sentences contradict each other. WAR winning has nothing to do with the player...if it did, it would be a toss-up as far as the jobs are concerned, and the better player would win.

Sorry, ment to seperate those two into different points, thanks for pointing that out for me.

Also comparing war and pup is like comparing apples and oranges... war is a DD job and pup is a solo job >.>

If I was farming seals, then yeah, I would solo. But im not, I'd be there to merit and get merits quicker. Its give and take.

Thats not entirely true. PUPs can be moderate to good DDs. Much better than SMN can.

Maybe BST = PUP somewhat, since most jug pet's TP moves don't do ***for damage?

I know of a BST who comes to events as BST....even though I think he has another job at 75, people want him to come as BST. So, I don't see that it would be out of the question for PUPs to do endgame, but if they have another job (unless its SMN, but even then, my SMN has seen a few events lately) then they usually do that other job.

Anyway, nuff rambling for me, see ya all in the morning, going to make a fresh start towards my 1000th post.....tomorrow ><

Just for the record, I've heard of the BLM frame out-nuking actual BLM's AMII with all the right attachments. Guess the only way to prove anything is to run a parse on a PUP next time i have one in a meripo (if ever) and write down his gear and more importantly, his attachments. If I wasnt deploying so soon i'd be determined to get PUP to 75 and do the tests with my own gear/attachments and provide solid numbers for you guys, but alas i cannot. So until then i consider myself removed from thsi discussion as (unlike everyone else posting here) i plan to provde numbers, not "X job WILL outparse X job in X circumstances"

Edit: Just to add, please don't think that i believe a PUP can outparse a SAM or WAR from what i've written, because (as previously stated) i hold no evidence to support that fact, you wouldnt think it would be necessary to add this to the post, but people are stupid and like to assume.

Automaton name is Sakura.

Theres some numbers for you from a 5/5 Automaton Melee merited pup against Kirin in a kited situation. Shot at 2007-07-07.

Note: these are not my parses, just old parses I have found.

Nice, btw, im not a PUP guru but why the melee frame? Wouldnt the Rng frame be better?

Edit: It should also be noted that since (im assuming) the PUP isnt engaged this is actually a good amount less than a PUP could parse, as they would have their attacks and WS's added to it

The one reason the automaton could compare was because pets follow moving mobs right at the same spot, so they're always within melee range.

That being said, yes, PUP can attack kited mobs pretty easily. But so can RNG, BLM, SCH, SMN, BST, COR, and THF.

Assuming now.
By looking at the parse, Totem was a RNG. And its obvious that the other with 10%+ is Diabolos.

The blms did about 2/3's of what the automaton did. Jayeon also looks to be a ranger, doing about 3/4s what the auto did. As for everybody else, they didnt even come close.

This was before armour piercer.

Was about to say... whos to say none of those job were present...?

Gotcha

All those charts are is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.

Lol, then learn how to read?

I can read numbers.
But what they really mean baffles me.
I know nothing about 'parsing' (or care for that matter) so to me it looks like one gigantic algorithm of nothingness.

He can spell, though.

Missed the implied sarcasim there a bit wooo?

Whoosh...

Lol, its ok, just look at the first column and compare the Auto's dmg to the others, thats all you really need to see, the others are crit rate, ws dmg, etc for each individual if you read the column its actually pretty easy to understand

/cry... my skyls kites Kirin.... think its more out of wipe concerns though, cause most the people in our Ls are pretty decent players, then again i havent been playing endgame for all that long.

F U buddy ; ;