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Apademak Serious Strat Please
Valefor.Pewpeww
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By Valefor.Pewpeww 2011-03-28 17:37:45
Ok, so my linkshell was doing this today and we keep having to use a brew to kill 2 of them instead of straight tanking it, we have a stun order of 4 people that are stunning all spells, we tank it from behind just like strats ive seen say so breath doesn't hit you.
Plague swipe keeps taking all shadows and hitting for a ton of dmg, that part isn't what wipes us, that part is np, we just put shadows back up and cure.
But he builds resistance to stun after a while and then we can't stun spells anymore, thus he levels up.
What are we doing wrong?
Gilgamesh.Crolion
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By Gilgamesh.Crolion 2011-03-28 17:42:05
honest opinion *** str8 tanking my crew was doing 4 pops a brew dont know how u guys only managing 2.
str8 tanking i dont think anyone has figured it out yet
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-03-28 17:45:06
Not killing it fast enough to outpace the stun resistance. This is one of the if not the shittiest mobs left in the game to do without a brew.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-03-28 17:49:18
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-28 17:49:48
lol he's the OP of that thread
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Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-03-28 17:50:39
wow really?.. then why another one?
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Valefor.Pewpeww
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By Valefor.Pewpeww 2011-03-28 17:52:08
because this mob has been sucking since we started it
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By Sylph.Skinner 2011-03-28 17:52:12
It's easy to just kill it without a brew. We did it with ease. The key is to simply stun every single spell he casts. If he can't get a spell off, he can't level up, he can't fulmination. That's going off memory but i'm pretty sure i'm correct.
We had 12 people but i can see that fight easily done with 6 (or less) people that don't suck and are on the correct jobs.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-03-28 17:53:25
Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-03-28 17:53:36
well i mean you could have just bumped that thread.
i don't have any personal experience, but it looked like people were pretty helpful in that thread. good luck!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-28 17:53:49
Sylph.Skinner said: If he can't get a spell off, he can't level up, he can't fulmination. Quote: But he builds resistance to stun after a while and then we can't stun spells anymore, thus he levels up.
Not anything I've ever had an issue w/, but seems some people either skipped or didn't want to respond to that.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-03-28 17:55:54
Also I'm somewhat sure he can use fulmination before he levels up at all. At least, I noticed that it had used it even when all spells were stunned when I did it the one or two times that I had.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-28 17:56:46
Valefor.Prothescar said: Also I'm somewhat sure he can use fulmination before he levels up at all. At least, I noticed that it had used it even when all spells were stunned when I did it the one or two times that I had. Did he kill anyone?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-28 17:57:46
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-03-28 18:00:22
We popped it 3 times in a row and killed without brew and no deaths with nin x2, whm, thf, rdm, blu and blm. Rdm was there to stun. Blm was backup. Just need to kill fast. I guess both nins having Blade: Hi (1 Kannagi and 1 WoE katana) and thf having Twashtar helped with kill speed.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-03-28 18:00:51
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Valefor.Prothescar said: Also I'm somewhat sure he can use fulmination before he levels up at all. At least, I noticed that it had used it even when all spells were stunned when I did it the one or two times that I had. Did he kill anyone?
Don't think so, but it's possible.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-03-28 18:01:26
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By Sylph.Skinner 2011-03-28 18:01:47
Valefor.Pewpeww said:
But he builds resistance to stun after a while and then we can't stun spells anymore, thus he levels up.
Sorry, i missed it. It honestly shouldn't be alive long enough for this to be an issue. iirc we attacked it from behind as it would just swing its tail and not turn. A dirty THFs paradise! It dropped fairly quickly.
As for using Fulmination before he levels up.. I never saw it. Every single spell he cast was stunned when we did it. Maybe after a spell goes off he can use Fulmination rather than leveling up instantly? We didn't wish to risk it and find out! lol.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-03-28 18:02:03
I have not personally fought Apademak, so my opinion is just speculative, but it seems to me the danger is that he self-nukes to heal and level-up, unlocking Fulmination. In that way, you can consider this fight similar to Turul. Turul self-nukes to heal and gain extremely potent spikes. Turul won't single-tier nuke Aero himself, so the basic strategy is to stun all single-tier Thunder nukes that aren't AM (Since he doesn't AM himself.).
So with that in mind, make sure the BLMs stack dark magic skill, thunder accuracy, and make sure they stun only single-tier nukes, and eat the -ga's.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-28 18:04:35
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-03-28 18:04:58
draylo just accidentally the whole....
Leviathan.Pimpchan
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-03-28 18:20:07
Does anyone know if fulmination has an element ?
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By Cerberus.Thejew 2011-03-28 18:21:48
I've tanked him on his side and we stunned it the whole time, its after like 10+ and you're bored when you start messing up and it becomes fun :D
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By Cerberus.Thejew 2011-03-28 18:25:58
:D thanks I S'pose?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-28 18:37:00
I still don't understand how you can only kill 2 with a brew...
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-03-28 18:38:32
Bahamut.Dasva said: I still don't understand how you can only kill 2 with a brew...
edit: Cause i misread that lol
Valefor.Pewpeww
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By Valefor.Pewpeww 2011-03-28 21:51:17
Not my brews, so i dont know, just always seems to wear off after 2 mobs, they kept saying stun was getting them, so idk. Anyway... we were killing pretty fast, fight lasted about 5minutes before stun fully resisted.
Ok, so my linkshell was doing this today and we keep having to use a brew to kill 2 of them instead of straight tanking it, we have a stun order of 4 people that are stunning all spells, we tank it from behind just like strats ive seen say so breath doesn't hit you.
Plague swipe keeps taking all shadows and hitting for a ton of dmg, that part isn't what wipes us, that part is np, we just put shadows back up and cure.
But he builds resistance to stun after a while and then we can't stun spells anymore, thus he levels up.
What are we doing wrong?
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