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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-23 17:31:56
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I'd avoid those forums, and the people who post on said forums like the plague, because they are all complete and utter ***.

For Example; Take someone like Stanflame.

All of them are Stanflame clones.

All of them.

ALL OF THEM!
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2011-03-23 17:33:16
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The official forums?
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-23 17:34:49
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Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
The official forums?

Yup.
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2011-03-23 17:36:06
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Yea it's a cesspool of ignorance.
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By Leviathan.Buer 2011-03-23 17:43:14
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Siren.Catabolic said:
Leviathan.Buer said:
I thankfully leveled DRG as my first job, not even knowing about the Maat fight. So when I got around to leveling RDM, I didn't have to worry about it. I don't think being able to beat Maat on RDM or not makes you a bad player, just you didn't go through all the trouble to do something that really has no bearing on endgame. Most times RDM in endgame just sits there, cures/buffs/refresh and stand there unless they're low on MP, then just vert and continue on. The most fun I had on RDM was kiting and CS stunning, all of what, twice? Slightly disappointing, but new players can handle it just as well as WHM. Would help if I got around to building gear sets for Nuking, though. >.>;

IDK IMO RDM is one of the toughest end game jobs out there if its being done right. Refresh cycle/haste cycle/debuffing/nuking/curing/kiting(if need be). I always try to make life as easy as possible for the main whm in alliance.

Also I've seen a lot of RDM's get up to maat limit break go O-fer and quit. RDM maat fight is the single hardest maat fight in the game. So yea picking it first is taking the hardest road possible. Especially if you're on Elvaan or Galkan. Not to mention a lot of RDM's seem to only really have done the party aspect of RDM up until then(they haven't done much soloing)

Most of the people who talk trash about rdm maat being easy have either done maat on another job already(so they already know the tempo of the fight and what to expect/have the gil/did it at a level higher than 70, or are just plain full of ***tbh trying to epeen to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies.)

Any new RDM who needs advice on the fight feel free to drop a line. GL on it and if you don't have patience level another job to get through Maat!

Well yeah, potentially RDM can be pretty busy in endgame. I personally haven't done much endgame where there wasn't a large amount of RDM over WHM. A lot of times I only had to worry about 3 people cycles, and once we got Composure, it made it ridiculously easy. I've had loads of fun kiting and nuking, especially kiting KV. It is definitely a hard job to excel at, and even I'm still learning. It takes a lot of patience and hard work, moreso than any other job IMO. I actually would encourage new players to try out RDM, since it's a great learning experience. It's challenging, and I'd warn them that it won't be a walk in the park, but never would tell them to go level a specific job over it. Just give them options that they may enjoy.
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-03-23 17:43:43
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Asura.Daleterrence said:
Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
The official forums?

Yup.
At least he's posting somewhere other than here.
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By Kujata.Akeda 2011-03-23 17:43:56
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Yea it's a cesspool of ignorance.

Gaming boards usually are for some reason. Maybe it's cause you get all these dumbass tweenagers trying to act 'cool'.
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By Siren.Catabolic 2011-03-23 17:48:13
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Leviathan.Buer said:
Siren.Catabolic said:
Leviathan.Buer said:
I thankfully leveled DRG as my first job, not even knowing about the Maat fight. So when I got around to leveling RDM, I didn't have to worry about it. I don't think being able to beat Maat on RDM or not makes you a bad player, just you didn't go through all the trouble to do something that really has no bearing on endgame. Most times RDM in endgame just sits there, cures/buffs/refresh and stand there unless they're low on MP, then just vert and continue on. The most fun I had on RDM was kiting and CS stunning, all of what, twice? Slightly disappointing, but new players can handle it just as well as WHM. Would help if I got around to building gear sets for Nuking, though. >.>;

IDK IMO RDM is one of the toughest end game jobs out there if its being done right. Refresh cycle/haste cycle/debuffing/nuking/curing/kiting(if need be). I always try to make life as easy as possible for the main whm in alliance.

Also I've seen a lot of RDM's get up to maat limit break go O-fer and quit. RDM maat fight is the single hardest maat fight in the game. So yea picking it first is taking the hardest road possible. Especially if you're on Elvaan or Galkan. Not to mention a lot of RDM's seem to only really have done the party aspect of RDM up until then(they haven't done much soloing)

Most of the people who talk trash about rdm maat being easy have either done maat on another job already(so they already know the tempo of the fight and what to expect/have the gil/did it at a level higher than 70, or are just plain full of ***tbh trying to epeen to make themselves feel better about their inadequacies.)

Any new RDM who needs advice on the fight feel free to drop a line. GL on it and if you don't have patience level another job to get through Maat!

Well yeah, potentially RDM can be pretty busy in endgame. I personally haven't done much endgame where there wasn't a large amount of RDM over WHM. A lot of times I only had to worry about 3 people cycles, and once we got Composure, it made it ridiculously easy. I've had loads of fun kiting and nuking, especially kiting KV. It is definitely a hard job to excel at, and even I'm still learning. It takes a lot of patience and hard work, moreso than any other job IMO. I actually would encourage new players to try out RDM, since it's a great learning experience. It's challenging, and I'd warn them that it won't be a walk in the park, but never would tell them to go level a specific job over it. Just give them options that they may enjoy.

Yea agreed. If the person doesn't have the patience though they may wanna put it on hold until they can get through Maat on an easier job. Although the feeling of accomplishment on breaking that limit with RDM is pretty awesome.
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By Aixin 2011-03-23 17:49:12
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Leviathan.Buer said:
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Aixin said:
I can't level MP jobs :/ I have MP management issues. D:!
MP management isn't much of an issue in abyssea.. or i should say ffxi
It's an issue when you play with Galka. Damn those Galka and their MP sponging.

Well I guess I mainly meant pre-aby. Like, if I knew curing was my responsibility I would have 0 mp all the time because I would cure everyone to full every time. Even when I dual boxed and PL'd myself... Seriously I'm horrible at this MP stuff.
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By Caitsith.Jar 2011-03-23 17:49:37
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i just post about how what they posted is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and why <_<





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By Titan.Sonoske 2011-03-23 17:49:58
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Hopefully SE finally shows some commonsense and avoids listening to the ppl on the official forums or FFXI will slowly slip into more of a WoW game. Or just a complete and total wreck.
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By Aixin 2011-03-23 17:55:03
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I guess my main idea behind the post was that if someone wants to level a job; yeah, sure the Maat fight may be difficult for them but imagine how much they'd learn and skill they would acquire doing it themselves. Also, the accomplishment! I just don't think people who have been playing for a bit should run off and tell the new ones: "Hey that's too hard for you do it like this!" This is why new people get into LS's and start the whole:
"Guys, what job should I level?"
"Whatever one you want!"
"But which one is the best?"
"They're all good in their own ways"
"/doesnotcompute"
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By Kujata.Akeda 2011-03-23 18:00:23
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Tell them to go fight Maat as Bard with no sword skills :D
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-23 18:04:02
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Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble..

I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight..

Inb4 "Suck less"

The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win....


Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything..

and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol

yes its an achievement and all that stuff .....

but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it..

just my 2 cents


Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck.

Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off.

But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.
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By Aixin 2011-03-23 18:09:46
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble.. I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight.. Inb4 "Suck less" The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win.... Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything.. and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol yes its an achievement and all that stuff ..... but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it.. just my 2 cents
Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck. Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off. But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.

I like when the appropriate jobs don't have bar-spells. That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
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By Lakshmi.Dobbykk 2011-03-23 18:09:57
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I leveled THF first, but it wasn't because I knew about the Maat fight.

I could do it all solo, and I liked that. All you had to do was be lucky! Oha!
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By Siren.Catabolic 2011-03-23 18:11:27
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble..

I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight..

Inb4 "Suck less"

The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win....


Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything..

and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol

yes its an achievement and all that stuff .....

but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it..

just my 2 cents


Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck.

Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off.

But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.

There is a lot of luck on rdm maat reguardless of skill. Can have all stats capped with the best gear possible/food and still catch a couple resists in a row and be dead in seconds. Had maat back to back asuran fist me one time. 1st Asuran fists bound him after he was stunned from shock spikes. slept him. when he awoke resisted both sleeps and dropped another asuran fists(everything was capped, using hq staves and torque(both borrowed) and cream puff on darksday). RDM maat requires some luck regardless of how good you are.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-23 18:14:16
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Aixin said:
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble.. I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight.. Inb4 "Suck less" The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win.... Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything.. and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol yes its an achievement and all that stuff ..... but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it.. just my 2 cents
Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck. Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off. But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.

I like when the appropriate jobs don't have bar-spells. That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Lol.. when I was lvling rdm.. you needed all spells but a few bar spells. Even still I got them.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-23 18:15:06
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
I got jew'd on the first.
Yo. Minor aside, but none of that here please.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-23 18:16:41
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Siren.Catabolic said:
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble..

I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight..

Inb4 "Suck less"

The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win....


Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything..

and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol

yes its an achievement and all that stuff .....

but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it..

just my 2 cents


Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck.

Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off.

But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.

There is a lot of luck on rdm maat reguardless of skill. Can have all stats capped with the best gear possible/food and still catch a couple resists in a row and be dead in seconds. Had maat back to back asuran fist me one time. 1st Asuran fists bound him after he was stunned from shock spikes. slept him. when he awoke resisted both sleeps and dropped another asuran fists(everything was capped, using hq staves and torque(both borrowed) and cream puff on darksday). RDM maat requires some luck regardless of how good you are.

hmm I was asuran fisted as well. I never had an issue with him. I always tell rdms to use the cs method off the bat don't give him a chance to buff up. They always seem to have better results with it (not right off the bat if you read up I listed my strategy). Unless you are elvaan or galka, which in case there's a little more luck involved. But still can use the base of that method just need to revamp it a little.
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By Bismarck.Dmaul 2011-03-23 18:20:15
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Yeah I think SE finally got fed up with all the idiots that migrated there. They got rid of "General Discussion" and broke it down into different categories.

From the official website:

Forum Category Reorganization
As an overabundance of topics being discussed in the “General Discussion” forum was causing a few issues and often making it difficult for everyone to communicate effectively, we have reorganized the forum categories in order to provide you with a more streamlined experience.

Changes are indicated as follows: new items are in red; items that have been moved or renamed are in blue.
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*No changes
SUPPORT
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UPDATES
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Missions & Quests (Moved from DISCUSSION)
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-23 18:23:12
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Bismarck.Dmaul said:
Yeah I think SE finally got fed up with all the idiots that migrated there. They got rid of "General Discussion" and broke it down into different categories.

From the official website:

Forum Category Reorganization
As an overabundance of topics being discussed in the “General Discussion” forum was causing a few issues and often making it difficult for everyone to communicate effectively, we have reorganized the forum categories in order to provide you with a more streamlined experience.

Changes are indicated as follows: new items are in red; items that have been moved or renamed are in blue.
INFORMATION
*No changes
SUPPORT
*No changes
UPDATES
*No changes
GAMEPLAY (NEW)
Missions & Quests (Moved from DISCUSSION)
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Other (NEW)
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I think it had to do more with the influx of noobs just QQing in general and made it hard for forum mods to regulate, over the tired of xplayer thinks this job should get broken updates.
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By Valefor.Auraflare 2011-03-23 18:26:22
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
Siren.Catabolic said:
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said:
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble..

I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight..

Inb4 "Suck less"

The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win....


Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything..

and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol

yes its an achievement and all that stuff .....

but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it..

just my 2 cents


Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck.

Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off.

But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.

There is a lot of luck on rdm maat reguardless of skill. Can have all stats capped with the best gear possible/food and still catch a couple resists in a row and be dead in seconds. Had maat back to back asuran fist me one time. 1st Asuran fists bound him after he was stunned from shock spikes. slept him. when he awoke resisted both sleeps and dropped another asuran fists(everything was capped, using hq staves and torque(both borrowed) and cream puff on darksday). RDM maat requires some luck regardless of how good you are.

hmm I was asuran fisted as well. I never had an issue with him. I always tell rdms to use the cs method off the bat don't give him a chance to buff up. They always seem to have better results with it (not right off the bat if you read up I listed my strategy). Unless you are elvaan or galka, which in case there's a little more luck involved. But still can use the base of that method just need to revamp it a little.

Oh wow, I remember that fight. Rdm was my first to 75, and was my only 75 for a couple months. Friends of mine kept telling me that 'your going to hate life', etc. Then I beat it on the 2nd try with average gear and mimnimal meds. First try was due to nerves (adrenline rush gone wrong lol), so just took a breather and went over it in my head till I was calm enough for the 2nd go. Was rather excited when I beat it for a bit, then realized it was anti climatic.....
Roughly 3 years later, I tanked Baronial Bat for a friend as rdm/pld. All in all thought that more challanging then Maat.

But I digress, Maat fights are part luck, part skill. Rdm maat needing more skill then most yes, but still relies on luck. But if you have half a brain in your head, it can go alot smoother. Just need to find a strategy that works for your playstyle.
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By Aixin 2011-03-23 23:33:03
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Siren.Flunklesnarkin said:
Just saving them trouble.. I've known a lot of lvl 70 rdm's that quit the game because of the rdm maat fight.. Inb4 "Suck less" The others that weren't able to beat it had to level up an entirely new second job to win.... Rdm maat really is unreasonable at 70.. it takes a huge investment of gil for a new person to get all the meds and everything.. and farming up a rdm testimony is gay without sky access.. i've helped quite a few farm them so i've seen first hand lol yes its an achievement and all that stuff ..... but overall i've seen more people quit over it or just change to an easier job.. than struggle through it.. just my 2 cents
Suck less is an appropriate response... it only took me 2 tries. I got jew'd on the first. *** stnskn then used blinks under 2 hour. So I diagad and dispel'd only to have him do this to me 3times.. by then my *** 2 hours was over.. and his was still on. And I had already converted he was at 20$... 1-2 more nukes would have killed him. Either way RDM maat is not hard.. just most rdms sucked. I can't tell you the amount of LOLDD rdms there were. Btw the ones who did win with rdm dd.. congrats but that is way to much effort and had luck. Ik a guy who had to have some one beat it for him cause he was a full time dd rdm only. Showed up to sky as rdm/war and thought he could dd... lol. His name was mojoe and he sucked hard. I digress other rdms did the whole bind grav trick.. took to long. All you had to do was eat a creampuff before entering. Run up quickly sleep1 on drks day. If that did resist sleep2. Just stack int and enfeeb. make sure you were capped on all stats (including enhancing or at least as close as you could on that one.) Then Sleep2 after buffs were all up. Then rest mp or pop a few mp pots. Easiest ***ever, Ik a guy who failed sam maat like 10 times.. Larrybirdman. I laughed my *** off. But back to op... the new aged casuals are fail. Expecting anything more is just going to piss you off. Some guy got pissed off at me the other day for flashing a mob on whm... said I'll take hate.. with MM, AA, and Rescuer on. And I used -enmity gear in that flash macro btw. They don't realize the importance of spells like that or haste even.
There is a lot of luck on rdm maat reguardless of skill. Can have all stats capped with the best gear possible/food and still catch a couple resists in a row and be dead in seconds. Had maat back to back asuran fist me one time. 1st Asuran fists bound him after he was stunned from shock spikes. slept him. when he awoke resisted both sleeps and dropped another asuran fists(everything was capped, using hq staves and torque(both borrowed) and cream puff on darksday). RDM maat requires some luck regardless of how good you are.
hmm I was asuran fisted as well. I never had an issue with him. I always tell rdms to use the cs method off the bat don't give him a chance to buff up. They always seem to have better results with it (not right off the bat if you read up I listed my strategy). Unless you are elvaan or galka, which in case there's a little more luck involved. But still can use the base of that method just need to revamp it a little.
Oh wow, I remember that fight. Rdm was my first to 75, and was my only 75 for a couple months. Friends of mine kept telling me that 'your going to hate life', etc. Then I beat it on the 2nd try with average gear and mimnimal meds. First try was due to nerves (adrenline rush gone wrong lol), so just took a breather and went over it in my head till I was calm enough for the 2nd go. Was rather excited when I beat it for a bit, then realized it was anti climatic..... Roughly 3 years later, I tanked Baronial Bat for a friend as rdm/pld. All in all thought that more challanging then Maat. But I digress, Maat fights are part luck, part skill. Rdm maat needing more skill then most yes, but still relies on luck. But if you have half a brain in your head, it can go alot smoother. Just need to find a strategy that works for your playstyle.



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By Unicorn.Moldtech 2011-03-24 00:13:16
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RDM was my first to 75 job as well. Everyone kept saying how rough the Maat fight would be and I was intimidated. I got my testy at 66 and couldn't handle the prssure for long, I had to go see how it'd be, got my *** kicked. Tried again at 68 thinking a couple of levels would be gamebreaking, they weren't. Tried again after first hitting 70 thinking the ***was on now, it wasn't. Capped all my magic skills and practiced on Ruby Quad and stomped Maat's ***. So 1/4 for me but mostly because I was arrogant and cocky.

In retrospect though, I think it's a 50/50 fight on if you can get a sleep spell off before he casts blink but staying calm is 100% of the fight. I had a RDM friend who couldn't beat Maat for nothing, the LS kept telling him strategy theories and what he might want to try to do but he just wasn't grasping what we were saying. So I took this feller into brenner so he could practice on me. The gear swap penatly thing was a pain in the *** but he was able to get the concept after that and went 1/1 on Maat after our little training session.

I remember to this day him casting sleep on me and me doing /em is asleep. and just standing there since I was resisiting his sleeps lol. I'd give a few seconds (usually enough time for him to get a nuke off) and do /em is awake. and start casting a spell on him to make him react. I kept telling him, the most important thing is to isolate my attack and stay calm.

My training involved a PLD friend taking me to Ruby quadav and making me sleep/nuke it. If I got into trouble he'd save me. I was a party RDM myself and had no clue about kiting and sleep/nuking anything.

It is a fact that noobs have more fun in FFXI than any person in the game. Please, support your local noobs.
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