Soo... Diablo 3 Anyone?

I'd say you're regarding LAN parties in the same light as someone who regards FFVII as the best FF. Nostalgia goggles, etc.

Not that there's anything wrong with remembering good times. I just think a rational person should be able to put aside emotion and view something objectively for all its faults, and the realization that alternatives that may not shine of yesterday are actually equally effective tools (or games) that might even have greater capacity for enjoyment.

nope.

the "alternative" of being required to be online 100% of the time for a game that isn't an MMO is silly. As for the lan parties: while people who don't live in rural areas may all have constant high speed internet those who do live in rural areas don't, not to mention that not everyone enjoys/has access to "vent".

Some people don't like companies butchering what used to be great because they don't want people pirating.

(the top two people I know who played Blizzard software don't have stable internet etc).

As for the FF7/8(/9,X), it's not nostalgia when I replay them, new FF titles aren't made of the same quality, we know why too, doesn't mean we have to like it).

tl;dr

nope

how were they an incredibly stupid idea? what are the "cheaper/less stressful alternatives?"

(and as a point: I didn't start that derail)

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hmm.

not everyone has, or had internet, much less high speed internet then, and yes for games that were "lan party" favs pretty much required it, so again how?

Food is negligible, gas didn't cost that much then.

your last point can happen even online... but you could always make sure you're prepared ahead of time, or have extra equipment, it's not like it costs a lot...

ftfy

I don't agree with restrictive DRM that hurts other players due to the company failing to change their business model properly.

No good comes from DRM, short of hackers gaining more skills.

It also prevents people who don't have a stable connection from playing who would be customers, like me.

Emergency maintenance's on atop of emergency maintenance's...this ***is starting to remind me of FFXI already and i havent even got a chance to log on <_>

lol Caelestis i though the same thing.

Does anyone have a spare guest pass? Apparently only comes with physical copies of the game...a friend is looking to try it out.

I can give you a pass code if you want Feisei, noone in my LS/anyone i know irl wants to try Diablo 3, so if you want me to give one away, i can np, let me know

and they would need less servers if they let people play offline, and I don't quite get what you're getting at with the rest of this.

I somehow doubt that.

as for the other comment: there's a thing called innovation, companies forget this.

also: pirating doesn't hurt their pockets, if they want to prevent pirates from selling items, that's easy, if they want to prevent pirating: well they can't, it's not possible, this will soon be cracked and I'll pirate it when I can because I refuse to buy a broken game. Then I'll lan with my friends on a private server.

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Precisely. If you want to play on BNet, you have to buy the game. This is no different from every other bnet game they've ever released. Stripping offline mode from the game is roughly equivalent to stripping piracy mode.

Yeah, people are gonna hack it. Yeah, there's gonna be another bnetd. But this is no different than how it always used to be. You're paying to play on bnet, not for the data that costs them pennies to send you.

If your excuse for piracy is that they're forcing you to play online, find a better excuse because that's pathetic. "I don't have money" is at least valid reasoning.

not giving them my money is a good reason, since I don't like what they're doing, it's a matter of principle.


no people who pirate do not hurt the companies they pirate, if they didn't pirate they wouldn't buy the software...

actually they should be selling games for less, there's very few games that are worth $60, but yet they keep trying to sell crap for the same price as gold, and wonder why they don't sell, as for the games that are worth it, make them in parts, sell each one.

eliminate the want for piracy by lowering the price and you'll end most piracy, not by trying to enforce draconian DRM that only hurts the average player.

Hi, i like D3.

To an extent, I agree. I don't think minecraft would have sold the millions it has if it was more than $20.

On the other hand, it also looks like a $20 game (perhaps you could argue less if you think D3 is a $20 game, that would put minecraft at say, $5?). The point is, a lot more effort and polish went into D3 so shouldn't it cost more?

And people still pirate minecraft. It's a mindset of entitlement. Even if things cost 99 cents, there are people who will steal it. Even if D3 cost $500, there are people who would buy it. I don't think $60 is off by a very large margin.

moar D3 loving less w/e your talking about! How bout them servers? Just like the good ole days of FFXI!

games don't take more resources to make, most take less as they are all flash and no substance, or just rehashes of the last several games (cod anyone?) and successful at it too...

random game from movie that just came out (like Iron Man) vs a game that took years to produce (Gears 3) are sold at or near the same price point... this makes no sense.

They expect to sell consoles at a loss and make it up in game sells and wonder why the games won't sell, it's not because of pirates it's because most games cost too much.

Microsoft with their bundle that's been talked about recently (not sure if they announced it yet) has been the first apparent change in this model in years...

The majority of the people who pirate constantly wouldn't buy the games they pirate, it's silly to think they would. Most don't pirate, this is like arguing hollywood isn't making money because people are pirating movies, yet they just had another billion dollar hit.

people are poor, the cheaper it is the more people will buy it, take the Raspberry Pi for instance (it's harder but a related note) it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is if it weren't under $40.

It's also why free to play MMO's are profitable, it's no wonder Zynga has become one of the world's profitable gaming industry.

Point is, crap like this and pirates will just pirate more, as a point of pride now, companies are shooting themselves in the foot.

All I'll say is support the company by purchasing their game, pirate if you dont give two cents about it.

would have bought it, now I'm going to pirate it, is the point.

they lost a potential paying customer due to their incompetence.

If by your very definition, pirates are people who wouldn't have paid anyway, how is it possible for a company to shoot themselves in the foot in regards to this matter at all? You're contradicting yourself.

If DRM gives you a sense of satisfaction that not only is piracy OK, but you're "sticking it to the man", I repeat: Your excuse for piracy is ***. It's manufactured and contrived, and by your very own logic, you would have pirated it anyway, so who gives a *** what your reasoning is? Like I said, far better and humbler excuses exist for not paying for something. Use one of those so you don't appear to be an entitled jackass.