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what endgame event for dragoon
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-03-13 17:09:09
Yotevol said: Btw- you should add THF as one of the sub jobs. SATA Wheeling Thrust <3 ~Yote Fix'd SA only guarantees the first hit to land (critically). A vast majority of polearm weapon skills are multi-hit and bonuses like Hasso, Meditate, Berserk, Double Attack, Store TP, Warcry, etc. are more beneficial imo.
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By Garuda.Kaindragoon 2009-03-13 17:35:07
thats what i was thinking artemicion!
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By Ramuh.Ardath 2009-03-13 17:53:29
DRG is an awesome job that no one wants to bring as a DD to any type of event, unless it is killing birds in a TP burn merit party. This is due to NIN job having shadows. I have found that only uber DRG's that have merited and hold good gear that are making any progress end game.
I play DRG the majority of the time and love it. If you can find another DRG to duo with it is even better. The things you can kill will amaze you, and broaden your horizen when it comes getting stuff done with out a group.
DRG/RDM-WHM is where you will have your most fun and luck. Once you have obtained your AF helm, healing breath's will come at 50% HP, making you harder than hell to kill, not imposible, but less likely to die.
As gear choices come around 70-75, your options are limited. I play with the Barone gear (Which most people will tell you is crap, but I disagree). Stick with pieces that gain TP and ATTK+. You can get some Dex gear if you wish to help out with penta thrust, but I would stick to attk and str + items.
When you can afford it, start getting Haste gear setup. Wahlhara cap, dusk hand and feet etc...(Swift or Speed belt, if you can get it) Because untill you get Sea, Nyzul, Zeni, you wont have the uber DRG gear.
I could go on, but I can feel the flames burning already, but I would say stick with it, get RDM,SAM,WHM,BLU,WAR subs to 37, and merit your *** off. DRG is a great fun job that can bring whole lots of pain to the table.
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By Ramuh.Ardath 2009-03-13 17:56:26
Kaindragoon said: kk, i appreciate all the advice i can see where most of its going, DRG can work, but best 2 get a second job up there, kk.
as for subjobs, im actually working on getting all viable subs for drg to 37+: war, sam, nin, blu, rdm, and whm.
as far as gear goes, im trying my damnedest to not be one of those lolDrgs i hear so much about, ive never gotten any negitive comments on my gear, or my usage of moves. i dread someone saying to me lolDrg, so i strive for excellence! right now im working on getting enough gil for chivilous chain, tabin boots+1, and arment mantle+1 before i even consider doing lb3!
as for getting to 75, im in a static party, where one of my other team members is taking a hiatus to lvl his scythe skill and another to level her subjob, but once we are ready, i can see 65 happening in a week, and 70 in about a month. after i hit 75, i plan on fully meriting before i even attempt an endgame ls, but yes, thanks for all the advice, ill will take something from all of it! lolDRG came before they changed our 2hr, never seen a loldrg.
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2009-03-13 18:00:57
start with sky, that way you can grab the best ws gears for drg imo heca body hands and feet will give you much greater returns on drg than the relic will. and the biggest + is your ws wont suck quite as bad...... damn drg acc >.<;
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By Ramuh.Ardath 2009-03-13 18:06:15
Moondaddy said: start with sky, that way you can grab the best ws gears for drg imo heca body hands and feet will give you much greater returns on drg than the relic will. and the biggest + is your ws wont suck quite as bad...... damn drg acc >.<; Heca blow bums nuts IMO, with DPS on two hand weapon as high as it is, any +Slow gear will not help in the least. Sure you will have more attack, but I would rather hit more often for more DoT than hit harder for less DoT.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-03-13 18:10:02
Ardath said: Heca blow bums nuts IMO, with DPS on two hand weapon as high as it is, any +Slow gear will not help in the least. Sure you will have more attack, but I would rather hit more often for more DoT than hit harder for less DoT. ^Noob. Not even going to grace that with an intelligent response. Moondaddy said: damn drg acc >.<; ^Also noob. DRG has the highest melee ACC of any job.
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 18:10:33
drg is just as powerful with right merits and gear and player knowledge as a sam. + with merited deep breathing and capped Wyvern HP gear can have awesome back up healer without losing a DD. Id choose drg for any event EG or nyzule... crazy healing a drg can do with body boost... + Ancient circle... but anyways, I wouldnt not try be main DRG, ive seen some ppl main it for EG and they bust their butt to prepare it for EG so noone whines.. dont make my mistake and lvl a mage job :P then youll only be DRG for Nyz. or when need DD >.> even with merits and gear . . .
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-03-13 18:12:01
You know it's funny. I was a beta tester for the NA version of the PC release. And back then the level cap was 40, and there was no RoZ so rank 5 essentially was the end of the game. Back in the beta if you were able to hit level 40 (or 37, I can't remember) you were allowed to unlock their new job: Dragoon.
Of course the beta didn't last long enough for people to get the real feel for how strong DRG really was, but upon it's release, DRG was easily the strongest job available. Prior to the april TP nerf, they essentially were a one man zerg party. After that adjustment they started giving alot of DD jobs the same benefits DRG used to have until DRG became nothing special anymore. Now other classes such as samurai and warrior can do what DRG used to faster and more efficently. DRG never lost it's luster, it just got *** blocked so to speak. Hence the loldrg fad.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-03-13 18:13:40
Starstress said: drg is just as powerful with right merits and gear and player knowledge as a sam. An average SAM will always outparse an average DRG at any level. A good SAM will always outparse a good DRG at any level. A GREAT DRG will outparse a good SAM, but never a great SAM. The area that DRG excels in is solo and everyone knows it.
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By Garuda.Kaindragoon 2009-03-13 18:13:58
Ardath said: Moondaddy said: start with sky, that way you can grab the best ws gears for drg imo heca body hands and feet will give you much greater returns on drg than the relic will. and the biggest + is your ws wont suck quite as bad...... damn drg acc >.<; Heca blow bums nuts IMO, with DPS on two hand weapon as high as it is, any +Slow gear will not help in the least. Sure you will have more attack, but I would rather hit more often for more DoT than hit harder for less DoT. i do believe hecatomb gear is only used with penta-thrust not as main gear... so the slow wouldnt really apply >< also, another drg question, if you have the funds available is Zahak's mail worth it? 10+ str and dex makes me lean towards yes, but not sure if it really is, 4 million, is quite alot >< edit: guess 6 million now ><
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 18:14:28
Ardath said: Moondaddy said: start with sky, that way you can grab the best ws gears for drg imo heca body hands and feet will give you much greater returns on drg than the relic will. and the biggest + is your ws wont suck quite as bad...... damn drg acc >.<; Heca blow bums nuts IMO, with DPS on two hand weapon as high as it is, any +Slow gear will not help in the least. Sure you will have more attack, but I would rather hit more often for more DoT than hit harder for less DoT. WEAPON SKILL PENTA OR DRAKES LOL WHOD MAIN HECA... thr i said it for u Entern
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-03-13 18:16:10
Kaindragoon said: if you have the funds available is Zahak's mail worth it? I have no idea how much Zahak's Mail is worth currently, but if you have the funds, by all means, pick up Ares body and don't even give Zahak's a second glance.
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 18:17:26
its a hauby for DRG lol but still askar or Ares ur best bet :o
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By Garuda.Kaindragoon 2009-03-13 18:18:59
Enternius said: Kaindragoon said: if you have the funds available is Zahak's mail worth it? I have no idea how much Zahak's Mail is worth currently, but if you have the funds, by all means, pick up Ares body and don't even give Zahak's a second glance. but if you cant get into salvage ls easily as drg... Zahak's still a no go?
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-03-13 18:19:06
In my opinion, Zahak's Mail is a rich man's Heca body since it's best suited for WS use only. However, Ares's body would turn any DRG into a soloing machine not to mention a force to be reckoned with against the tougher stuff when fought with high level groups. I think Ares' body would be a more worthwhile investment since you'd get alot more "mileage" out of Ares' than you would with Zahak's Mail.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-03-13 18:21:11
IF you cannot get a good Salvage group, I honestly still wouldn't waste money on Zahak's Mail. If you can get it to drop from Serket in the past, go for it, but otherwise it's a waste unless you can get it for 2M or less. Ares is not THAT difficult to get and well worth the effort no matter how much you put into it.
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By Ifrit.Satabi 2009-03-13 18:22:16
Ares's is overrated. Stick with Askar for a 6-hit build on /SAM. Also, Zahak's Mail is the single best piece you can wear for Drakesbane.
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By Garuda.Kaindragoon 2009-03-13 18:23:04
so zahak's =/= nogo, kk save money for the ingots to get ares.
i like this, instead of reading a cold page filled with info i got people debating, seems much more informative!
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By Garuda.Kaindragoon 2009-03-13 18:24:21
Satabi said: Ares's is overrated. Stick with Askar for a 6-hit build on /SAM. Also, Zahak's Mail is the single best piece you can wear for Drakesbane. 6 hit drg... didnt know it was possible! awesome, i like the sounds of that!
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 18:25:00
u cN GET in salv as drg lol,, its actually kick *** in most runs :o good for Einj. too
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-03-13 18:25:44
Satabi said: Ares's is overrated. ^Coming from a DRG that does not own Ares. Full Ares set = sex for solo, body piece has STR+12 and Attack+24, the clear winner for a 50% STR modded WS. It also has Refresh, VIT+12, HP+3%, and MP+3% on it, ideal solo stats. Combine that with Ethereal Earring and you can't go wrong for solo.
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By Ifrit.Satabi 2009-03-13 18:30:56
Coming from a DRG33.
Ares's body is good for solo, yes. But Drakesbane is a crit mod WS, meaning it's only so-so if you don't crit with it. Zahak's is only 2 STR less than it, but gives +10 DEX and +3% crit rate, making it far better than Ares's for Drakesbane. Even Heca body beats Ares's for WSing in.
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 18:45:51
just tp in ares or w/e lol still worth getting, cant see any real drg who doesnt want Ares...
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By Garuda.Kaindragoon 2009-03-13 18:46:57
ares looks sexy, yes it does! lol
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 18:48:56
Kaindragoon said: ares looks sexy, yes it does! lol /nod lol
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By Ifrit.Satabi 2009-03-13 18:55:01
Askar or Aurum for 6-hit unless you have V. Fork + White Tathlum
Don't get me wrong, I'd get Ares's if the Salvage groups I join would stop dying, it's just nowhere near as useful as people say it is. Situationally good, that's all.
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By Bahamut.Illyst 2009-03-13 19:00:02
Kelia said: You count as 10 people though fataru. WHY U CALLING ME FATARU >:O
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2009-03-13 19:06:20
Illyst said: Kelia said: 15 people is low man...? Of course it's lowman! Totally lower than our group killing bosses with 4 people and a 2 box! (sarcasm included for those that don't know) asmuch as i love your sarcasm, i didnt say 15 people was low man >.>. 15 was the most amount of people we've had. we usually rarely even have 6 people and have to pull in someones alt to make the 6th to enter.
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By Asura.Starstress 2009-03-13 19:07:51
everythings situational lol.. there quite a good number of gear you can get. Its really what you are more after. Some people want more ACC lol.. some STR some DEX some HASTE cap, just up to you. DRG doesn't have much choices compare to like NIN or MNK and what we want is not easy as it seems to get XD
i know i want to do, or atleast try all the endgame events in ffxi... but as a dragoon who is slowly approaching 75 for my first time ever, i was wondering, what endgame event should i start with?
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