To me it seems like bankai doesnt really make you stronger, just gives you new techniques (unless your Ichigo) byakuya was able to take on kenpachi without using his bankai or shikai , in 1 of the filler episodes
Kenpachi was holding back... As is he is prone to doing. But it doesn't really generally augment the person so much as the swd itself
Toward the end, Ichigo's bankai wasn't as powerful. It seems like he was always in Bankai, and he was always getting his *** kicked in his Bankai lol.
He was fighting people way above his ability. Also you noticed his outfit was pretty much always all torn up and he explained how it was actually a part of his bankai so in reality he was often not at full power
I own the Escaflowne series, Spirited Away (which I really enjoy), and one or two others, but to be honest, I get a little irritated when I see 'What Anime Should I Watch Now?' threads and the like. I'm sure it's just my own bias, but is there something wrong with other television shows? Can't you just ask for other generic shows to watch? Why does it have to be anime?
I really hate anime. The blue hair and lots of sigh'ing drives me nuts. I love FFXI and have since 2003. I seem to be far from the norm here, somebody please explain to me what I'm doing wrong.
Here are some things I do like:
Guns
Sports
Running
Weight Lifting
Women
Beds with women in them
Cooking
Guns
People that aren't from Arkansas
Movies with Christopher Walken
Bailey's Irish Cream (in a shoe)
What do I need to add to this list to like anime?
Also, please rate down if you're really pissed at me for not liking anime.
There are our common interests. I hate Anime as well.. Arkansas really isn't that bad, it gets a bad wrap, my wife is from there (more or less.. She's moved around a lot) The air is clean, and there's absolutely nothing to do but get drunk/high. It's nice to remove yourself from ~normal~ life once in a while.
~Normal of course meaning paying bills, making it day to day waking up the next to start it all over again.
To me it seems like bankai doesnt really make you stronger, just gives you new techniques (unless your Ichigo) byakuya was able to take on kenpachi without using his bankai or shikai , in 1 of the filler episodes
Kenpachi was holding back... As is he is prone to doing. But it doesn't really generally augment the person so much as the swd itself
Toward the end, Ichigo's bankai wasn't as powerful. It seems like he was always in Bankai, and he was always getting his *** kicked in his Bankai lol.
He was fighting people way above his ability. Also you noticed his outfit was pretty much always all torn up and he explained how it was actually a part of his bankai so in reality he was often not at full power
True, true. Do you think Ichigo in only Bankai is stronger than Kenpachi or Byakuya?
Or do you think he needs his Hollification to beat them?
At one point during the Zanpakuto rebellion arc, Ichigo had to use his hollification to challenge Senbonzakura.
Moreover, which stage do you think Ichigo has to be in to beat the Captain commander?
I own the Escaflowne series, Spirited Away (which I really enjoy), and one or two others, but to be honest, I get a little irritated when I see 'What Anime Should I Watch Now?' threads and the like. I'm sure it's just my own bias, but is there something wrong with other television shows? Can't you just ask for other generic shows to watch? Why does it have to be anime?
Because we can ask our rl friends for normal shows. there I said it : p
protip, because I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet: Never watch English dubbed anime, it's terrible (with a few exceptions). Seeing as you've only seen Naruto and Bleach, I'm assuming you saw them on American TV.
Also, Naruto and Bleach are bad examples to base your interest in anime off of.
I think the only dubbed I liked were FMA and Ouran Highschool, but to be fair my friends showed it to me in dub, so I kinda got used to the actors more :\ Though, I've been watching brotherhood and I really don't like it too much, maybe it's because I'm used to the original or haven't watched enough of it :\
Also to be fair, Vic is a pretty decent dub actor, at least he's alright and doesn't have a shrill *** voice like Naruto, god I don't know what the *** is up with the person who voices him.
Do you think Ichigo in only Bankai is stronger than Kenpachi or Byakuya?
Or do you think he needs his Hollification to beat them?
At one point during the Zanpakuto rebellion arc, Ichigo had to use his hollification to challenge Senbonzakura.
Moreover, which stage do you think Ichigo has to be in to beat the Captain commander?
Depends... at the end there he was kinda rediculously powerful...
But outside of that I'd say possibly almost on par with byakuya. Decently under kenpachi if kenpachi ya know actually tries.
Um to beat the old man he'd need to be either that crazy long haired version of himself or maybe version 2 hollowification that he did vs #4... *** captain commander is rediculous.
Do you think Ichigo in only Bankai is stronger than Kenpachi or Byakuya?
Or do you think he needs his Hollification to beat them?
At one point during the Zanpakuto rebellion arc, Ichigo had to use his hollification to challenge Senbonzakura.
Moreover, which stage do you think Ichigo has to be in to beat the Captain commander?
Depends... at the end there he was kinda rediculously powerful...
But outside of that I'd say possibly almost on par with byakuya. Decently under kenpachi if kenpachi ya know actually tries.
Um to beat the old man he'd need to be either that crazy long haired version of himself or maybe version 2 hollowification that he did vs #4... *** captain commander is rediculous.
Are you talking about the Hollowfication (wow I was spelling this wrong lol) he beat Ulquiora in?
If he's in his full evolution as the "Final Getsuga," can't he literally rape the captain commander with his pinky? lol
I mean, I think he could destroy the captain commander even when his right hand was molded to his Zanpakuto.
Or is that old man really that strong? lol
I'm just trying to put everyone on a powerscale here...
Wish there was a graph or chart or something of everyones powerlevels really lol
Are you talking about the Hollowfication (wow I was spelling this wrong lol) he beat Ulquiora in?
If he's in his full evolution as the "Final Getsuga," can't he literally rape the captain commander with his pinky? lol
I mean, I think he could destroy the captain commander even when his right hand was molded to his Zanpakuto. Or is that old man really that strong? lol
I'm just trying to put everyone on a powerscale here... Wish there was a graph or chart or something of everyones powerlevels really lol
Yeah.. thats what I meant.
And yeah that's what I meant about him having longer hair at the end. I mean he was completely pwning a fully evolved Aizen without even trying. Like just stand there kinda lazily swing then take some hits and do it again. But not sure if it was even sustainable or if it was some side effect of the training or maybe some preform of the final getsuga
Also kinda hard to gage captain commander completely. He never really uses all his power and was pretty weakened before he started trying. But I think the fact that Aizen was actually afraid of him and what he could do says volumes as is the fact that in the 1000 or so years he has been captain commander no one has been able to replace him despite him now losing his arm
Are you talking about the Hollowfication (wow I was spelling this wrong lol) he beat Ulquiora in?
If he's in his full evolution as the "Final Getsuga," can't he literally rape the captain commander with his pinky? lol
I mean, I think he could destroy the captain commander even when his right hand was molded to his Zanpakuto.
Or is that old man really that strong? lol
I'm just trying to put everyone on a powerscale here...
Wish there was a graph or chart or something of everyones powerlevels really lol
I think the version he beat Ulquiora with wouldn't defeat the captain commander. We didnt even see him past shikai remember and he was still far above Aizen's shikai. Aizen had to seal it just to even attempt the fight. nvm bankai
MMMmmmm, your right...
I wonder how strong that old man is...
But without a doubt Ichigo as the Final Getsuga is the strongest of them all but I'm just wondering, how many times stronger in his final form is Ichigo than that old man, or hell in a smaller perspective how many times stronger is he than Byakuya and Kenpachi?
I will totally cyber the person who finds me that webcomic parody of a Japanese guy being obsessed with American cartoons.
Who do you think came up with the idea for Kingdom Hearts?
What does that have to do with anything? I enjoyed those games, but I don't see how you could have known that unless you have read some post I don't remember making.
I have zero issues with anime itself, it's just the fanaticism surrounding it.
I don't get it. I try to, but I don't.
This is a thread about not liking anime. I'm just trying to let the OP know that he's not alone.
I think the version he beat Ulquiora with wouldn't defeat the captain commander. We didnt even see him past shikai remember and he was still far above Aizen's shikai. Aizen had to seal it just to even attempt the fight. nvm bankai
Hard to scale really. I mean that form he completely owned Ulquiora and you could assume he would probably own any of the espada which puts it miles ahead of any of the other captains... but captain commander never fought any of them so hard to really gage how easily he could beat them. And really he owned Ulquiora so hard its really hard to gage just how more powerful he was.
It's like a lvl 90 one shotting a lvl 10 mob... you know the power difference is big but can't really tell how big cause a lvl 50 could do it too.
Also perhaps he doesn't have a bankai!?! Or can't/wont use it
Seriously though, anime is not a genre. Sure, there's some prevalent (and creepy) tropes that leaks into most things Japanese, but it's like saying one hates all movies because they were forced to watch Ed Wood movies as a child.
I really hate anime. The blue hair and lots of sigh'ing drives me nuts. I love FFXI and have since 2003. I seem to be far from the norm here, somebody please explain to me what I'm doing wrong.
Here are some things I do like:
Guns
Sports
Running
Weight Lifting
Women
Beds with women in them
Cooking
Dogs
Guns
People that aren't from Arkansas
Movies with Christopher Walken
Bailey's Irish Cream (in a shoe)
What do I need to add to this list to like anime?
Also, please rate down if you're really pissed at me for not liking anime.
well unfortunately you are a preform weeaboo
soon you will give in to nosenbsical babling robot girls in highschool for no reason when everything can and should be downloaded in their heads...
if I had to guess in numbers, I would say ichigo Bankai was 50, hollowfied 100 and final Ulq was 250. Ichihollow v2 500 and aizens would normally be like 1000. then captain commander 2000, Aizen fully v3 4000, ichigo final like 12000.
That looks pretty damn good to me, about the same I would have it in, but when you say Ichigo v2 500 do you mean when his was fused with his sword?
Because arguably I think he was already stronger then the captain commander at that point and definitely stronger than butterfly Aizen. Also when Aizen gained his final form the anime makes it seem like he wasn't even stronger than Ichigo with his fused sword. Although, since Ichigo transformed I'm assuming Aizen was stronger. BUT then again Ichigo just wanted to end it with one blow, so Ichigo mag have just rushed into things with full force instead of fighting it out.
Like I'm saying it's really hard to make comparisions out of the void. There is no real fighting between people of close enough power to really get even semi accurate feel for the comparative power lvl
I meant the version that beat ulq was 500, which I doubt couldof beat the captain commander at full power. and Aizen normally with shikai couldof easily beat him but couldnt beat the commander normally at all
Yeah I caught it after I typed it. I'm typing on my iPhone now which is why I'm typing *** slow and with a bunch of autocorrect mistakes. Anyway, do you think Ichigo needed to transform there at the end to fight Aizen? Honestly, I think he could have whooped his *** with the form where his right hand was fused to his sword.
I really hate anime. The blue hair and lots of sigh'ing drives me nuts. I love FFXI and have since 2003. I seem to be far from the norm here, somebody please explain to me what I'm doing wrong.
Here are some things I do like:
Guns
Sports
Running
Weight Lifting
Women
Beds with women in them
Cooking
Dogs
Guns
People that aren't from Arkansas
Movies with Christopher Walken
Bailey's Irish Cream (in a shoe)
What do I need to add to this list to like anime?
Also, please rate down if you're really pissed at me for not liking anime.